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DJM 900 Owners... Are you in love with it?
Posted on: 29.05.2012 by Hipolito Scionti
Ok,

So I sold my DJM800 and was gonna / still might get a Rane Empath Rotary... was even believeing a Xone 92 Rotary.

http://community .djranking s.com/showthread.php?t=52288

But I must say I probably can afford the DJM900 and rotary isn't really a deal breaker. After a while I might even attempt this mod.http://community .djranking s.com/showthread.php?t=46378

Is the 900 the tits? Seems to have absolutely everything I want from a mixer.

Haters gonna hate pioneer, but surely even the 900 has got to get props. Nothing wrong with it is there? (other than the price)

Surely it's extremely clean audio as there is minimum A/D D/A conversion

Let me know if you have regrets, crave something else etc...
Danae Dumler
31.05.2012
Originally Posted by MaxOne
Interesting, I believe the knobs feel perfectly fine to me... good if anything. Nice rubber.

I had a go the DB4 and funnily enough really didn't like the feel of the faders at all, or the dry/wet fx buttons and the gap from the unit. The eqs and filters felt really good though. Something about it feels a touch more "flimsy" than the 900. Maybe that is personal preference.

I wish I loved the DB4 as it's clearly the "cooler" of the two mixers... but I believe I just find too many shortcomings with it when comparing pros and cons with 900 and at the price I don't want to find anything missing from my requirements.

I'm believeing of adding some external fx processors (Vermona Action Filter 3 / Maybe a delay pedal/ maybe a RMX-1000) to my set up and the DB4 has no send / return. I know with it's built in fx it doesn't need it but i just didn't find em intuitive though clearly i could have played on it for longer.
Yeah feel is definitely a personal thing. Also, the first time I tried a 900 I liked it a lot more than the other two times. But the latter were club installs that got moved around a lot and beaten up by the time I used them so it's possible I would have liked it better had it not already taken a beating. The knobs themselves felt fine; it was the ergonomics of using the knobs that bugged me though I'm not sure whether it was the spacing between them or what. I also remember believeing the stems felt flimsier than I thought they should though not like they were going to break or anything. I also didn't like the effects knob at the bottom of each channel for some reason; I believe that one is metal instead of rubber but can't remember that well. The other thing I didn't like was the glossy top - something that also bugged me about the Denon X1700; much prefer the matte of Ecler and A+H mixers. But these are minor personal things mostly.

I agree with you on the DB4 faders but don't find Pios any improvement; if anything the glide feels stiffer to me. I much prefer the faders you find on Ecler and Rane products; that's why I put an innofader in my DB4 (and I would likely do the same if I had the pioneer). I like the knobs on the DB4; wish the eq knobs were bigger but I love the dry/wet knobs. The lack of send/return is just lame; hopefully they will fix that in a firmware update (it would be easy to rig and I believe Xonetacular sent them a feature suggestion for it). But yeah it sounds like the 900 meets your requirements a lot more, and Scratch certification is a plus.
Hipolito Scionti
30.05.2012
Originally Posted by oliosky
show me an example where any off the quickly googled "facts" you outline sounds good then? What on earth does "mix changing" mean?


And just a note, I really love the "I'm a know it all cuntbag" tone to all your posts. Makes me feel better about myself when I believe I might be a bit of an asshole online, I just see your asshattery on here and I realise "its coo".
Don't rise to it dude...

Can we seriously not have a discussion on here any more?

@Shishdisma thanks for your input on the 2k but i'm not interested in that mixer. More want to hear from peeps why they dig the 900 and don't want peeps staying out of this thread cause it's a flame war.

Cheers
Johnetta Olewine
30.05.2012
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
So you're basically saying you have no idea what you're talking about? The 2k doesn't has any flashy features over the 900, just more control and comfort. The effects units are relatively the same, trading the useless spiral and melodic with an adjustable gate, and a pulse delay, as well as having a full EQ on the effects, giving you per-band control of the effects sound. The filters are also full 7-5 pots, without that annoying detent in the middle.

If you don't see how the touchscreen useful, if not mix changing, you either have never got to grips with it, or just flat out don't know what it does.
show me an example where any of the quickly googled "facts" you outline above sound good then? What on earth does "mix changing" mean?
Nancey Inderlied
30.05.2012
Originally Posted by oliosky
The DJM2000 is a bit of a white elephant. All bling and no real substance. I'm yet to see anyone do anything remotely good with all the flashy features. And that touchscreen is a massive fail.
So you're basically saying you have no idea what you're talking about? The 2k doesn't has any flashy features over the 900, just more control and comfort. The effects units are relatively the same, trading the useless spiral and melodic with an adjustable gate, and a pulse delay, as well as having a full EQ on the effects, giving you per-band control of the effects sound. The filters are also full 7-5 pots, without that annoying detent in the middle.

