Pioneer DDJ-SP1?

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Pioneer DDJ-SP1?
Posted on: 21.06.2013 by Lillian Morch
Got this from a friend who works at an Pioneer Service Center. I'm guessing a single player controller.

What do you guys believe?

This is a screenshot from the tool they use to report problems with pioneer products.

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Dalton Whaples
24.06.2013		Anyone else notice at the bottom it looks like DDJ WEGO 2? Am I late to the party or is this something new too?
Alphonso Deitchman
24.06.2013		The R1 has Colour FX and Beat FX per channel, which is much more similar to the DJM850 than the 350.
Trula Willadsen
24.06.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
A DJM2000 standalone AIO makes no sense. At that point you should just buy the existing products.

The R1 does have channel filters btw.
I disagree; Why, as a mobile DJ, shouldn't I be able to spend 1500-2000$ on a high end standalone player such as the XDJ-R1, but instead based on the DJM350, based on i.e. the DJM850? Why do I instantly need to spend 3500$ for a set which is a lot harder to carry around? I'd rather pay a bit more for a mobile high-end dj set I can take with me easily instead of having to pay full pull and get an extra hassle when taking everything with me by public transport for example.

Different people different needs I guess
Kristofer Krauel
24.06.2013
Originally Posted by makar1
A DJM2000 standalone AIO makes no sense. At that point you should just buy the existing products.

The R1 does have channel filters btw.
Agreed. You want high end feel you buy the high end separates that are available. IMO the R1 is likely to be the best quality all in one that Pioneer can provide at THAT price point.
Alphonso Deitchman
24.06.2013		A DJM2000 standalone AIO makes no sense. At that point you should just buy the existing products.

The R1 does have channel filters btw.
Trula Willadsen
24.06.2013
Originally Posted by kooper1980
XDJ R1 pretty much does this doesn't it.
Doesn't have the high-end feel the DDJ-SX does have, plus misses the dual deck functionality, touch pads, channel individual filters, etcetera. So even though the R1 offers the stand alone functions, it lacks in the finishing touch.

See it like this; you have a DJM/CDJ350 standalone solution, but you don't have a DJM/CDJ850/900/2000 high-end standalone. It's not like there isn't a market for that either.
Kristofer Krauel
24.06.2013
Originally Posted by Student
Instead of it being Single Platter I'm rather hoping it's gonna be a Standalone Player. The DDJ-SX but workable with USB/CD's and no more need of a laptop. That'd be awesome! Like the Aero, but prettier and more functional with the touchpads etcetera.
XDJ R1 pretty much does this doesn't it.
Trula Willadsen
24.06.2013		Instead of it being Single Platter I'm rather hoping it's gonna be a Standalone Player. The DDJ-SX but workable with USB/CD's and no more need of a laptop. That'd be awesome! Like the Aero, but prettier and more functional with the touchpads etcetera.
Lillian Morch
24.06.2013
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
So you just told the world that your mate is leaking info to you and you have posted it on here. I guess there may be a few questions asked on Monday in the Pioneer centre.
Jus sayin' (sorry but i hate leaks and leakers)
There is more then 1 service center in Belgium/Netherlands (I live close to the border).
It's always nice te hear that pioneer is coming with something new. But for now we only know the name.
Isa Erik
23.06.2013
Originally Posted by deevey
So this might be the equivalent of a Numark V7 but from Pioneer ? ... hmmmm sounds VERY interesting.
No, V7 has a spinning jogwheel and it would be a first attempt for Pio to try to incorporate than. Denon would be a different story..

Originally Posted by Stewe
Well the T1 official traktor mapping from pioneer site doesn't even have the jog wheels mapped in and you wont even find any custom mapping available online. No wonder why.
I've mapped many serato and vdj controllers in traktor so that shouldn't be the case with S1 unless any of those controllers are sending some controls via HID natively.
So you're saying Pio DDJ-T1 & DDJ-S1 are sending some kind of HID commands for jogs and for that, it is immposible to custom map? Did not know that...but that would explain excellent jog wheel performance in Traktor for a third party product, right? Pioneer must have paid NI for that

Originally Posted by mdcdesign
If Pioneer DID release a single-platter modular controller, and it works with Traktor, that MIGHT be the first Pioneer product I'd actually consider buying. Unfortunately, it'd probably be stupidly expensive.
+1

Originally Posted by mdcdesign
You make it sound like companies don't know EXACTLY what their competition are doing already... corporate espionage is a fact of life in any competitive markets. The only people truly in the dark about new products are the general public I'm afraid.
Totally agree. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if this is a Pioneer leak (considering all the hype about Behringer PL-1 )
Emelina Chillson
23.06.2013		How many iphone knock offs were released within 6 months of the Iphone release. In my line of work, someone not only got a hold of the POS software we wrote for our company within our company, they reverse engineered it to have a slightly different GUI. They successfully ran that software in their business for about 6 months before it was discovered. Needless to say we won the suit.

For a cdj knockoff one has to look no further than gemini. Theyre jog wheel is even identical to the 800 aside from the dots facing a different direction.

The ipod touch was pretty much a direct knock off already of previous devices such as the ipaq. Apple saw what HP did and improved upon it making it more user friendly and media driven. The original Ipod was a good design which didnt have any knockoffs that I can remember, but at its release the market had already ben flooded with mp3 and mp3/cd players.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
23.06.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Unfortunately, the rest of the world doesn't share that viewpoint Karlos
Oh yeah I fully realise that. It's all good fun for the folks on the community s.

It usually end in a bloodbath when users find stuff out early then start to expect things quicker than planned and start hating on the product before its left the design room. Evidence of that is right here on this community .



