poor vinyl timecode response - Am I expecting too much?
poor vinyl timecode response - Am I expecting too much? Posted on: 18.10.2013 by Valery Ellick I came from vinyl, then controller, and now I'm dabbling with DVS/Scratch... Unfortunately I'm experiencing very poor response from the (MK2) vinyl timecode. I'm attempting to use the same technique I use with vinyl - 'scrape' the beat in time with the live track until I'm ready to release it, release it in time, manually make phase/tempo adjustments. However, the startup after releasing the record is inconsistent at best. As a result, starting the track on beat is impossible. Even when I'm scraping the beat, it doesn't sound like I would expect. It sounds like the needle is jumping around, but it isn't.Are there configuration settings I can tweak or am I expecting too much to hope that DVS response would be nearly identical to vinyl. The latency on my 2011 MacBook is below 10ms, brand new needles, running through my Z2. | |
| Valery Ellick 18.10.2013 | I came from vinyl, then controller, and now I'm dabbling with DVS/Scratch... Unfortunately I'm experiencing very poor response from the (MK2) vinyl timecode. I'm attempting to use the same technique I use with vinyl - 'scrape' the beat in time with the live track until I'm ready to release it, release it in time, manually make phase/tempo adjustments. However, the startup after releasing the record is inconsistent at best. As a result, starting the track on beat is impossible. Even when I'm scraping the beat, it doesn't sound like I would expect. It sounds like the needle is jumping around, but it isn't. Are there configuration settings I can tweak or am I expecting too much to hope that DVS response would be nearly identical to vinyl. The latency on my 2011 MacBook is below 10ms, brand new needles, running through my Z2. |
| Valery Ellick 18.10.2013 | I messed with Snap, Quantize, sample rate, latency and key lock. It ended up being key lock. It sounds much better if I either disable it all together, or change the Key Lock - Mode setting from Normal to Scratch. Thanks for the input. |
| Genoveva Bopp 18.10.2013 | Do you have quantise and snap enabled? |
| Valery Ellick 19.10.2013 | I'll check the sample rate toevening and (attempt to) capture it on video. |
| Alphonso Deitchman 18.10.2013 | 44.1k is the normal sample rate for digital music |
| Evalyn Voges 18.10.2013 | A video might be helpful too. |
| Lannie Kutay 18.10.2013 | 48 sample rate is normal. I use timecode every day, and the accuracy is there. so something is wrong with your setup. Post pics of your timecode calibration animation thing. Also check you TT ground, that wreaks havoc with timecode. |
| Valery Ellick 18.10.2013 | I'll check when I get home. I haven't mucked with it, so it's whatever the default is. What sort of rate should I be looking for? |
| Evalyn Voges 18.10.2013 | That doesn't seem right. What sample rate for the interface? |
| Valery Ellick 18.10.2013 | The timecodes are brand new. The signal sounds fine when it's playing. I can match them up after the sloppy drop-in.....Currently, if I scratched, I believe it would be impossible because of the response. |
| Evalyn Voges 18.10.2013 | I have an older MBP with around 23ms latency and don't notice much difference. Are the timecodes new? Does the signal sound right when you are playing it out? |
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