If you don't see how the touchscreen useful, if not mix changing, you either have never got to grips with it, or just flat out don't know what it does.
Hipolito Scionti
30.05.2012
Originally Posted by djproben
The knobs look nice but don't feel that great to me compared to nearly every other mixer I've used (I believe only Behringer has felt worse to me). But that's a personal thing.
Interesting, I believe the knobs feel perfectly fine to me... good if anything. Nice rubber.

I had a go the DB4 and funnily enough really didn't like the feel of the faders at all, or the dry/wet fx buttons and the gap from the unit. The eqs and filters felt really good though. Something about it feels a touch more "flimsy" than the 900. Maybe that is personal preference.

I wish I loved the DB4 as it's clearly the "cooler" of the two mixers... but I believe I just find too many shortcomings with it when comparing pros and cons with 900 and at the price I don't want to find anything missing from my requirements.

I'm believeing of adding some external fx processors (Vermona Action Filter 3 / Maybe a delay pedal/ maybe a RMX-1000) to my set up and the DB4 has no send / return. I know with it's built in fx it doesn't need it but i just didn't find em intuitive though clearly i could have played on it for longer.
Johnetta Olewine
30.05.2012
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
If you can put up the extra ~$200-$300 for the 2k, the 2k is infinitely more worth it. The scratch certification is moot, you're going to need a Traktor card anyway unless you only play in the bedroom, and the 2k has an 8-out card for anything but timecode. Virtually every single part of the 2k is more powerful or usable.
The DJM2000 is a bit of a white elephant. All bling and no real substance. I'm yet to see anyone do anything remotely good with all the flashy features. And that touchscreen is a massive fail.
Hipolito Scionti
30.05.2012
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
You mean you hauled your personal mixer into a club setup? Because not every place you play at will have a 900, unless you only play at home (like I said above).
The 900 is showing up a lot now in venues its true. So by having it at home and having all the drivers set up proper it means you don't have to take it with you, you can plug into the clubs 900.

I have an Audio 10 anyway so no biggy.

The 2000 does look like a monster but the 900 would be more than enough for me.
Hipolito Scionti
31.05.2012		The other relatively important thing for me is post fader fx. It annoys me that traktors aren't... And i thought the db4s werent either but maybe they added that to the db4 in a fw update? I know the db2 has post fader fx.

If the db2 had the filters id maybe go for that. The spacing is really nice, very uncluttered.
Danae Dumler
31.05.2012
Originally Posted by MaxOne
Interesting, I believe the knobs feel perfectly fine to me... good if anything. Nice rubber.

I had a go the DB4 and funnily enough really didn't like the feel of the faders at all, or the dry/wet fx buttons and the gap from the unit. The eqs and filters felt really good though. Something about it feels a touch more "flimsy" than the 900. Maybe that is personal preference.

I wish I loved the DB4 as it's clearly the "cooler" of the two mixers... but I believe I just find too many shortcomings with it when comparing pros and cons with 900 and at the price I don't want to find anything missing from my requirements.

I'm believeing of adding some external fx processors (Vermona Action Filter 3 / Maybe a delay pedal/ maybe a RMX-1000) to my set up and the DB4 has no send / return. I know with it's built in fx it doesn't need it but i just didn't find em intuitive though clearly i could have played on it for longer.
Yeah feel is definitely a personal thing. Also, the first time I tried a 900 I liked it a lot more than the other two times. But the latter were club installs that got moved around a lot and beaten up by the time I used them so it's possible I would have liked it better had it not already taken a beating. The knobs themselves felt fine; it was the ergonomics of using the knobs that bugged me though I'm not sure whether it was the spacing between them or what. I also remember believeing the stems felt flimsier than I thought they should though not like they were going to break or anything. I also didn't like the effects knob at the bottom of each channel for some reason; I believe that one is metal instead of rubber but can't remember that well. The other thing I didn't like was the glossy top - something that also bugged me about the Denon X1700; much prefer the matte of Ecler and A+H mixers. But these are minor personal things mostly.

