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Nox 606 traktor setup
Posted on: 24.05.2013 by Dia Vanhoudt
hi guy
im new to traktor software and i just got a behringer nox 606, but i cant get the mixer to work with traktor.
i have a 6 channel usb soundcard working fine with traktor,
on the initial setup it mention behringer but does not have nox 606

any sugestions ?
Nana Mohs
26.05.2013
Originally Posted by nem0nic
Why would you pair my CMD controllers with an analog mixer? This isn't a typical use case at all....?
WHAAAAAT?! You must have forgotten you're on djranking s. We love modular controllers with analogue mixers here!

Personally, I shy away from mixers with dedicated soundcards for the portability issue, so the Nox606 would probably be perfect for me. I don't believe the product page was too misleading (then again I asked about the soundcard when I was mixer shopping) considering most mixers with a built in dj'ing interface make it very clear that it is for DJing (list spec's, number of i/o's etc)
Leon Albornoz
27.05.2013
By the way, I tried the NOX606 a few times, and it's THE BEST for it's price. I mean, you can't beat it for 260€ brand new. 4 Band EQ's, FX sends and returns, onboard FX, a good layout, filters like xone 92... it's really good.

Sound quality wise it's "ok". I mean, for 260€ you can't expect that "hot" sound from an Allen Heath, but it's pretty good for it's price.

For mixers in this price range, it has better sound quality than Reloop RMX40 and Behringer DDM4000.

Midi onboard wise, it's useless.
Leon Albornoz
27.05.2013
What sort of beginner buys a full 4 channel with 4 band EQ mixer?
Annalisa Shogren
26.05.2013
Yeah, I've always thought that. Proper EQ knobs on them and effects, would prefer it over a Xone 92 to be honest!
Latoria Kavulich
26.05.2013
I'd be happy to jam out on one of these Nox mixers. They look sweet
Diogo Dj Dragão
26.05.2013
WHAAAAAT?! You must have forgotten you're on djranking s. We love modular controllers with analogue mixers and an external multi-in/out soundcard here!
Fixed that for you.

I don't believe the product page was too misleading (then again I asked about the soundcard when I was mixer shopping) considering most mixers with a built in dj'ing interface make it very clear that it is for DJing (list spec's, number of i/o's etc)
Not only that, they make it clear that it works with a specific software bundle. As in "Traktor Certified".
Nana Mohs
26.05.2013
Originally Posted by nem0nic
Why would you pair my CMD controllers with an analog mixer? This isn't a typical use case at all....?
WHAAAAAT?! You must have forgotten you're on djranking s. We love modular controllers with analogue mixers here!

Personally, I shy away from mixers with dedicated soundcards for the portability issue, so the Nox606 would probably be perfect for me. I don't believe the product page was too misleading (then again I asked about the soundcard when I was mixer shopping) considering most mixers with a built in dj'ing interface make it very clear that it is for DJing (list spec's, number of i/o's etc)
Diogo Dj Dragão
26.05.2013
Like pairing with your CMD controllers for example?
Why would you pair my CMD controllers with an analog mixer? This isn't a typical use case at all. You're either going to be using your software in internal mixing mode and have no mixer, or you're going to run in external mixing mode and use an external soundcard and NOT the one built into the NOX mixer (because again, the NOX audio interface is a single channel).

The product page suggests that the NOX is capable of mixing music directly from a computer; how are you supposed to do this with 1 channel and no tempo control, or any hardware control whatsoever?
See, this is the key assumption you're making and it's completely wrong. The use of a DJ mixer assumes that you're going to attach sound sources (because that's what they've always been for). Your sound sources will have the features you're incorrectly attributing to the mixer (like tempo control, etc). You're also making the assumption that no one will ever use a DJ mixer and not beat mix. This is also incorrect. As I said before, it's commonplace for a mobile jock to use a separate app (or even a separate computer) to play back music for non-dancing portions of their gigs (like the dinner service at a wedding reception or corporate event).

There have been one or two users on this very community that bought your NOX mixers, then posted asking how to get it working without owning a separate audio interface.
And those users must have done absolutely no research before making that incorrect assumption. Do you believe Ford has to warn their users that just because the car has cruise control does not mean that the car will drive itself?
Brunilda Kora
26.05.2013
Originally Posted by Era 7
next time you buy, do some more research.
It all boils down to that.

Originally Posted by makar1
What do you believe a beginner could construe from this paragraph on the NOX 606 page?

But unlike the DJ mixers of yesteryear, NOX Series mixers include USB connectivity so you can access your MP3 library or digitize your own creative mix, directly via your computer.
If a beginner doesn't know what "access your library", or "digitize your own creative mix" means, then they should do some more reading before spending ANY money.
Tesha Freudenstein
26.05.2013
well the 606 is just a xone 92 clone after all...kind of a giveaway.

next time you buy, do some more research.
Alphonso Deitchman
26.05.2013
I believe we are all now aware of what the NOX 606 is capable of. I have never assumed that the sound card is for DVS operation, and there are of course uses for sound cards beyond DVS. Like pairing with your CMD controllers for example?

The product page suggests that the NOX is capable of mixing music directly from a computer; how are you supposed to do this with 1 channel and no tempo control, or any hardware control whatsoever?
There have been one or two users on this very community that bought your NOX mixers, then posted asking how to get it working without owning a separate audio interface.

