Have the rules for opening DJs changed?
Have the rules for opening DJs changed? Posted on: 09.10.2013 by Catheryn Airola Hey guys,So lately, I've opened for quite a few headliners in my city recently. Names such as: 3LAU, Bingo Players and the Bloody Beetroots. I've noticed a few things that I've found to be particularly interesting as far as musical selections for openers and what is expected of us. A little about me: I came up playing all genres of House music, I was taught mostly by older House-heads in my city who had been around since the inception of the rave scene, and had really seen it all. I was taught to, "know your place," and to never step outside of the boundaries of being an opening DJ, and basically obeying "The Esoteric Art of Being the Opening DJ," to a T. I could play an entire set of Kerry Chandler and Dirtybird records, or I could do an entire set of mainstream, Beatport Top 10 Electro. I love it all. First and foremost, I've noticed that the majority of the artists I've opened for, as well as the promotional companies who bring them in don't expect their openers to abide by any particular set of rules. At first I didn't believe it and I figured that each experience was an exception to the rule. My first experience with this was opening for 3LAU. Having been taught that an opening DJ is never to play anything too high energy prior to the headliner, I prepared multiple folders of Tech/Progressive House. Little did I know, I was going to have a Dubstep DJ on before me who played literally every Dubstep/Trap banger I could imagine. He did a great job, don't get me wrong, but it totally went against the rules of opening. I proceeded to get up there and start to play my more House-y material, and I watched the entire dancefloor die. Shortly thereafter, I started busting out my mainstream Electro, watched the dancefloor get packed again, and was even complimented by 3LAU on my track selection before he got on! I figured that this was some sort of mistake and 3LAU was just really cool (which, he definitely is). Although, my heavy hitter Electro and the prior DJs bass-heavy selections did nothing in the way of "burning," his set. In fact, I believe it hyped people up even more. My next experience that got me believeing was opening for the Bloody Beetroots + Valentino Khan. Again, I abided by infamous rules for opening DJs, and played mostly House/Tech House w/o vocals and more percussive tracks. I really did a lot with my set as well, minimized time spent in breakdowns, did many custom edits, etc. My experience was exactly the same as my last. I started in the way that an opener is traditionally allowed to start, watched the crowd yawn, and ended up pulling out my more mainstream/more peak hour House. I wasn't sure how the next DJ was going to feel about it, but, once again, Valentino Khan complimented me on my selection, hyped me up on the microphone, and proceeded to play a set of banger Trap without anyone growing "tired." My most recent experience was opening for the Bingo Players. I was told by the promo company to, "do whatever you want, we trust you," so, instead of planning on playing by the rules that I was always told to obey, I bought a ton of new Melbourne Bounce/Trap/Hip-Hop mashups (TJR is the man), and generally stuff I would play if I was the "headliner." I went ahead and played what the crowd wanted, and...once again, was told by the promoters, audience and the next DJ that everything I played was great. Here's my hypothesis: the popularity of EDM and the fact that it has now reached epic proportions as far as being mainstream has changed the rules for opening DJs. I believe (depending on the circumstance) it's relatively safe for opening DJs to "rock it out," provided that they've researched the headliners they're opening for and aren't playing any of the tracks they are playing regularly, and don't play anything in the current Beatport Top 50. What do you guys believe? How do you usually open for headliners? Have your experiences been similar? | |
Malcolm Leckenby 12.10.2013 |
Originally Posted by Cook
most important rule if there is any |
Catheryn Airola 10.10.2013 |
Originally Posted by Patch
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Isa Erik 10.10.2013 |
Originally Posted by Patch
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Bethann Olortegui 10.10.2013 |
Originally Posted by keithace
There are no real 'rules,' only etiquette. It completely depends on the situation and it's testament to you as a DJ to read that situation and act accordingly - basically don't ruin the next guy's set. It sounds like your background is warming up for house DJs and your methods and teaching is pretty spot on imo. If only more opening DJs had the same mindset. |
Catheryn Airola 09.10.2013 |
Originally Posted by Kwal
