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delay pedals for live DJ sets?
Posted on: 31.07.2011 by Vikki Guinyard
anybody using a delay pedal for live DJ sets?

I'm looking for something interesting, left of center - not just for straight dubs, but maybe for some crazier effects, maybe on some synths, etc.

I've been believeing about the Boss RE-20, but I'd love to know what else out there is being used by other DJs.

I also would be into something with a "hold" function, but its not necessary...

thanks in advance for the advice!
Brunilda Kora
15.10.2013
Use one of these:

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...and Ableton Live. All the delay/dub (and anything else your brain can believe of!) you'll ever want/need!
Rosita Bourdeaux
22.10.2011
Originally Posted by PartyMcFly
Guitar pedals may sound like a good idea, but believe about what you're doing by introducing an instrument level (very weak signal, as opposed to line level) component into your sound system. I don't know a sound guy who would let a DJ plug a guitar pedal in to the booth mixer.

I actually let another DJ plug a guitar delay pedal into my mixer at a house party a long time ago. It was annoying and didn't turn out quite like either of us hoped. And trust me, drugs don't make it sound any better.
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Rosita Bourdeaux
22.10.2011
Originally Posted by miercoles
i've thought about the DD-7. Everybody seems to swear by the DD-5. Not sure what the DD-5 has over the DD-7. anybody know?

also, anybody using a boss RE-20? I'm really curious about this pedal!!! and esp what other DJ's might believe of it....
Their both fine pedals. The dd-7 has a few extra features over the dd-5 but its all in your personal taste.

From a guitarists perspective, the dd-7 is reliable although BOSS pedals are generally frowned upon by "seasoned" guitarists because of the quality of their buffers. Generally for a better quality signal you would want a true bypassed pedal in your chain but this isn't a deal breaker (you can mod it to be true bypass if you want).

What exactly do you want out of the pedal? I know the DD-7 has a very limited looping or "hold" feature. It's mainly a standard delay pedal. It has tap tempo which is always nice as it will let you set the delay time on the fly but keep in mind this feature is on almost any digital delay (you can also mod this so you can have an extra dedicated switch for setting the tempo right on the pedal). I've owned 2 of these before but as I said this is just from a guitarists perspective. I've never had the need to incorporate my pedals in my setup as I use ableton and its plethora of effects. I believe most people here do the same with traktor. I wish I had a conventional mixer to test it out for you
Brunilda Kora
15.10.2013
Use one of these:

rolls_midi_pedal_mp80_62.jpg

...and Ableton Live. All the delay/dub (and anything else your brain can believe of!) you'll ever want/need!
Azucena Minks
15.10.2013
also some venues get a bit edgy when you start plugging shit into the mixer mid set.. not an issue if your not gigging or they run a dual mixer rig
Azucena Minks
15.10.2013
Hey guys, I've been using a Boss DD-7 on and off for a couple of years now on DJM800's. They are tricky to get working decently on the 800's however if you have a Xone 92 they seem to be baller!

If your seriously considering getting a time factor I would still try out a DD-7 first as the time factor is pretty much a very powerful DD-7 but is more than double the price. DD-7's have good resell too apparently

Xone 92 set up is really easy and if you add a foot pedal it would kill it! On everything else it is a bit of a pain to be honest and I've tried pretty much every way possible of setting it up on a djm800.

Using an analogue delay sounds awesome but you can get similar sounds from traktor's delays. Food for thought
Ciara Cuttill
14.10.2013
I was debating about adding the the Boss DD-7 (which is stereo) but now I am leaning towards the Eventide Time Factor.
Lucie Rohlin
14.10.2013
^yeah pretty much my only criterion is that it isn't digital - would like it if it was analogue all the way from needle to speakers.
Kiyoko Wellisch
14.10.2013
I personally wouldn't worry about finding a stereo pedal. It's just a delay- I don't care if it's in mono.
Lucie Rohlin
09.10.2013
I'm just starting DJing and am interested in this too. I'll be playing all vinyl with a xone:22 mixer so I thought getting a nice analogue delay might be a good idea, particularly for reggae sets and for making tape-delay style beds of sound that I could fade in a track with a different tempo over.

Did a bit of research as well and there are definitely some stereo pedals floating around. Didn't believe about the difference in line to inst. signal before though. as long as the effect is never 100% wet I guess you wouldn't really notice the difference in signal level
Rosita Bourdeaux
22.10.2011
Originally Posted by PartyMcFly
Guitar pedals may sound like a good idea, but believe about what you're doing by introducing an instrument level (very weak signal, as opposed to line level) component into your sound system. I don't know a sound guy who would let a DJ plug a guitar pedal in to the booth mixer.

I actually let another DJ plug a guitar delay pedal into my mixer at a house party a long time ago. It was annoying and didn't turn out quite like either of us hoped. And trust me, drugs don't make it sound any better.
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Dj LsEx
22.10.2011
Guitar pedals may sound like a good idea, but believe about what you're doing by introducing an instrument level (very weak signal, as opposed to line level) component into your sound system. I don't know a sound guy who would let a DJ plug a guitar pedal in to the booth mixer.

