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Making a bigish order. Best way to go about it?
Posted on: 16.06.2013 by Milda Poucher
Hey people,

Don't know if this has been covered elsewhere. Basically I'm wanting to order about
Milda Poucher
22.06.2013		Update on this.

So rang up DV today wanting to just order the monitor speakers, cables and 2 decksaver covers. They asked why I was no longer ordering the CDJ and DJM and I said I have seen it on a French site for cheaper + I can get cashback. They matched the site price and took off the cashback which was 4%. Saved
Milda Poucher
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by Big Panda
I have had only good experiences with DV and 4 years warranty is great. I know
Ara Tima
23.06.2013
Originally Posted by chromatome
12% profit in electronics is not a bad margin at all for a retailer...

Call around. For a 4k sale, almost any brick and mortar store will do something to help out and should be willing to throw in their house-brand cables for free. Retail isn't about margins, it's about turnover!
I realise between the US/Europe and Australia stuff can be a bit different but for people in Aus...

I work for a consumer electronics distributor who supplies to a major major major australian electronics/cd/everything retailer. I can tell you for a fact they're taking at least triple that.. at a minimum.

So yeah, if you're in Australia. Haggle haggle haggle. They have lots of room. Our retail/wholesale etc markups are astronomical compared to the US.
Shawn Vanhaitsma
23.06.2013
Originally Posted by slinkydisc
I am actually in Oz.
That explains it then. The Wicked Witch and her fiendish boardroom of Wheel wielding monkeys really drive prices up
Bryon Taglieri
23.06.2013
Originally Posted by balakoth
Sounds like they dont like to give discounts over there across the pond huh? Whats the vat like on items too?

That really sucks.. I just purcahsed two CDJ 2000 Nexus from Muscians friend along with a reflection shield two days ago; called and got 750 off the order (And since i live in Virginia no sales tax)

Least ya got something though I suppose right?
I am actually in Oz.
Shawn Vanhaitsma
23.06.2013
Originally Posted by slinkydisc
I use to work in sales and tech work in retail and the best trick to bargaining on price is to know exactly what you want and have a good idea of what the price is possible i.e what online shops in your region can do. If the sales person believes its going to be a quick easy sale and they know your price driven you will always get a good price. Buy in your region as a warranty can be a massive pain if the product is not from your region. Also if they seem disinterested in the sale just believe what they be like if you have problems in the future don't be afraid to work if you don't like the services you are getting.
Sounds like they dont like to give discounts over there across the pond huh? Whats the vat like on items too?

That really sucks.. I just purcahsed two CDJ 2000 Nexus from Muscians friend along with a reflection shield two days ago; called and got 750 off the order (And since i live in Virginia no sales tax)

Least ya got something though I suppose right?
Milda Poucher
22.06.2013		Update on this.

So rang up DV today wanting to just order the monitor speakers, cables and 2 decksaver covers. They asked why I was no longer ordering the CDJ and DJM and I said I have seen it on a French site for cheaper + I can get cashback. They matched the site price and took off the cashback which was 4%. Saved
Addie Engbrecht
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by Dustin V
Who would you recommend? From my personal experience, Guitar Center, and Musicians Friend have been the best.

I went into GC, a while back, and bought a S4, X1, Audio 2, and some audio cables. At check out I asked the cashier if he could throw in a discount, so he gave me the Audio 2 for free! That was a $99 bonus! Very happy camper!
That's a hell of a discount. Good ish.

Pro Audio Star and AGIProDJ if you're looking to order a bunch of stuff for a considerable price. Sweetwater doesn't have the best prices, but to me, no one beats them when it comes to all the other intangibles (making sure ish was ordered n processed correctly, actually having knowledgable people, communication, free fast shipping, they ship every order w/ a bunch of candy )
Milda Poucher
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by Big Panda
I have had only good experiences with DV and 4 years warranty is great. I know
Candy Vardy
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by manchild
I was looking to spend about that much at one time as well. I e-mailed different stores and saw what prices they could give me. I was able to get a considerable amount knocked off (like $700 off the total order), and I even got an innofader thrown in for free on my order. Ask around. Wish I could recommend some dealers, but I'm in the states
Who would you recommend? From my personal experience, Guitar Center, and Musicians Friend have been the best.

I went into GC, a while back, and bought a S4, X1, Audio 2, and some audio cables. At check out I asked the cashier if he could throw in a discount, so he gave me the Audio 2 for free! That was a $99 bonus! Very happy camper!
Ara Tima
23.06.2013
Originally Posted by chromatome
12% profit in electronics is not a bad margin at all for a retailer...

Call around. For a 4k sale, almost any brick and mortar store will do something to help out and should be willing to throw in their house-brand cables for free. Retail isn't about margins, it's about turnover!
I realise between the US/Europe and Australia stuff can be a bit different but for people in Aus...