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Catheryn Airola 09.10.2013 | Hey guys, So lately, I've opened for quite a few headliners in my city recently. Names such as: 3LAU, Bingo Players and the Bloody Beetroots. I've noticed a few things that I've found to be particularly interesting as far as musical selections for openers and what is expected of us. A little about me: I came up playing all genres of House music, I was taught mostly by older House-heads in my city who had been around since the inception of the rave scene, and had really seen it all. I was taught to, "know your place," and to never step outside of the boundaries of being an opening DJ, and basically obeying "The Esoteric Art of Being the Opening DJ," to a T. I could play an entire set of Kerry Chandler and Dirtybird records, or I could do an entire set of mainstream, Beatport Top 10 Electro. I love it all. First and foremost, I've noticed that the majority of the artists I've opened for, as well as the promotional companies who bring them in don't expect their openers to abide by any particular set of rules. At first I didn't believe it and I figured that each experience was an exception to the rule. My first experience with this was opening for 3LAU. Having been taught that an opening DJ is never to play anything too high energy prior to the headliner, I prepared multiple folders of Tech/Progressive House. Little did I know, I was going to have a Dubstep DJ on before me who played literally every Dubstep/Trap banger I could imagine. He did a great job, don't get me wrong, but it totally went against the rules of opening. I proceeded to get up there and start to play my more House-y material, and I watched the entire dancefloor die. Shortly thereafter, I started busting out my mainstream Electro, watched the dancefloor get packed again, and was even complimented by 3LAU on my track selection before he got on! I figured that this was some sort of mistake and 3LAU was just really cool (which, he definitely is). Although, my heavy hitter Electro and the prior DJs bass-heavy selections did nothing in the way of "burning," his set. In fact, I believe it hyped people up even more. My next experience that got me believeing was opening for the Bloody Beetroots + Valentino Khan. Again, I abided by infamous rules for opening DJs, and played mostly House/Tech House w/o vocals and more percussive tracks. I really did a lot with my set as well, minimized time spent in breakdowns, did many custom edits, etc. My experience was exactly the same as my last. I started in the way that an opener is traditionally allowed to start, watched the crowd yawn, and ended up pulling out my more mainstream/more peak hour House. I wasn't sure how the next DJ was going to feel about it, but, once again, Valentino Khan complimented me on my selection, hyped me up on the microphone, and proceeded to play a set of banger Trap without anyone growing "tired." My most recent experience was opening for the Bingo Players. I was told by the promo company to, "do whatever you want, we trust you," so, instead of planning on playing by the rules that I was always told to obey, I bought a ton of new Melbourne Bounce/Trap/Hip-Hop mashups (TJR is the man), and generally stuff I would play if I was the "headliner." I went ahead and played what the crowd wanted, and...once again, was told by the promoters, audience and the next DJ that everything I played was great. Here's my hypothesis: the popularity of EDM and the fact that it has now reached epic proportions as far as being mainstream has changed the rules for opening DJs. I believe (depending on the circumstance) it's relatively safe for opening DJs to "rock it out," provided that they've researched the headliners they're opening for and aren't playing any of the tracks they are playing regularly, and don't play anything in the current Beatport Top 50. What do you guys believe? How do you usually open for headliners? Have your experiences been similar? |
Edwardo Rothenberger 12.10.2013 | All my main partying was between 1987-1996 for House. People never danced to the first DJ on. I was happy when I did a warm up at The Cross and got a load dancing and I wasn't playing headlining tracks, but tracks with a good medium vibe. Back then every DJ played 2 hour slots. I realised being the first one on, it was unlikely anyone would dance, and my job was to set the mood whilst early arrivers had a drink at the bar, and hopefully in the last 1/2 hour get them dancing for the next guy on. Generally, the main DJ would be on after the guy who took over from me. As a punter I only would get straight on the dancefloor if I arrived around 12.00-01.00 withe club finishing at 4.00. They would open at 10.00 or 10.30. I didn't want to arrive then and wouldn't want to be on the dance floor that early. |
Malcolm Leckenby 12.10.2013 |
Originally Posted by Cook
most important rule if there is any |
