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DJM-85- - Noise Effect. Damn that shit is LOUD!!!!

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DJM-85- - Noise Effect. Damn that shit is LOUD!!!! Posted on: 20.09.2013 by Brunilda Kora Anyone know of a way to lower the volume on the NOISE effect on the DJM mixers? Apart from using it on a channel with no music playing, I can't believe of a single use for it. It is WAY too loud. Anyone got a work around for it?
Tamela Batara 22.09.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign If you do some research on it you'll see it's a far cry from the Behringer DJXes you might expect it to be; plus it's still not a cheap unit by any means, at
Tamela Batara 22.09.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign If you do some research on it you'll see it's a far cry from the Behringer DJXes you might expect it to be; plus it's still not a cheap unit by any means, at
Doreen Schurle 22.09.2013	Originally Posted by Shishdisma Fixed that for you So you're saying that a feature shouldn't be included in a DJ product because no other product would have the same features? If that was the case we'd all still be using the same gear we were 20 years ago. You can also flash the firmware via the USB port on the back, and MOST Reloop products to date have received multiple firmware updates; in the case of some products, multiple firmwares were even offered depending on HOW you want to use the device (2 deck, 4 deck, etc in the case of controllers). And considering how EVERYONE who has reviewed it has said its one of the most well-built devices in terms of how solid the thing is, what on earth makes you believe it'd fall apart after a year? Also, calling it a "knockoff Chinese" product is bullshit, considering how both Pioneer and A&H gear is both produced in factories in China (as is pretty much EVERY other product out there). Reloop are a German company, and as such their gear is designed in Germany and then construction is outsourced to Chinese factories the same way EVERY other company does it. As far as I know, they use Hanpin for a fair amount of their stuff, who also produce (at least) the second best DJ turntable model in history (the Super OEM decks). So to knock the quality of their manufacturing work is essentially insulting anyone who's ever owned a set of Stanton ST-150s, AT-LP120s or any of the other rebrands of them. Originally Posted by Shishdisma You're discussing this with a shill, you're not getting an answer besides "Yeah, those products are great, but look how AWESOME this other stuff is!" Welcome to DJTT, people compare gear. Also, I'm technically not a "shill" as I'm not paid or compensated in any way by Reloop. We've worked together ONCE for this years' BPM and my support of them has been ongoing for years. I'm just a dedicated fan of their products, as are plenty of other people. Anyway, I'm done arguing; all I will say is it might be worth actually TRYING a product before slagging it off and making assumptions. If you want a third party opinion, ask DJWorx, DDJT or any of the other reviewers who attended BPM this year what they thought of the RMX and you'll get the same feedback as I've given.
Nancey Inderlied 22.09.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign EQ crossover frequencies that aren't standard between mixers, making them a massive liability in any kind of install situation, something no Reloop product has, scratch settings nobody uses, FX selected using a rotary encoder (not a multi-position switch) which means absolutely nothing because the odds of the firmware even being able to be flashed are slim (no physical interface), and the odds of it being possible and supported are even lower, powered USB hub, etc. Don't get me wrong, there are lots of features that the 900 and 2000 have that the RMX doesn't, like not falling apart after a year. The closest Pioneer equivalent would be the 800, but again - it isn't a knockoff Chinese consumer product, so equating it is useless. Fixed that for you Professional audio gear has never and will never be purchased based on features. Marketing departments waste so much money forgetting this, when they could spend that cash on better products... Originally Posted by makar1 Would you really be modifying your crossovers and fader curves? Surely you of all people would want to keep them standard given how much you like Traktor's internal mixer. And unless I'm mistaken, it doesn't have matrix routing in the sense that matters (inputs) like the Xone DBs. One thing I didn't notice until now was the lower resolution VUs on the RMX. You're discussing this with a shill, you're not getting an answer besides "Yeah, those products are great, but look how AWESOME this other stuff is!"
