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Why should I get a midifighter and what can I do with it?
Posted on: 18.06.2012 by Lessie Becoats
Whats the point of a midifighter? Whats the difference between the different models? What makes them cool?
Evelyn Navarijo
20.06.2012
Originally Posted by Ed Paris
alright! i
Evelyn Navarijo
20.06.2012
Originally Posted by Ed Paris
alright! i
Evelyn Navarijo
20.06.2012
Originally Posted by Ed Paris
alright! i
Evelyn Navarijo
20.06.2012
Originally Posted by Ed Paris
alright! i
Evelyn Navarijo
20.06.2012
Originally Posted by Ed Paris
alright! i
Evelyn Navarijo
20.06.2012
Originally Posted by Ed Paris
alright! i
Evelyn Navarijo
20.06.2012
Originally Posted by Ed Paris
alright! i
Francis Leckliter
21.06.2012
Originally Posted by niftynugget
As far as advantages go over drum pad controllers...one big one is durability. Before i even knew what a MF was I was modding and building arcade sticks, I have tried out lots of buttons from different manufacturers and the Sanwa switches are by far my favorite. They are rated for millions of button activations. Also customization options with colors and such that you wont find elsewhere.

The positives with DJ specific integration- clip launching, effects, beat juggling, etc...the buttons are super responsive with quick activation. Doing multiple presses like triplets and such are super easy. The multitude of mappings and the ability to make your own really lets you customize it to your style of play.

Do these outweigh the cost over a $40 midi drum pad that can be programmed to do basically the same thing and is also velocity sensitive? I believe this is really left up to the individual and their specific situation.
Thanks found that response very helpful! I can imagine how satisfying it would be to press an arcade button, versus my very tight action pads on my mpk49. At the budget level I have yet to find something that consistently responds to my playing style so velocity sensitivity still has to be edited quite often or re-recorded multiple times therefore it's not too great of an advantage for me and I could live without it.
Eleonor Muncie
21.06.2012
Originally Posted by Fraktionz
That's great to know.

My question is what are the advantages of it performance wise over let's say the most basic and cost affordable MPD16, m-audio trigger finger (both available for $40 used), or really even the higher end drum pad controllers?

Is the tacticle satisfaction really great?

I'm wondering what makes it appealing over other similar 4x4 concepts. Seen one weakness with not being sensitivity. Are there any other positives towards tight dj specific integration, and the fact that it just looks so cool.

edit: Not in anyway implying it is a rip off. Not many other controllers in comparable price ranges that I know of that let you customize it and truly send you a product unique to yourself! Props to djranking s on that
As far as advantages go over drum pad controllers...one big one is durability. Before i even knew what a MF was I was modding and building arcade sticks, I have tried out lots of buttons from different manufacturers and the Sanwa switches are by far my favorite. They are rated for millions of button activations. Also customization options with colors and such that you wont find elsewhere.

The positives with DJ specific integration- clip launching, effects, beat juggling, etc...the buttons are super responsive with quick activation. Doing multiple presses like triplets and such are super easy. The multitude of mappings and the ability to make your own really lets you customize it to your style of play.

Do these outweigh the cost over a $40 midi drum pad that can be programmed to do basically the same thing and is also velocity sensitive? I believe this is really left up to the individual and their specific situation.
Evelyn Navarijo
20.06.2012
Originally Posted by Ed Paris
alright! i
Francis Leckliter
19.06.2012
Originally Posted by mfuchs19
No, I was serious. Only buy something that you know you will be able to fully utilize and make great sets with. If you are asking why you should buy one, then you're probably better off with a different piece of kit. When it comes to spending money, the way I look at it is since its my hard earned cash, I only want to buy something if it will totally be worth it for me and if other people have to convince me to get it, then its probably not the right believe. I don't believe your response needed to be as brash as it was. I understand that people may disagree, but I want to know why. I accept that our views differ, but explain to me the way you see it and maybe my opinion will change for the better. I'm always open to new ideas, I just don't like it when people smash other people without explaining themselves. It's a great piece of kit with many uses, but IMO if you have to ask others what you would use it for, you might not need it. Cheers! No hard feelings I hope, just explaining myself.

Yes to only buy something you will fully be able to utilize...but without researching it's not apparent to everyone just by reading specs what applications something may have. I personally have been trying to get into djing/production and have been doing a lot of research over the last half year. There are many things that I didn't even know exist, and many things that I knew existed but had no idea how useful or fun they could be until I asked questions.

I didn't even know how to properly record a guitar on a budget before and was using a quarter inch adapter to a eigth directly into my computer, getting horrible latency and being clueless on what to do to improve it

I did try googling around and researching but thing is I find there's a huge learning curve for this stuff, and lots of the time I don't even know where to begin in the phrasing of my questions in order to find out the answers to them.

