Keyboard SHIFT for MIDI Contoller
Keyboard SHIFT for MIDI Contoller Posted on: 20.06.2012 by Jerica Salava Is it possible to assign a key on your laptop keyboard (for example the SPACEBAR) that could be utilized as a SHIFT key for your MIDI controller?> | |
| Malissa Mountcastle 20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by faderswagger
The point i was making regarding "the facts", was more to do with what i was saying about NI as a company as a whole. However frustrating the issues with Traktor are, overall they've done so much more to indirectly advance music production, and especially making synthesis more accessible to everyone. Still, no reason to be snarky i guess... And again, i do concede i was wrong about the modifiers To the OP, bearing that in mind, isn't there a button you could sacrifice on your midi controller to act as the modifier toggle? |
| Natalia Bucko 20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Stereo:Type
Lawl okay man, you asked for this. Just to play that-guy-that-apparently-DOES-have-a-pretty-firm-grasp-of-the-facts... No, that doesn't work. Modifiers are, as we already discussed, not global. They are tied to the controller that they are effecting. Try switching the control for one of those "pages" you talked about to a keyboard command. Won't work. Did you not read the previous comments...? The entire thread is about how you can't do the simple thing that you just explained like it was to a five year old. |
| Malissa Mountcastle 20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by faderswagger
It seems unproductive to make unsubstantiated claims about NI without having a full grasp of the facts. Granted they are too quick to release versions without ironing out bugs, but to label them as "painfully bad" seems like quite an overstatement. The last time i checked, Native Instruments had created plugins and software that has completely revolutionised and propelled electronic music and DJ'ing forward... |
| Jerica Salava 20.06.2012 | Is it possible to assign a key on your laptop keyboard (for example the SPACEBAR) that could be utilized as a SHIFT key for your MIDI controller? > |
| Jerica Salava 20.06.2012 |
To the OP, bearing that in mind, isn't there a button you could sacrifice on your midi controller to act as the modifier toggle?
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| Natalia Bucko 20.06.2012 | Don't worry about it. Next time just believe about how we might know what we're talking about here... About Ni... I don't want to get deep into this, but NI has very good design staff. They invent great stuff, it's just that their developershave got to be part of some special education program or something... Were you around for the S4 sound card driver fiasco? for the first six months of it's release, the S4's sound card was basically unusable to 90% of windows users, because the drivers were so broken. Then there's the fact that NI literally just ACTUALLY PLAYED the incompetence card with the remix decks... They blamed the reason that they can't be midi mapped on the fact that the way that the developers built the remix decks was so closely integrated with the hardware of the F1 that they couldn't make it work without it... No developer with a functioning brain would ever even START developing ANYTHING in that way. Plus it was so easy to fix that days before the F1 was even released, community developers had fixed it FOR them without access to the source code These are just two examples. I can go on for days, about how their software is shit both because of the incompetence of their developers, and their atrocious business model, which is now based on only developing their software in ways that will let them sell hardware. |
| Malissa Mountcastle 20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by faderswagger
The point i was making regarding "the facts", was more to do with what i was saying about NI as a company as a whole. However frustrating the issues with Traktor are, overall they've done so much more to indirectly advance music production, and especially making synthesis more accessible to everyone. Still, no reason to be snarky i guess... And again, i do concede i was wrong about the modifiers To the OP, bearing that in mind, isn't there a button you could sacrifice on your midi controller to act as the modifier toggle? |
| Natalia Bucko 20.06.2012 | Told you. |
| Jerica Salava 20.06.2012 | WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!!! |
| Natalia Bucko 20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by Stereo:Type
Lawl okay man, you asked for this. Just to play that-guy-that-apparently-DOES-have-a-pretty-firm-grasp-of-the-facts... No, that doesn't work. Modifiers are, as we already discussed, not global. They are tied to the controller that they are effecting. Try switching the control for one of those "pages" you talked about to a keyboard command. Won't work. Did you not read the previous comments...? The entire thread is about how you can't do the simple thing that you just explained like it was to a five year old. |
| Jerica Salava 20.06.2012 | i will try that. |
| Malissa Mountcastle 20.06.2012 |
Originally Posted by faderswagger
It seems unproductive to make unsubstantiated claims about NI without having a full grasp of the facts. Granted they are too quick to release versions without ironing out bugs, but to label them as "painfully bad" seems like quite an overstatement. The last time i checked, Native Instruments had created plugins and software that has completely revolutionised and propelled electronic music and DJ'ing forward... |
| Malissa Mountcastle 20.06.2012 | Actually you can do this, I have set up 5 "pages" on my F1's midi mode to control track decks, loops and FX You do it using the key on your keyboard to toggle a modifier value. You have to set the toggle manually, like this: (Let's assume you want to use the spacebar as you suggested) Set the spacebar to modifier #1 at value 1 Then also set the spacebar to modifier #1 at value 0 with the condition of modifier #1 = 1 to account for the off state (ie: the "normal page") Now every input and output command you want for your shift page needs to have the condition M1=1 and every command for the normal page needs to have the condition M1=0 You can keep adding "pages" as long as you have modifiers values to spare. (They go up to 7) Hope that helps... |
| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 20.06.2012 | only because you replied faderswagger... "VDJ can do it" variables are set for the entire program or the deck it was activated on not per controller so this would be possible I'm not sure you could do it with midimasher though as it is recognised as a virtual device in traktor the same as a controller, so if you can't do it with just a controller and the keyboard it wouldn't work. but you could set the same global shift over all of your controllers. |
| Natalia Bucko 20.06.2012 | Pretty sure you can do it with midi masher. But yeah... another gaping hole showing us how painfully bad NI is at making software. |
| Jerica Salava 20.06.2012 | shucks. thanks. |
| Charline Dye 20.06.2012 | Not possible. Only a button on the controller can act as a shift for the controller. |
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