Doreen Schurle 22.09.2013	Originally Posted by xs2man Looks like a poor mans DJM 750 to me. But each to their own. What features are the 900/2000 missing then? I can believe of a lot that the rmx is missing... Adjustable EQ crossover frequencies, matrix routing, fully adjustable crossfader AND channel fader curves, FX selected using a rotary encoder (not a multi-position switch) which means that the available effects can be expanded and added to throughout its lifespan with firmware updates, powered USB hub, etc. Don't get me wrong, there are lots of features that the 900 and 2000 have that the RMX doesn't, but vice-versa is also true. The closest Pioneer equivalent would be the 800, but again - it doesn't have those features that set the RMX apart. I will agree that the omission of an audio interface is an ALMOST unforgivable oversight, but I'll be using mine with 4 Contours (one IE and 3 CEs) so I've got that part covered already.
Tamela Batara 22.09.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign If you do some research on it you'll see it's a far cry from the Behringer DJXes you might expect it to be; plus it's still not a cheap unit by any means, at
Doreen Schurle 22.09.2013	Originally Posted by Kwal And that's why I'm getting the Xone 92 Haha :P Be careful with the weird channel cue buttons; they're sort of countersunk inside a plastic collar and need you to almost hook your finger into them to push them down. The DB2/4, uses a more normal arrangement but all the :*2s use the weird PFL button.
Hellen Mindrup 22.09.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign This is why I'm getting the RMX-80 And that's why I'm getting the Xone 92
Vernie Kuam 21.09.2013	Originally Posted by MaxOne As everyone has said it is too loud... and to use it on a channel that's not being used. But basically once you decide that is it's use i actually love it! It's the sort of sound that needs it's own volume control in a way cause you want to bring volume up and down to create nice sweeps. Us in combo with echo on the beat fx and too. Agreed it'd be nice to turn it down in a setting or whatever but i actually like using it on it's own channel now. As previous users have stated, it seems to work best when used in an empty channel. One way I tend to use the white noise is to cut it in and out rhythmically while changing the frequency of the noise, resulting in a scratch-like sound. Ean did this in one of his videos with a white noise sample that was filtered/effected (he even talked about some newer mixers having the effect built in). http://www.djranking s.com/2009/11/1...e-in-a-dj-set/
Teresia Janusch 01.10.2013	I just use it on an unused channel, that way i can use a spiral with it...sounds pretty cool
Alla Bluemke 30.09.2013	I use it but as you mentioned on a channel which has no sound at about 3/4 volume level. I use it to build and break down and apply a echo effect on it at 1/1 beat so it echos out nicely. I actually really enjoy this affect cause you can build very slowly and quickly with it then echo out. It can create a nice filler on some tracks. But yes its super loud and there is no way to control that.
Adrian Zadrozny 30.09.2013	Dude.... just work both the filter knob (when you have Noise selected) and the fader onto which channel you are applying it. If you have 2 tracks playing in decks A & B (channels 1 & 2 on the DJM-850) hit the noise effect (with the filter knobs/color effect knobs all at 12'oclock on channels 1-4) and slowly rise the fader of channel 3 or 4 (your choice) and work the filter knob (right or left) to desired position. Not rocket science. I had a DJM-850 but kept having audio drop out issues with it. Owned it from October of last year until about July this year, wound up trading that sucker in for a 900 nexus and haven't looked back since! The DJM-850 was a great mixer, but again, it randomly would drop out audio for a few split seconds here and there (mine did at least, damn thing had a mind of its own!) especially if one was using Traktor and or using a device that required the built-in soundcard on the mixer.
Alphonso Deitchman 22.09.2013	I haven't checked all the models, but most of the high end Pioneer DJ gear is made in their own factory in Malaysia.