The fact that the mixer is analogue does not directly affect its functionality, but it is something the consumer should be aware of before buying the product. The extremely limited MIDI control of the NOX is also something that should be made clear on the product page. The Scratchworx review of the TTM57SL seems to suggest that it is in fact a digital mixer, as you'd expect from something containing a proper usable sound card and full MIDI control.

I know full well that Behringer likes to bend the facts on its product pages in an attempt to get more sales through unsuspecting buyers who may not be aware of what to look for - or in this case investigate and dig for.
Diogo Dj Dragão
25.05.2013
The website for the NOX 606 could easily mislead a beginner into believeing it's all they need to mix their MP3 files.
If that beginner didn't bother doing any research at all into what they were purchasing, what software they were using, and how DJing in general works. The NOX606 doesn't misrepresent in any way the capabilities of the mixer in the product page (or anywhere else).

LOTS of mixers have single channel audio interfaces in them. While your assumption might be that this is for DVS operation, that would be a false assumption. First, it's a single stereo channel in and out, which isn't suitable for DVS. Second (and more importantly), the 2 most popular DVS packages only open up DVS operation when their own hardware is connected. There are a few cases where a 3rd party product can be certified to work in the host application as well, and those cases are explicitly defined by both the hardware and software developers.

The intended use of a USB audio interface like those found on the NOX mixers would be for recording to, or playing back from a computer. This includes digitizing records, recording mix sets, playing music from a computer (as a mobile jock might do during a dinner service, or even playing mixes from a production software like Ableton Live), or connecting an iOS device.

It certainly wouldn't hurt to mention the word "analogue" at least once on the product page (or the manual!) as it turns out to be an analogue mixer. Instead, the word "digital" appears 5 times.
I don't understand what the point would be. The fact that the mixer is either analog or digital does not IN ANY WAY increase or decrease the mixer's capabilities in relation to the software being used. There are analog mixers out there with digital audio interfaces (like the TTM57Sl), and digital mixers in the market with no audio interface at all (like the DJM-700). Both of those mixers are also capable of MIDI.

As always, this boils down to the user spending a few minutes figuring out what they want, and researching the right products to fit the bill.
Dia Vanhoudt
25.05.2013
now my battle goes to routing my soundcard channels to the proper decks
im using a 6.1 usb soundcard
any thoughts on how the routing should be made?
Dia Vanhoudt
25.05.2013
i figured it out

was stuck on not knowing the dif between midi controller and anolog mixer
cheer for the help
Kellie Myrum
25.05.2013
^Product manager he is!
Latoria Kavulich
25.05.2013
nemOnic may be able to help you with this, i believe he works for Behringer.
Dia Vanhoudt
25.05.2013
But is it possile to use nox features with traktor then? ie: crossfader

i thought by connecting the usb cable from mixer to pc that traktor could recognize some of the mixer features

and where do i learn how to map the nox functions with traktor, i dont mind of assigning every knob, but it wuld help to know how

my previous setup was still my pc/6ch soud card and a mixtrack.

sorry for my ignorance, by ive searched a bit and havent figured it out yet
Alphonso Deitchman
25.05.2013
What do you believe a beginner could construe from this paragraph on the NOX 606 page?

But unlike the DJ mixers of yesteryear, NOX Series mixers include USB connectivity so you can access your MP3 library or digitize your own creative mix, directly via your computer.
Latoria Kavulich
25.05.2013
I don't see anything on the product page that makes me believe this mixer is anything other than what it is advertised as. The onus is on the customer to properly research before a purchase as well.
Alphonso Deitchman
25.05.2013
It certainly wouldn't hurt to mention the word "analogue" at least once on the product page (or the manual!) as it turns out to be an analogue mixer. Instead, the word "digital" appears 5 times.
Shawn Vanhaitsma
25.05.2013
Agree at first glance I thought it was a digital mixer at first, then at deeper delving, found it has some pretty goofy useless features heh. Woo route an ipod for the win!
Alphonso Deitchman
25.05.2013
The website for the NOX 606 could easily mislead a beginner into believeing it's all they need to mix their MP3 files. It doesn't have full MIDI control either; rather unsurprisingly it has the exact same MIDI functions as the Xone 92 outlined here.
Brunilda Kora
25.05.2013
Mixers do work out the box - but you have to understand the difference between audio and midi.

There's an assumption that anything with a USB connection is plug n' play.
Shawn Vanhaitsma
25.05.2013
Like most purchasers, I believe people expect the "contrlller/mixer" etc to work out of the box as intended and not have to map it? Generations keep getting lazier heh
Diogo Dj Dragão
24.05.2013
The NOX606 is an analog mixer. What are you trying to do with it and Traktor? If you're running your setup in a typical "DVS Mode", it should wire up normally.
Alphonso Deitchman
24.05.2013
I'm guessing from the digital FX and MIDI that the Nox is digital rather than analogue.

You could use the MIDI output of the mixer to map it to Traktor, but it would make more sense to simply route the outputs of your sound card directly into the mixer.
Latoria Kavulich
24.05.2013
It's an analog mixer, so you will need to use that soundcard to use it with traktor, in external mode. That mixer is neither a midi controller nor does it have a soundcard suitable for traktor use.

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