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with Traktor- How are the 'cue points/grid' and 'Mp3 file' linked in the file system?
Posted on: 22.05.2013 by Kacy Wehrmeyer
with Traktor - How are the 'cue points/grids' and 'Mp3 file' linked in the computer file system?

If i rearrange my track collection on another computer by copying the files..

and send the mp3 back to my laptop, by overwriting the mp3 files with identical named mp3 files, will they still have cue points and tempo grids?

What links the cue points etc and the mp3

Is it recognition of the mp3 file?
recognition of the mp3 file location or name?
or nothing once its overwritten I have to set up cues again?

how does it work?

Cheers
Albertina Fay
22.05.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Touch
Doreen Schurle
22.05.2013		Touch
Albertina Fay
22.05.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Touch
Doreen Schurle
22.05.2013		Touch
Albertina Fay
22.05.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Touch
Doreen Schurle
22.05.2013		Touch
Albertina Fay
22.05.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Touch
Doreen Schurle
22.05.2013		Touch
Albertina Fay
22.05.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Touch
Doreen Schurle
22.05.2013		Touch
Albertina Fay
22.05.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
Ok, enabling Analysis lock allows the cuepoints to be saved to the MP3, they came up on my laptop after locking beforehand.
Albertina Fay
22.05.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
Tested the file you sent, and unlike the MP3 file I copied across between my computers, yours had cuepoints saved within the MP3.

Was there anything specific you did to get them to save? Were they prepped in an older Traktor version?


Will try this now.
Nope. It was prepped in 2.6.1..

I just make sure it has the little lock on the file in Traktor. I don't do anything special. The latest version of Traktor (2.6.1) will re-analyse your file when bringing it in to Traktor if it does not have the lock.

was the beatgrid set?
Alphonso Deitchman
22.05.2013
Originally Posted by papo
sent. let me know once you load it in Traktor.
Tested the file you sent, and unlike the MP3 file I copied across between my computers, yours had cuepoints saved within the MP3.

Was there anything specific you did to get them to save? Were they prepped in an older Traktor version?

Originally Posted by papo
Did you have the "Analysis Lock" on the file?
Will try this now.
Albertina Fay
22.05.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
Just tested copying an MP3 from my desktop to my laptop, the cue points were not preserved.
Did you have the "Analysis Lock" on the file?
Albertina Fay
22.05.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
I'm not sure that's actually true anymore... Traktor - as far as I know - stopped writing into the tags some time between Traktor 3 and TP2, not sure when exactly.
Originally Posted by papo
Let's test it. I'll send you one of my prepped tracks and you can load into Traktor on your computer. You should see the cuepoints,loops and beatgrid set.

I'll PM you a dropbox link to a song in a few minutes.
sent. let me know once you load it in Traktor.
Albertina Fay
22.05.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
I'm not sure that's actually true anymore... Traktor - as far as I know - stopped writing into the tags some time between Traktor 3 and TP2, not sure when exactly.
Let's test it. I'll send you one of my prepped tracks and you can load into Traktor on your computer. You should see the cuepoints,loops and beatgrid set.

I'll PM you a dropbox link to a song in a few minutes.
Kacy Wehrmeyer
22.05.2013		with Traktor - How are the 'cue points/grids' and 'Mp3 file' linked in the computer file system?

If i rearrange my track collection on another computer by copying the files..

and send the mp3 back to my laptop, by overwriting the mp3 files with identical named mp3 files, will they still have cue points and tempo grids?

What links the cue points etc and the mp3

Is it recognition of the mp3 file?
recognition of the mp3 file location or name?
or nothing once its overwritten I have to set up cues again?

how does it work?

Cheers
Albertina Fay
22.05.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Touch
Doreen Schurle
22.05.2013		Touch
Albertina Fay
22.05.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
Ok, enabling Analysis lock allows the cuepoints to be saved to the MP3, they came up on my laptop after locking beforehand.
Alphonso Deitchman
22.05.2013		Ok, enabling Analysis lock allows the cuepoints to be saved to the MP3, they came up on my laptop after locking beforehand.
Albertina Fay
22.05.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
Tested the file you sent, and unlike the MP3 file I copied across between my computers, yours had cuepoints saved within the MP3.

Was there anything specific you did to get them to save? Were they prepped in an older Traktor version?


Will try this now.
Nope. It was prepped in 2.6.1..

I just make sure it has the little lock on the file in Traktor. I don't do anything special. The latest version of Traktor (2.6.1) will re-analyse your file when bringing it in to Traktor if it does not have the lock.

was the beatgrid set?
Alphonso Deitchman
22.05.2013
Originally Posted by papo
sent. let me know once you load it in Traktor.
Tested the file you sent, and unlike the MP3 file I copied across between my computers, yours had cuepoints saved within the MP3.

Was there anything specific you did to get them to save? Were they prepped in an older Traktor version?

Originally Posted by papo
Did you have the "Analysis Lock" on the file?
Will try this now.
Albertina Fay
22.05.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
Just tested copying an MP3 from my desktop to my laptop, the cue points were not preserved.
Did you have the "Analysis Lock" on the file?
Alphonso Deitchman
22.05.2013		Just tested copying an MP3 from my desktop to my laptop, the cue points were not preserved.
Albertina Fay
22.05.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
I'm not sure that's actually true anymore... Traktor - as far as I know - stopped writing into the tags some time between Traktor 3 and TP2, not sure when exactly.
Originally Posted by papo
Let's test it. I'll send you one of my prepped tracks and you can load into Traktor on your computer. You should see the cuepoints,loops and beatgrid set.

I'll PM you a dropbox link to a song in a few minutes.
sent. let me know once you load it in Traktor.
Alphonso Deitchman
22.05.2013		Traktor still modifies the ID3 tag of every file you load, and any changes you make (e.g. adding a cue point) will cause the MP3 file to be modified.
Albertina Fay
22.05.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
I'm not sure that's actually true anymore... Traktor - as far as I know - stopped writing into the tags some time between Traktor 3 and TP2, not sure when exactly.
Let's test it. I'll send you one of my prepped tracks and you can load into Traktor on your computer. You should see the cuepoints,loops and beatgrid set.

I'll PM you a dropbox link to a song in a few minutes.
Doreen Schurle
22.05.2013		I'm not sure that's actually true anymore... Traktor - as far as I know - stopped writing into the tags some time between Traktor 3 and TP2, not sure when exactly.
Kacy Wehrmeyer
22.05.2013		Cheers bud
Albertina Fay
22.05.2013		it is embedded within the files' ID3 tags. You can rename that track and move to it to another computer. it will still have the cuepoints and beatgrid. just make sure you put the "analysis lock" on the track.

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