Doreen Schurle 22.09.2013	Originally Posted by Shishdisma Fixed that for you So you're saying that a feature shouldn't be included in a DJ product because no other product would have the same features? If that was the case we'd all still be using the same gear we were 20 years ago. You can also flash the firmware via the USB port on the back, and MOST Reloop products to date have received multiple firmware updates; in the case of some products, multiple firmwares were even offered depending on HOW you want to use the device (2 deck, 4 deck, etc in the case of controllers). And considering how EVERYONE who has reviewed it has said its one of the most well-built devices in terms of how solid the thing is, what on earth makes you believe it'd fall apart after a year? Also, calling it a "knockoff Chinese" product is bullshit, considering how both Pioneer and A&H gear is both produced in factories in China (as is pretty much EVERY other product out there). Reloop are a German company, and as such their gear is designed in Germany and then construction is outsourced to Chinese factories the same way EVERY other company does it. As far as I know, they use Hanpin for a fair amount of their stuff, who also produce (at least) the second best DJ turntable model in history (the Super OEM decks). So to knock the quality of their manufacturing work is essentially insulting anyone who's ever owned a set of Stanton ST-150s, AT-LP120s or any of the other rebrands of them. Originally Posted by Shishdisma You're discussing this with a shill, you're not getting an answer besides "Yeah, those products are great, but look how AWESOME this other stuff is!" Welcome to DJTT, people compare gear. Also, I'm technically not a "shill" as I'm not paid or compensated in any way by Reloop. We've worked together ONCE for this years' BPM and my support of them has been ongoing for years. I'm just a dedicated fan of their products, as are plenty of other people. Anyway, I'm done arguing; all I will say is it might be worth actually TRYING a product before slagging it off and making assumptions. If you want a third party opinion, ask DJWorx, DDJT or any of the other reviewers who attended BPM this year what they thought of the RMX and you'll get the same feedback as I've given.
Nancey Inderlied 22.09.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign EQ crossover frequencies that aren't standard between mixers, making them a massive liability in any kind of install situation, something no Reloop product has, scratch settings nobody uses, FX selected using a rotary encoder (not a multi-position switch) which means absolutely nothing because the odds of the firmware even being able to be flashed are slim (no physical interface), and the odds of it being possible and supported are even lower, powered USB hub, etc. Don't get me wrong, there are lots of features that the 900 and 2000 have that the RMX doesn't, like not falling apart after a year. The closest Pioneer equivalent would be the 800, but again - it isn't a knockoff Chinese consumer product, so equating it is useless. Fixed that for you Professional audio gear has never and will never be purchased based on features. Marketing departments waste so much money forgetting this, when they could spend that cash on better products... Originally Posted by makar1 Would you really be modifying your crossovers and fader curves? Surely you of all people would want to keep them standard given how much you like Traktor's internal mixer. And unless I'm mistaken, it doesn't have matrix routing in the sense that matters (inputs) like the Xone DBs. One thing I didn't notice until now was the lower resolution VUs on the RMX. You're discussing this with a shill, you're not getting an answer besides "Yeah, those products are great, but look how AWESOME this other stuff is!"
Alphonso Deitchman 22.09.2013	Would you really be modifying your crossovers and fader curves? Surely you of all people would want to keep them standard given how much you like Traktor's internal mixer. And unless I'm mistaken, it doesn't have matrix routing in the sense that matters (inputs) like the Xone DBs. One thing I didn't notice until now was the lower resolution VUs on the RMX.
Doreen Schurle 22.09.2013	Originally Posted by xs2man Looks like a poor mans DJM 750 to me. But each to their own. What features are the 900/2000 missing then? I can believe of a lot that the rmx is missing... Adjustable EQ crossover frequencies, matrix routing, fully adjustable crossfader AND channel fader curves, FX selected using a rotary encoder (not a multi-position switch) which means that the available effects can be expanded and added to throughout its lifespan with firmware updates, powered USB hub, etc. Don't get me wrong, there are lots of features that the 900 and 2000 have that the RMX doesn't, but vice-versa is also true. The closest Pioneer equivalent would be the 800, but again - it doesn't have those features that set the RMX apart. I will agree that the omission of an audio interface is an ALMOST unforgivable oversight, but I'll be using mine with 4 Contours (one IE and 3 CEs) so I've got that part covered already.
Tamela Batara 22.09.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign If you do some research on it you'll see it's a far cry from the Behringer DJXes you might expect it to be; plus it's still not a cheap unit by any means, at
Doreen Schurle 22.09.2013	Originally Posted by Kwal And that's why I'm getting the Xone 92 Haha :P Be careful with the weird channel cue buttons; they're sort of countersunk inside a plastic collar and need you to almost hook your finger into them to push them down. The DB2/4, uses a more normal arrangement but all the :*2s use the weird PFL button.