I work for a consumer electronics distributor who supplies to a major major major australian electronics/cd/everything retailer. I can tell you for a fact they're taking at least triple that.. at a minimum.

So yeah, if you're in Australia. Haggle haggle haggle. They have lots of room. Our retail/wholesale etc markups are astronomical compared to the US.
Gaynell Rydberg
23.06.2013		They got kangaroos and koalas. And the GBR.

I'd take all that for some slightly inflated prices :| I absolutely loved Australia when I visited. Everyone's so nice and happy too.
Shawn Vanhaitsma
23.06.2013
Originally Posted by slinkydisc
I am actually in Oz.
That explains it then. The Wicked Witch and her fiendish boardroom of Wheel wielding monkeys really drive prices up
Bryon Taglieri
23.06.2013
Originally Posted by balakoth
Sounds like they dont like to give discounts over there across the pond huh? Whats the vat like on items too?

That really sucks.. I just purcahsed two CDJ 2000 Nexus from Muscians friend along with a reflection shield two days ago; called and got 750 off the order (And since i live in Virginia no sales tax)

Least ya got something though I suppose right?
I am actually in Oz.
Edwardo Rothenberger
22.06.2013		The whole electronics market is shit in the UK.

I believe if you compared the US cost price and converted it, you would find it we are paying more in the UK
Shawn Vanhaitsma
23.06.2013
Originally Posted by slinkydisc
I use to work in sales and tech work in retail and the best trick to bargaining on price is to know exactly what you want and have a good idea of what the price is possible i.e what online shops in your region can do. If the sales person believes its going to be a quick easy sale and they know your price driven you will always get a good price. Buy in your region as a warranty can be a massive pain if the product is not from your region. Also if they seem disinterested in the sale just believe what they be like if you have problems in the future don't be afraid to work if you don't like the services you are getting.
Sounds like they dont like to give discounts over there across the pond huh? Whats the vat like on items too?

That really sucks.. I just purcahsed two CDJ 2000 Nexus from Muscians friend along with a reflection shield two days ago; called and got 750 off the order (And since i live in Virginia no sales tax)

Least ya got something though I suppose right?
Bryon Taglieri
22.06.2013		I use to work in sales and tech work in retail and the best trick to bargaining on price is to know exactly what you want and have a good idea of what the price is possible i.e what online shops in your region can do. If the sales person believes its going to be a quick easy sale and they know your price driven you will always get a good price. Buy in your region as a warranty can be a massive pain if the product is not from your region. Also if they seem disinterested in the sale just believe what they be like if you have problems in the future don't be afraid to work if you don't like the services you are getting.
Edwardo Rothenberger
22.06.2013		My discount with DV247 was by price matching, come to believe of it.

Well done.

I bought from them for their 4 year guarantee as well
Milda Poucher
22.06.2013		Update on this.

So rang up DV today wanting to just order the monitor speakers, cables and 2 decksaver covers. They asked why I was no longer ordering the CDJ and DJM and I said I have seen it on a French site for cheaper + I can get cashback. They matched the site price and took off the cashback which was 4%. Saved
Addie Engbrecht
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by Dustin V
Who would you recommend? From my personal experience, Guitar Center, and Musicians Friend have been the best.

I went into GC, a while back, and bought a S4, X1, Audio 2, and some audio cables. At check out I asked the cashier if he could throw in a discount, so he gave me the Audio 2 for free! That was a $99 bonus! Very happy camper!
That's a hell of a discount. Good ish.

Pro Audio Star and AGIProDJ if you're looking to order a bunch of stuff for a considerable price. Sweetwater doesn't have the best prices, but to me, no one beats them when it comes to all the other intangibles (making sure ish was ordered n processed correctly, actually having knowledgable people, communication, free fast shipping, they ship every order w/ a bunch of candy )
Milda Poucher
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by Big Panda
I have had only good experiences with DV and 4 years warranty is great. I know
Candy Vardy
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by manchild
I was looking to spend about that much at one time as well. I e-mailed different stores and saw what prices they could give me. I was able to get a considerable amount knocked off (like $700 off the total order), and I even got an innofader thrown in for free on my order. Ask around. Wish I could recommend some dealers, but I'm in the states
Who would you recommend? From my personal experience, Guitar Center, and Musicians Friend have been the best.

I went into GC, a while back, and bought a S4, X1, Audio 2, and some audio cables. At check out I asked the cashier if he could throw in a discount, so he gave me the Audio 2 for free! That was a $99 bonus! Very happy camper!
Dedra Kreinbring
21.06.2013		I have had only good experiences with DV and 4 years warranty is great. I know
Milda Poucher
21.06.2013		DV was the people I phoned

woodbrass.com are the french company. I will give em a call tomorrow and ask them about warranty and where they would have me send it to if it became faulty. They offer 3 years as well. DV offer 4. You are right that would have a lot to do with it. So if I like what I hear from them then I can't say no.
Edwardo Rothenberger
21.06.2013		I wouldn't buy from overseas.