Dione Haimes 11.10.2013 | Your obviously doing well at what your doing so keep doing it, Remember, DJing is about reading the crowd, your always going to get people that CANT read a crowd so proceed with the beatport top 10 bangers, and get away with it. Obviously the general rules are, Dont play any of your headliners tunes/remixes Listen to your headliners recent sets beforehand, dont play anything you believe they might play Dont try to upstage them, Dont leave the mixer hot And as stated, a warmup DJ isnt a 'Soft' DJ. |
Halley Wurzer 10.10.2013 | This thread OP, I completely relate. Patch, i'm with you. See you on the other side. |
Natacha Rouhier 10.10.2013 | Lots of great tips in here. Basically respect the headliner. I still believe it matters no matter what genre you're playing. |
Darren Teboe 10.10.2013 | I believe the problem with the "rules" and knowing how to open are looked at a little too black and white. Opening encompasses knowing your place, and which roles to play and when. If you are the very first DJ of the evening , going easy and mellow is the way to go. You only have to warm the crowd up. If you are going to play right before the headliner, what the OP did seems spot on. I see the guy right before the headliner as having a duty to make a smooth transition from the last guy into the main DJ. That means building the set into the same energy that the headliner will have. You shouldn't maintain that energy through the whole set, but definitely get it there. |
Hanna Ridenbaugh 10.10.2013 | It's the reason I can't be bothered going out much now. Every dj believes it's his time to shine and play bangers. |
Catheryn Airola 10.10.2013 |
Originally Posted by Patch
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Alycia Niederriter 10.10.2013 | I'm beginning to like this thread, very informative |
Isa Erik 10.10.2013 |
Originally Posted by Patch
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Brunilda Kora 10.10.2013 | This is a symptom of the gradual implosion and eventual death of dance music and rave culture. The crowd just doesn't have the attention span anymore. They want the greatest evening of their life, week in, week out, and they want it to be rammed down their throats every 10 minutes throughout the evening . There are still GREAT evening s out there, with DJ's that still play by the rules. BUT - there are so many punters, and so many "DJ's" out there, that you can't help but find evening s that cater to the majority of the paying punters. And, unfortunately, those punters want to hear every hit song 2 or three times every evening ... Y'know, people are having fun (Dj's, promotors, owners, punters) and getting paid - but it's such a shame that it has turned into POP culture. See you on the other side. |
Tera Baragan 10.10.2013 | The general rules for me: A. Not play the genre of the headliner B. Bring the energy down at the end of your set. C. More often then not I will play about 10bpm slower then the usual of the headliner, gives me room to play bangers but also not destroy there thunder. |
Dannie Dimora 10.10.2013 | As matrick said, it's a matter of etiquette. I went to see Freemasons the other day, and there was a youngster who won some kind of dj contest, and was there to open for them. The dj before him finished his set with betoko-raining again (a fairly slow, calm song), and the guy absolutely nonchalantly got on the stage and proceeded to mix "raining again" with guetta's "aint a party". His whole set was composed of guetta and avicii original mixes, played fully (he probably used sth. like 8-10 tracks in his 1-hour set). Needless to say, it got the crowd jumping, but it completely killed Freemasons' later performance, which was actually VERY good tech-house/house mixing. People just started going away. So yeah, it's not a matter of track selection, it's a matter of situation. |
Bethann Olortegui 10.10.2013 |
Originally Posted by keithace
There are no real 'rules,' only etiquette. It completely depends on the situation and it's testament to you as a DJ to read that situation and act accordingly - basically don't ruin the next guy's set. It sounds like your background is warming up for house DJs and your methods and teaching is pretty spot on imo. If only more opening DJs had the same mindset. |
Margie Pavell 09.10.2013 | Depends on who you are playing. When you are opening for a high energy act of course your energy has to be higher. I believe you confused "opening DJ" with playing soft. |
Catheryn Airola 09.10.2013 |
Originally Posted by Kwal
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Hellen Mindrup 09.10.2013 | Here in chicago we have a few venues where you wouldn't last 5 minutes if you played any electro or trap in an opening set |
Maryam Fevold 09.10.2013 | Good post, man. Especially your last note about the popularity of "EDM" changing the rules of an opener. Definitely interesting... |
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