Hellen Mindrup 22.09.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign This is why I'm getting the RMX-80 And that's why I'm getting the Xone 92
Vernie Kuam 21.09.2013	Originally Posted by MaxOne As everyone has said it is too loud... and to use it on a channel that's not being used. But basically once you decide that is it's use i actually love it! It's the sort of sound that needs it's own volume control in a way cause you want to bring volume up and down to create nice sweeps. Us in combo with echo on the beat fx and too. Agreed it'd be nice to turn it down in a setting or whatever but i actually like using it on it's own channel now. As previous users have stated, it seems to work best when used in an empty channel. One way I tend to use the white noise is to cut it in and out rhythmically while changing the frequency of the noise, resulting in a scratch-like sound. Ean did this in one of his videos with a white noise sample that was filtered/effected (he even talked about some newer mixers having the effect built in). http://www.djranking s.com/2009/11/1...e-in-a-dj-set/
Hipolito Scionti 21.09.2013	As everyone has said it is too loud... and to use it on a channel that's not being used. But basically once you decide that is it's use i actually love it! It's the sort of sound that needs it's own volume control in a way cause you want to bring volume up and down to create nice sweeps. Us in combo with echo on the beat fx and too. Agreed it'd be nice to turn it down in a setting or whatever but i actually like using it on it's own channel now.
Audrey Pinda 21.09.2013	I found some good spots to use the noise to basically add an extra flair to to some breaks, or let it roll off with the bass. It takes some messing around and you can't overuse it, but it's a nice little touch sometimes. I don't own a DJM-900 but I've rented them and played on them, and it's just like everything else, if you fuck with it enough you'll find a place to use it. (Note: I usually spin breaks or DnB... other genres it might fit so well).
Doreen Schurle 20.09.2013	Originally Posted by Shishdisma ....But is still in circulation an obscene amount of time later. Chinese bargain bin gear tends to last a year or so. If you do some research on it you'll see it's a far cry from the Behringer DJXes you might expect it to be; plus it's still not a cheap unit by any means, at
Nancey Inderlied 20.09.2013	Originally Posted by mdcdesign But it DOES have a
Doreen Schurle 20.09.2013	Originally Posted by makar1 You could have just bought a DJM800 seven years ago, it doesn't have a Noise effect either. But it DOES have a
Alphonso Deitchman 20.09.2013	You could have just bought a DJM800 seven years ago, it doesn't have a Noise effect either.
Doreen Schurle 20.09.2013	Originally Posted by Kwal Worst effect ever. Not sure why it's even on the mixer. This is why I'm getting the RMX-80
Palma Hanslip 20.09.2013	I hate it on the 900/RMX, i know i can edit it on the RMX but wish i could on the 900.
Linda Chavda 20.09.2013	Noise on a mixer hitting 0db will be significantly louder than the music on the channel.
Hellen Mindrup 20.09.2013	Worst effect ever. Not sure why it's even on the mixer.
Augustine Mitzen 20.09.2013	try the noise effect on a channel that's not playing anything, then you should be able to control it separately. IIRC it should work that way that is, if you're not using all 4 channels
Nancey Inderlied 20.09.2013	If your gain levels are set to the first red, the noise, even at full blast, shouldn't be much louder than it.
Brunilda Kora 20.09.2013	It doesn't. It is FAR TOO LOUD. (Maybe I need to adjust my amplifier volume, and run my mixer channels louder - maybe then the Noise will not be too loud)
Nancey Inderlied 20.09.2013	From what I remember, the noise effect at it's peak only hits the top of the meters. It's designed to sit in with a track at regular volume.
Brunilda Kora 20.09.2013	Loving it. I had a good couple of hours with it today. Gotta do something about the crossfader, though. Cut-in is awful. At the very least I'll need to do the credit card mod.
Marcelina Hanaway 20.09.2013	Patch, how are you liking this mixer btw?
Lannie Kutay 20.09.2013	aren't you supposed to sweep it in with the color knob
Brunilda Kora 20.09.2013	I get that. But then the music on that channel gets lowered too. Seems crazy to me that you can only use the noise effect on a channel with no music playing..!
Adrian Zadrozny 20.09.2013	Originally Posted by Patch Anyone know of a way to lower the volume on the NOISE effect on the DJM mixers? Apart from using it on a channel with no music playing, I can't believe of a single use for it. It is WAY too loud. Anyone got a work around for it? Lower volume fader on selected channel for assigned effect (noise).

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