Originally Posted by mdcdesign
If I was running things at a DJ company I'd be posting sketches, renders, spec lists, everything to Facebook/DJTT from day 1; from concept all the way through to production.
No really dude, you would not. Advance knowledge of future projects can directly affect sales of current projects and the people at the top of the organisation are the ones that decide when I project is public knowledge not the devs or the designers.

I have no interest in knowing about a product before the company responsible is ready to tell. Just isnt my thing.
Its not a popular opinion, but I hate leaks and I hate leakers. It only leads to bad things, even if they are only silly arguments on community s... Meh.
Kristofer Krauel
23.06.2013
Originally Posted by hellnegative
What he says is true. In every industry competitors are constantly finding ways to discover the inner workings of each other and what is coming soon.
Not sure that's entirely true. How many iPods were released before the actual iPod? How many cdj's? How many iPhones?
Emelina Chillson
23.06.2013		What he says is true. In every industry competitors are constantly finding ways to discover the inner workings of each other and what is coming soon.
Doreen Schurle
23.06.2013
Originally Posted by kooper1980
Yeah and then you'd probably be pissed off when another company steals the idea, manufactures it faster and sells at a lower price point!! Remind me never to go into business with you!
You make it sound like companies don't know EXACTLY what their competition are doing already... corporate espionage is a fact of life in any competitive markets. The only people truly in the dark about new products are the general public I'm afraid.
Kristofer Krauel
22.06.2013
Originally Posted by mdcdesign
Unfortunately, the rest of the world doesn't share that viewpoint Karlos

Personally, I hate the fact that most companies keep customers in the dark during product development. I was heavily involved in several Microsoft leaks back in the late 90s/early 2000s, which were essentially orchestrated by Microsoft themselves. The underground beta community provided invaluable feedback on the progression of the development, as well as generating significant hype amongst tech users.

If I was running things at a DJ company I'd be posting sketches, renders, spec lists, everything to Facebook/DJTT from day 1; from concept all the way through to production.
Yeah and then you'd probably be pissed off when another company steals the idea, manufactures it faster and sells at a lower price point!! Remind me never to go into business with you!
Doreen Schurle
22.06.2013
Originally Posted by Karlos Santos
Jus sayin' (sorry but i hate leaks and leakers)
Unfortunately, the rest of the world doesn't share that viewpoint Karlos

Personally, I hate the fact that most companies keep customers in the dark during product development. I was heavily involved in several Microsoft leaks back in the late 90s/early 2000s, which were essentially orchestrated by Microsoft themselves. The underground beta community provided invaluable feedback on the progression of the development, as well as generating significant hype amongst tech users.

If I was running things at a DJ company I'd be posting sketches, renders, spec lists, everything to Facebook/DJTT from day 1; from concept all the way through to production.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
22.06.2013
Originally Posted by CKsoundmachine
Got this from a friend who works at an Pioneer Service Center. I'm guessing a single player controller.

What do you guys believe?

This is a screenshot from the tool they use to report problems with pioneer products.

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So you just told the world that your mate is leaking info to you and you have posted it on here. I guess there may be a few questions asked on Monday in the Pioneer centre. Can't be that many people that use that tool in that office, if he is also in Belgium.

Better give him a call. He may be angry at you come Monday

Jus sayin' (sorry but i hate leaks and leakers)
Doreen Schurle
22.06.2013		If Pioneer DID release a single-platter modular controller, and it works with Traktor, that MIGHT be the first Pioneer product I'd actually consider buying. Unfortunately, it'd probably be stupidly expensive.
Rebbecca Fennell
22.06.2013		I like serato DJ, loved my V7 s so if this ends up being something like that (especially if it plays nicely with the my ddjsx), I'm all about it
Kellie Myrum
22.06.2013		Well the T1 official traktor mapping from pioneer site doesn't even have the jog wheels mapped in and you wont even find any custom mapping available online. No wonder why.

I've mapped many serato and vdj controllers in traktor so that shouldn't be the case with S1 unless any of those controllers are sending some controls via HID natively.
Rolanda Clodfelder
22.06.2013		So this might be the equivalent of a Numark V7 but from Pioneer ? ... hmmmm sounds VERY interesting.
Isa Erik
22.06.2013
Originally Posted by Stewe
Pio controllers are PITA for traktor mappings or at least S1 and T1 that people were coming to look help for.
OK, S1 was for Serato so no wonder there but I remember reading a T1 review that praised the mapping, especially the jogs performance O do you mean custom mappings?
Emelina Chillson
21.06.2013		It owuld be sweet to see a modular version of the sx, but Im not holding my breath.
Kellie Myrum
21.06.2013		Pio controllers are PITA for traktor mappings or at least S1 and T1 that people were coming to look help for.
Isa Erik
21.06.2013		sooo....probably a Serato DJ single platter controller (like PL-1 and SC2000) based on the DDJ-SX (chop of the mixer section and voila!). Hope it will come with a Traktor mapping (official)
Hellen Mindrup
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by dj gullum
usealy DDJ S* means Serato and T* is traktor but I don't realy care because they all can be mapped to MC Mixvibes Cross
Weak, I hate Serato lol.
Ashanti Andreacchio
22.06.2013
Originally Posted by Kwal
Hopefully not
usealy DDJ S* means Serato and T* is traktor but I don't realy care because they all can be mapped to MC Mixvibes Cross
Hellen Mindrup
21.06.2013
Originally Posted by Stewe
Maybe a new Serato controller...
Hopefully not
Lannie Kutay
21.06.2013		woah!!! sweet! insider info!
Kellie Myrum
21.06.2013		Maybe a new Serato controller...

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