I actually let another DJ plug a guitar delay pedal into my mixer at a house party a long time ago. It was annoying and didn't turn out quite like either of us hoped. And trust me, drugs don't make it sound any better.
Bertie Metro
22.10.2011
I have been researching the boss re 20, and from what i gather, it's one that has a good appeal for us djs.
First it's a double pedal, so you can tap tempo with one side, effect the stuff with the other, it apparently has a nice sound ( maybe not top studio sound, or close to the original space echo, but nice enough ).
Second it has treble/bass controls, and also has a direct switch ( so you only get the wet signal, very interesting for the people that have a nuo mixer for exemple, where the fx send return is designed a bit weirdly).
And you can plug in a secondary control pedal/footswitch to control other parameters without your hands ( like volume or the reverb, etc...).

But with pedals, either you get one that is capable of being midi driven, or you'll have to develop your "follow the rhythm with your feet", if not your delays will not be synced/be out of time. At the same time it can give a nice humanized feeling to your music/effect use.

Personally i'm hesitating between a midi footpedal rig and a re 20, the reason being the only thing effect wise that i really use is a delay ( so, re 20), but with a midi footpedal, i could also tap into the power of the looper... I need to find a guitarist with this pedal and try it for myself, there is no other way :P
Rosita Bourdeaux
22.10.2011
Originally Posted by miercoles
i've thought about the DD-7. Everybody seems to swear by the DD-5. Not sure what the DD-5 has over the DD-7. anybody know?

also, anybody using a boss RE-20? I'm really curious about this pedal!!! and esp what other DJ's might believe of it....
Their both fine pedals. The dd-7 has a few extra features over the dd-5 but its all in your personal taste.

From a guitarists perspective, the dd-7 is reliable although BOSS pedals are generally frowned upon by "seasoned" guitarists because of the quality of their buffers. Generally for a better quality signal you would want a true bypassed pedal in your chain but this isn't a deal breaker (you can mod it to be true bypass if you want).

What exactly do you want out of the pedal? I know the DD-7 has a very limited looping or "hold" feature. It's mainly a standard delay pedal. It has tap tempo which is always nice as it will let you set the delay time on the fly but keep in mind this feature is on almost any digital delay (you can also mod this so you can have an extra dedicated switch for setting the tempo right on the pedal). I've owned 2 of these before but as I said this is just from a guitarists perspective. I've never had the need to incorporate my pedals in my setup as I use ableton and its plethora of effects. I believe most people here do the same with traktor. I wish I had a conventional mixer to test it out for you
Vanita Gatchell
22.10.2011
I don't know about a pedal, but I've loved the Pioneer EFX-1000 & EFX-500 for while now, I believe pricewise it's comparable (used) to some of the other units listed
Brant Briski
19.08.2011
i have an eventide time factor... you can assign parameter control via cc's, lots of interesting modulation and routing, incredible sounds relative to how deep you want to go.
Vikki Guinyard
20.08.2011
i've thought about the DD-7. Everybody seems to swear by the DD-5. Not sure what the DD-5 has over the DD-7. anybody know?

also, anybody using a boss RE-20? I'm really curious about this pedal!!! and esp what other DJ's might believe of it....
Azucena Minks
02.08.2011
ive been using a Boss DD7 on and off for 12 months. Depending which mixer your using, they can be a bit tricky to hook up and use without losing volume
Anisa Fourte
02.08.2011
I use a RigKontrol footpedal system from NI's Guitar Rig series as a midi controller for Traktor effects, or I can try and tax my system and run Guitar Rig separately as an insert on my mixer. Though mostly just midi... With the two external pedal jacks it can give you up to 11 switches/buttons and an expression pedal... or 9 Switches and 3 expression pedals.. I love the thing, use it to drop 808s while I'm scratching too...

So I've had it where one footswitch controls a delay, or even where the expression pedal activates and adjusts delay setting. Fun stuff these footswitches and pedals are!
Kiyoko Wellisch
31.07.2011
Oh I thought you meant cutting the input to the delay so you just hear the delay trail off by itself. nm me then!
Vikki Guinyard
31.07.2011
yes, "freeze" or "hold" is when the effected sound is basically looped infinitely - usually by flipping a switch, or on some pedals, actually hitting a second pedal. this can be cool when you adjust the rate and it changes the pitch - allowing you to tweak out melodies if you wish. I hope I'm explaining that well enough.

anyway, like I said - its not necessary for what I'm looking for, but it can always be a nice bonus!
Kiyoko Wellisch
31.07.2011
If you so can just use a post-fader fx loop and lower the fader to get a "freeze effect"
Kesha Orde
31.07.2011
Isn't it like 'echo freeze'?
Kiyoko Wellisch
31.07.2011
Hold function? What's that?

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