I agree with you on the DB4 faders but don't find Pios any improvement; if anything the glide feels stiffer to me. I much prefer the faders you find on Ecler and Rane products; that's why I put an innofader in my DB4 (and I would likely do the same if I had the pioneer). I like the knobs on the DB4; wish the eq knobs were bigger but I love the dry/wet knobs. The lack of send/return is just lame; hopefully they will fix that in a firmware update (it would be easy to rig and I believe Xonetacular sent them a feature suggestion for it). But yeah it sounds like the 900 meets your requirements a lot more, and Scratch certification is a plus.
Alla Bluemke
30.05.2012		I own a 900 and i love it. I also was stuck between the two but ended up wanting the 900 more. 1st because its form factor was just the perfect set up for home. I mean a 2000 is just wayyyyy too much and the likely hood of me ever seeing a 2000 is a club is nil, where as 900s are showing up more and more. Traktor cert makes it even better in my eyes. Yeah I need a soundcard if I play out with traktor, but honestly, I use my S2 is I plan to play out most the time, although I primarily just use CDs.

Colors effects are extremely useful, and I like the touch strip for a one shot effect at a speed I want. For a building effect with increased rate I tend to still use the buttons but for random roll to give a shot the touch pad is dope. So far I'm not in the least regretting it at all.

Plus my cdjs turn red!
Osvaldo Newhall
30.05.2012		I don't own a DJM-900 but I have used it many times already and I must say I like it very much. I even like better than the DJM-2000 to be honest.
Hipolito Scionti
30.05.2012
Originally Posted by oliosky
show me an example where any off the quickly googled "facts" you outline sounds good then? What on earth does "mix changing" mean?


And just a note, I really love the "I'm a know it all cuntbag" tone to all your posts. Makes me feel better about myself when I believe I might be a bit of an asshole online, I just see your asshattery on here and I realise "its coo".
Don't rise to it dude...

Can we seriously not have a discussion on here any more?

@Shishdisma thanks for your input on the 2k but i'm not interested in that mixer. More want to hear from peeps why they dig the 900 and don't want peeps staying out of this thread cause it's a flame war.

Cheers
Johnetta Olewine
30.05.2012
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
So you're basically saying you have no idea what you're talking about? The 2k doesn't has any flashy features over the 900, just more control and comfort. The effects units are relatively the same, trading the useless spiral and melodic with an adjustable gate, and a pulse delay, as well as having a full EQ on the effects, giving you per-band control of the effects sound. The filters are also full 7-5 pots, without that annoying detent in the middle.

If you don't see how the touchscreen useful, if not mix changing, you either have never got to grips with it, or just flat out don't know what it does.
show me an example where any of the quickly googled "facts" you outline above sound good then? What on earth does "mix changing" mean?
Hipolito Scionti
30.05.2012		I agree that the 2K does give you more control over fx. That is what its all about...

To say it's a white elephant is perhaps a little harsh but I dont believe it's caught on as much as Pioneer would have liked.

Just for me personally it's over kill. I don't need / want that much control over fx.

I mainly use eqs and like that the 900 (as well as the 2000) have isolator eqs
Nancey Inderlied
30.05.2012
Originally Posted by oliosky
The DJM2000 is a bit of a white elephant. All bling and no real substance. I'm yet to see anyone do anything remotely good with all the flashy features. And that touchscreen is a massive fail.
So you're basically saying you have no idea what you're talking about? The 2k doesn't has any flashy features over the 900, just more control and comfort. The effects units are relatively the same, trading the useless spiral and melodic with an adjustable gate, and a pulse delay, as well as having a full EQ on the effects, giving you per-band control of the effects sound. The filters are also full 7-5 pots, without that annoying detent in the middle.

If you don't see how the touchscreen useful, if not mix changing, you either have never got to grips with it, or just flat out don't know what it does.
Hipolito Scionti
30.05.2012
Originally Posted by djproben
The knobs look nice but don't feel that great to me compared to nearly every other mixer I've used (I believe only Behringer has felt worse to me). But that's a personal thing.
Interesting, I believe the knobs feel perfectly fine to me... good if anything. Nice rubber.

I had a go the DB4 and funnily enough really didn't like the feel of the faders at all, or the dry/wet fx buttons and the gap from the unit. The eqs and filters felt really good though. Something about it feels a touch more "flimsy" than the 900. Maybe that is personal preference.

I wish I loved the DB4 as it's clearly the "cooler" of the two mixers... but I believe I just find too many shortcomings with it when comparing pros and cons with 900 and at the price I don't want to find anything missing from my requirements.