Also on gear that I bought for one purpose; ex: novation launchpad for ableton, doing research around and finding a free mapping for traktor which my mind was certainly not creative enough to imagine was definitely fun. A lot of people like getting different perspectives and having their mind open to the potential of gear they might even already have and be using to the fullest according to their knowledge.
Jerlene Jernegan
19.06.2012
Originally Posted by Ed Paris
and this, good sir, is the most stupid answer.
-1000 internets for you!
No, I was serious. Only buy something that you know you will be able to fully utilize and make great sets with. If you are asking why you should buy one, then you're probably better off with a different piece of kit. When it comes to spending money, the way I look at it is since its my hard earned cash, I only want to buy something if it will totally be worth it for me and if other people have to convince me to get it, then its probably not the right believe. I don't believe your response needed to be as brash as it was. I understand that people may disagree, but I want to know why. I accept that our views differ, but explain to me the way you see it and maybe my opinion will change for the better. I'm always open to new ideas, I just don't like it when people smash other people without explaining themselves. It's a great piece of kit with many uses, but IMO if you have to ask others what you would use it for, you might not need it. Cheers! No hard feelings I hope, just explaining myself.
Matt Kane
19.06.2012
Originally Posted by mfuchs19
If you have to ask this question, then you don't need it.
and this, good sir, is the most stupid answer.
-1000 internets for you!
Francis Leckliter
20.06.2012
Originally Posted by niftynugget
It should also be mentioned the buttons are not velocity sensitive...so if you are looking for a drumpad type application this may not be for you. It can be used as one, but it will lack the expression of a dedicated pad. For some people this is a deal breaker.

When i had my S4, the MF+S4 Buddy mapping was a godsend.
That's great to know.

My question is what are the advantages of it performance wise over let's say the most basic and cost affordable MPD16, m-audio trigger finger (both available for $40 used), or really even the higher end drum pad controllers?

Is the tacticle satisfaction really great?

I'm wondering what makes it appealing over other similar 4x4 concepts. Seen one weakness with not being sensitivity. Are there any other positives towards tight dj specific integration, and the fact that it just looks so cool.

edit: Not in anyway implying it is a rip off. Not many other controllers in comparable price ranges that I know of that let you customize it and truly send you a product unique to yourself! Props to djranking s on that
Augustina Zulu
18.06.2012
Originally Posted by Jester.NZ
if you aren't having vivid dream involving you rocking the socks out of a party with one, then its probably not for you
As a child of the 80's arcade generation I can feel this. The form factor alone makes me drool
Pilar Maure
18.06.2012
Originally Posted by Ed Paris
and to deckard0815: if this question give you a reason to consider about leaving, then please feel free to do so. sorry man but it
Francis Leckliter
21.06.2012
Originally Posted by niftynugget
As far as advantages go over drum pad controllers...one big one is durability. Before i even knew what a MF was I was modding and building arcade sticks, I have tried out lots of buttons from different manufacturers and the Sanwa switches are by far my favorite. They are rated for millions of button activations. Also customization options with colors and such that you wont find elsewhere.

The positives with DJ specific integration- clip launching, effects, beat juggling, etc...the buttons are super responsive with quick activation. Doing multiple presses like triplets and such are super easy. The multitude of mappings and the ability to make your own really lets you customize it to your style of play.

Do these outweigh the cost over a $40 midi drum pad that can be programmed to do basically the same thing and is also velocity sensitive? I believe this is really left up to the individual and their specific situation.
Thanks found that response very helpful! I can imagine how satisfying it would be to press an arcade button, versus my very tight action pads on my mpk49. At the budget level I have yet to find something that consistently responds to my playing style so velocity sensitivity still has to be edited quite often or re-recorded multiple times therefore it's not too great of an advantage for me and I could live without it.
Eleonor Muncie
21.06.2012
Originally Posted by Fraktionz
That's great to know.

My question is what are the advantages of it performance wise over let's say the most basic and cost affordable MPD16, m-audio trigger finger (both available for $40 used), or really even the higher end drum pad controllers?

Is the tacticle satisfaction really great?

I'm wondering what makes it appealing over other similar 4x4 concepts. Seen one weakness with not being sensitivity. Are there any other positives towards tight dj specific integration, and the fact that it just looks so cool.

edit: Not in anyway implying it is a rip off. Not many other controllers in comparable price ranges that I know of that let you customize it and truly send you a product unique to yourself! Props to djranking s on that
As far as advantages go over drum pad controllers...one big one is durability. Before i even knew what a MF was I was modding and building arcade sticks, I have tried out lots of buttons from different manufacturers and the Sanwa switches are by far my favorite. They are rated for millions of button activations. Also customization options with colors and such that you wont find elsewhere.