I know you would save
Milda Poucher
21.06.2013		So bit of a update on this. One store, the store that I order all my gear from can't move on Pioneer gear at all really. The monitors that I wanted they were able to price match, they were also able to bring the price of the decksavers down although I believe I have actually found them lower still elsewhere. But the total was around
Brunilda Kora
17.06.2013
There is definite wiggle room.
This.

There is ALWAYS wiggle room. If there is not, go somewhere else - where there will ALWAYS be wiggle room...
Mikki Retana
17.06.2013		I was able to haggle with a local store and managed to get 2x CDJ-2000 NXS for $1500.00 each (tax included) and the DJM-900 NXS for $1400.00 (tax included).

There is definite wiggle room. My buddy is a pioneer rep and basically told me to go in and tell them what you want to pay with tax, and leave if they won't do it. He said he has seen some stores sell the units at cost in order to get the customer to do some repeat purchasing.
Gaynell Rydberg
17.06.2013		When I was buying guitar gear, everyone told me to bargain no matter what. You could usually get a hardshell case and maybe 100 bucks taken down if you were buying a guitar >1000 dollars. Less than 1k usually the case and some picks/cables were thrown in.

Not many people know you should bargain when you're at GC just because it's a chain store. That said, you really gotta be a sly bargainer since it's not gonna be the same bargaining you do at the flea market.
Joesph Kasian
17.06.2013
Originally Posted by balakoth
Go nuts? Interesting, I never received that kind of response. "Sure heres a couple coupons, Thanks and please contact us again if you have any questions" and that was for alot more than 4k :P

Sweetwater cares even less.
Must be your face, manners or attitude which are putting people off, as I have had great discount on large priced orders when going to music stores.

You have to do your homework, get different figures from rivals and then go to a store and make them believe you are walking out with that stack of cash in your pocket. They won't allow it. Call their bluff.
Shawn Vanhaitsma
17.06.2013
Originally Posted by SlvrDragon50
If you were in the US, I know you can get some deals if you order from Guitar Center. They'll frequently cut deals on stuff < 500 dollars. If you're spending 4k the sales person would go nuts.
Go nuts? Interesting, I never received that kind of response. "Sure heres a couple coupons, Thanks and please contact us again if you have any questions" and that was for alot more than 4k :P

Sweetwater cares even less.
Brunilda Kora
17.06.2013
Originally Posted by balakoth
And no 4k is not alot of buying power.
Hey, you're absolutely right mate.

No retailer anywhere would ever want a last minute order intake of
Edwardo Rothenberger
17.06.2013
Originally Posted by deevey

Also go in on a Monday morning first thing - sales people love starting the week on a high
Additionally, last thing on a Saturday was when the place I used to work at could be persuaded to go that bit lower, since we had targets for the week and were in competition with our sister stores to try and beat their takings for the week.

Saturday was the end of the weeks figures, so someone walking in an hour before we closed with a largish sale was unlikely to be shown the door.
Joesph Kasian
17.06.2013
Originally Posted by Patch
Milda Poucher
17.06.2013		Unfortunately where I live it's not possible to go into a music store that sells DJ gear. There isn't even a place nearby. I would have to go Bristol/London area which is a 4 hour drive and I would probably loose any money I saved on petrol there and back. I was going to go to Digital Village in Bristol but they closed that down a few weeks ago.

Going to ask around online today. Will be sure to let you all know of my experience.
Wilton Keuning
17.06.2013		Make as large of orders as possible so the salesperson has the most margin to play with. I am about to spend about $3,500 CAD on some gear and was able to find ALL of it on one web-store and a 5 minute web chat later and I got it 10% off AND free shipping.
Rolanda Clodfelder
17.06.2013		Walk into any bricks and Mortar shop with 4k to spend and you'll be treated like royalty and given a considerable discount.

Also go in on a Monday morning first thing - sales people love starting the week on a high

but it's not the same as someone going to a store and buying gear for 30 workstations for a school or something
That kinda thing rarely happens daily in music stores and generally only after weeks/months of negotiations and lots of hmmmm, hawwwww, hmmmm
Latoria Kavulich
16.06.2013		Cash talks. You can easily expect a 10-15% discount for cash.
Also, $6000+ USD is a shit ton of money.
Gaynell Rydberg
16.06.2013		If you were in the US, I know you can get some deals if you order from Guitar Center. They'll frequently cut deals on stuff < 500 dollars. If you're spending 4k the sales person would go nuts.
Shawn Vanhaitsma
16.06.2013
Originally Posted by loverocket
please #stfu

>
Someone needs to get a grasp on real life, if he has a problem with that statement. One mid range studio item is going to run 3 to 4 k, and upper tier much much more.

Like other have now agree. Make a direct call or use their online chat if they have one. I also live in the states, so I cant be much help. All the taxes youd pay from a site over here would negate all those great savings

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