I'm believeing of adding some external fx processors (Vermona Action Filter 3 / Maybe a delay pedal/ maybe a RMX-1000) to my set up and the DB4 has no send / return. I know with it's built in fx it doesn't need it but i just didn't find em intuitive though clearly i could have played on it for longer.
Danae Dumler
30.05.2012		The 900 is turning up a lot; I don't even play out much and I've run into it a few times already. I don't like Pioneer gear generally but I can't hate on the 900 - the sound quality is great, the effects are pretty easy to use from what I could tell. I didn't use them much because you really need to practice on a mixer like that before using the effects out or you just sound like crap. I don't particularly like how heavy handed the effects sound; whenever I hear them out I recognize them immediately and it's annoying more than smooth, but I'm sure there are people who have learned how to play them more subtly.

I don't particularly like the feel of the mixer at all though. The knobs look nice but don't feel that great to me compared to nearly every other mixer I've used (I believe only Behringer has felt worse to me). But that's a personal thing.

I also have never used TSP certification on it. I played through an Audio 8 every time because I didn't trust myself to get it working right in time (never had more than a few minutes to set up with it) and didn't want to take the chance.
Johnetta Olewine
30.05.2012
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
If you can put up the extra ~$200-$300 for the 2k, the 2k is infinitely more worth it. The scratch certification is moot, you're going to need a Traktor card anyway unless you only play in the bedroom, and the 2k has an 8-out card for anything but timecode. Virtually every single part of the 2k is more powerful or usable.
The DJM2000 is a bit of a white elephant. All bling and no real substance. I'm yet to see anyone do anything remotely good with all the flashy features. And that touchscreen is a massive fail.
Hipolito Scionti
30.05.2012
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
You mean you hauled your personal mixer into a club setup? Because not every place you play at will have a 900, unless you only play at home (like I said above).
The 900 is showing up a lot now in venues its true. So by having it at home and having all the drivers set up proper it means you don't have to take it with you, you can plug into the clubs 900.

I have an Audio 10 anyway so no biggy.

The 2000 does look like a monster but the 900 would be more than enough for me.
Shantae Faile
30.05.2012		more then 50% of the places i play/have played have a 900 available. maybe is just my area but even one of the smaller bars/clubs by my house has one (definitely did not expect the first time i played there)
Nancey Inderlied
30.05.2012
Originally Posted by Louie_V
how do you figure? I've used the built in sound card many times at some very popular clubs and no problems. Have you used it?
You mean you hauled your personal mixer into a club setup? Because not every place you play at will have a 900, unless you only play at home (like I said above).
Shantae Faile
30.05.2012
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
The scratch certification is moot, you're going to need a Traktor card anyway unless you only play in the bedroom
how do you figure? I've used the built in sound card many times at some very popular clubs and no problems. Have you used it?
Johnsie Kingrea
29.05.2012		Love the 900, post fader delays for scratching on the cross fader. It's awesome
Nancey Inderlied
29.05.2012		If you can put up the extra ~$200-$300 for the 2k, the 2k is infinitely more worth it. The scratch certification is moot, you're going to need a Traktor card anyway unless you only play in the bedroom, and the 2k has an 8-out card for anything but timecode. Virtually every single part of the 2k is more powerful or usable.
Shantae Faile
29.05.2012		Gotta say... as someone who's tried to steer clear of anything labeled pioneer (just so i can feel like i was different) getting the DJM-900 was the best thing i've ever done. I've had my fair share of mixers, and have used many other mixers, but theres nothing like my 900. Its not really that its all that good, i love the color effects, and the fact that when i show up to a gig i no longer have to take a sound card with me, and well lets face it, the thing is everywhere.

Trust me i had a huge dilemma between the 900 and the 2000, and while i kind of wish i had gotten the 2000 the 900 is way better in my eyes because of the traktor certification. I've played with the Rmx-1000 and once its release and i got one i believe ill be good on gear . (still upgrading my cdjs tho)
Noelia Martig
29.05.2012		I am loving my DJM900NXS. Now that I have been using it more and comboing it with Traktor Effects. It's blown my mind what I can do with it. Many of my friends just love coming over to hear me practice. Since I usea lot of efects and 8 beat loops cuts fully utilizing 4 decks. If you plan on getting a 900 and use it with Traktor you wont regret it.
Zonia Provens
29.05.2012		Im going to folow this closely. I was going to get a DJM-900 but a lot of people seem to be pushing more towards the 2000 now.
Addie Engbrecht
29.05.2012		No regrets. It's everything I expected, nothing more/nothing less. There were a couple FX I thought I could really learn to use in my sets and fit in really well that didnt really pan out, but on the flip side, there are some FX that I thought I would never use and now find them very usefull.

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