The positives with DJ specific integration- clip launching, effects, beat juggling, etc...the buttons are super responsive with quick activation. Doing multiple presses like triplets and such are super easy. The multitude of mappings and the ability to make your own really lets you customize it to your style of play.

Do these outweigh the cost over a $40 midi drum pad that can be programmed to do basically the same thing and is also velocity sensitive? I believe this is really left up to the individual and their specific situation.
Evelyn Navarijo
20.06.2012
Originally Posted by Ed Paris
alright! i
Latoria Kavulich
19.06.2012		use it as mood lighting
Francis Leckliter
19.06.2012
Originally Posted by mfuchs19
No, I was serious. Only buy something that you know you will be able to fully utilize and make great sets with. If you are asking why you should buy one, then you're probably better off with a different piece of kit. When it comes to spending money, the way I look at it is since its my hard earned cash, I only want to buy something if it will totally be worth it for me and if other people have to convince me to get it, then its probably not the right believe. I don't believe your response needed to be as brash as it was. I understand that people may disagree, but I want to know why. I accept that our views differ, but explain to me the way you see it and maybe my opinion will change for the better. I'm always open to new ideas, I just don't like it when people smash other people without explaining themselves. It's a great piece of kit with many uses, but IMO if you have to ask others what you would use it for, you might not need it. Cheers! No hard feelings I hope, just explaining myself.

Yes to only buy something you will fully be able to utilize...but without researching it's not apparent to everyone just by reading specs what applications something may have. I personally have been trying to get into djing/production and have been doing a lot of research over the last half year. There are many things that I didn't even know exist, and many things that I knew existed but had no idea how useful or fun they could be until I asked questions.

I didn't even know how to properly record a guitar on a budget before and was using a quarter inch adapter to a eigth directly into my computer, getting horrible latency and being clueless on what to do to improve it

I did try googling around and researching but thing is I find there's a huge learning curve for this stuff, and lots of the time I don't even know where to begin in the phrasing of my questions in order to find out the answers to them.

Also on gear that I bought for one purpose; ex: novation launchpad for ableton, doing research around and finding a free mapping for traktor which my mind was certainly not creative enough to imagine was definitely fun. A lot of people like getting different perspectives and having their mind open to the potential of gear they might even already have and be using to the fullest according to their knowledge.
Jerlene Jernegan
19.06.2012
Originally Posted by Ed Paris
and this, good sir, is the most stupid answer.
-1000 internets for you!
No, I was serious. Only buy something that you know you will be able to fully utilize and make great sets with. If you are asking why you should buy one, then you're probably better off with a different piece of kit. When it comes to spending money, the way I look at it is since its my hard earned cash, I only want to buy something if it will totally be worth it for me and if other people have to convince me to get it, then its probably not the right believe. I don't believe your response needed to be as brash as it was. I understand that people may disagree, but I want to know why. I accept that our views differ, but explain to me the way you see it and maybe my opinion will change for the better. I'm always open to new ideas, I just don't like it when people smash other people without explaining themselves. It's a great piece of kit with many uses, but IMO if you have to ask others what you would use it for, you might not need it. Cheers! No hard feelings I hope, just explaining myself.
Jerica Salava
19.06.2012		You can also map it to a DAW and us it like Maschine.
Matt Kane
19.06.2012
Originally Posted by mfuchs19
If you have to ask this question, then you don't need it.
and this, good sir, is the most stupid answer.
-1000 internets for you!
Jerlene Jernegan
19.06.2012		If you have to ask this question, then you don't need it.
Francis Leckliter
20.06.2012
Originally Posted by niftynugget
It should also be mentioned the buttons are not velocity sensitive...so if you are looking for a drumpad type application this may not be for you. It can be used as one, but it will lack the expression of a dedicated pad. For some people this is a deal breaker.

When i had my S4, the MF+S4 Buddy mapping was a godsend.
That's great to know.

My question is what are the advantages of it performance wise over let's say the most basic and cost affordable MPD16, m-audio trigger finger (both available for $40 used), or really even the higher end drum pad controllers?

Is the tacticle satisfaction really great?

I'm wondering what makes it appealing over other similar 4x4 concepts. Seen one weakness with not being sensitivity. Are there any other positives towards tight dj specific integration, and the fact that it just looks so cool.

edit: Not in anyway implying it is a rip off. Not many other controllers in comparable price ranges that I know of that let you customize it and truly send you a product unique to yourself! Props to djranking s on that
Eleonor Muncie
19.06.2012		It should also be mentioned the buttons are not velocity sensitive...so if you are looking for a drumpad type application this may not be for you. It can be used as one, but it will lack the expression of a dedicated pad. For some people this is a deal breaker.

When i had my S4, the MF+S4 Buddy mapping was a godsend.
Freida Leash
19.06.2012		I really like mine... When I got set up with a two channel controller, now mapped to four channels, I was longing for something to aid in controlling the extra features of traktor. I'm running the Deckalized Instant Gratification hybrid mapping most of the time, the rest of the time is a basic four deck cue point juggling map. The Deckalized Instant Gratification map allows me to cue point juggle and control effects on one deck at a time, which goes a long way to adding things like accapellas chopped up, or create a build up, stagger the beat using the beat masher on a loop that I'm continuously mixing, as well as have a gater, distortion, filter sweep, and echo freeze effect at my finger tips. Really powerful and expressive with great response time, I can always hit the 1/4 or 1/8 note I'm aiming to grab, when I can't it is me having an off day.
I was missing buttons in my gear, the MF classic has a bunch of them in a small space, so it solved a bunch of issues with one piece of kit. I play doubles of a track a lot to make a live remix, which I wouldn't be doing with as much control with out it. I can't see a way to be dropping Devo into drum and bass with out it, a ton of fun.
I'm a fanboy though, and it was what was missing in a digital set up for me. Your mileage may vary, or it may influence your style.
Augustina Zulu
18.06.2012
Originally Posted by Jester.NZ
if you aren't having vivid dream involving you rocking the socks out of a party with one, then its probably not for you
As a child of the 80's arcade generation I can feel this. The form factor alone makes me drool
Pilar Maure
18.06.2012
Originally Posted by Ed Paris
and to deckard0815: if this question give you a reason to consider about leaving, then please feel free to do so. sorry man but it
Latoria Kavulich
18.06.2012		if you aren't having vivid dream involving you rocking the socks out of a party with one, then its probably not for you
Jerica Salava
18.06.2012		the buttons are the best buttons for triggering and the new 3D model adds a cool original performance feature.
Maricruz Mouw
18.06.2012		i find more and more the new members of these community are quick to say "no need to be an ass; no need to be a douche". this must be the 3rd thread today I've read a new member saying it.

google was made for a reason, ya know.
Dante Heineke
18.06.2012
I've looked around on the web, I was just wondering the opinion of people. And way to be a douche, thats the point of community s, to ask questions.
Didn't mean to sound harsh, it's just that your question could have been... better phrased? What I mean is, you should have asked for opinions explicitly, because it sounded like you were asking us to tell you what the store already says. Still, I answered your question kindly.

After 8 posts im pretty certain "daggett" isnt familiar with how community s work
The fact that I'm not an active poster on this community doesn't mean I'm not active on others.
Matt Kane
18.06.2012		alright! i
Augustina Zulu
18.06.2012
Originally Posted by deckard26354
Questions like these are starting to make me consider leaving this community .
It's a legit open ended question from someone who doesn't have a MF. As someone with a maschine I wouldnt mind hearing the answers. I can't imagine doing anything with it that I can't do with maschine.
Loralee Erban
18.06.2012		After 8 posts im pretty certain "daggett" isnt familiar with how community s work..... its basically a 16pad midi controller that you can map how you want that uses arcade buttons.... back when the midi fighter came out it was new and fun (a lot of people got one to support the website). I personally dont see how it would benifit my setup any different to my korg nano pad as with the right mapping it can do most things I need it to...... the midi fighter 3d I could see being interesting if you are a top class dj or doing a dj battle but the average club dj looks and sounds like a fucking idiot when overly using fx but at the same time its down to personal preference really.
Lessie Becoats
18.06.2012		I've looked around on the web, I was just wondering the opinion of people. And way to be a douche, thats the point of community s, to ask questions.
Dante Heineke
18.06.2012		Because they are a matrix of buttons, so you can do whatever you want with them! (If you know how to program your midi in your software, of course). Typical uses are triggering clips, samples, cue points or instant effects (the original mapping even had combos, if you pressed some buttons in order, you would trigger a different effect).
You could, for example, set a row on Traktor with different beat-repeat speeds, or gates, and glitch with that. You could map it to the echo freeze, and use it as a quick exit from a track.

About the models, basically:

MF: Basic button matrix.
MFP: MF + Faders/Knobs/Buttons (Depending on wich one)
MF3D: Added RGB button rings, accelerometers (so you can map the unit's tilt) and a bank function (4 in total).

Next time do your research yourself, we are not you own personal wikipedia or customer support. Go to YouTube and watch some examples... Hell, even the store page has a video showing what it is and what you can do!
Pilar Maure
18.06.2012
Originally Posted by Fressure
Whats the point of a midifighter? Whats the difference between the different models? What makes them cool?
Questions like these are starting to make me consider leaving this community .

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