Legendary Berlin Clubs Face Closure (in correlation to the gema thread)

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Legendary Berlin Clubs Face Closure (in correlation to the gema thread)
Posted on: 07.07.2012 by Matt Kane
read this:

http://thequietus.com/articles/09272...hain-watergate

Tesha Freudenstein
08.07.2012
Originally Posted by Ed Paris
let
Matt Kane
08.07.2012
Originally Posted by Grifff
This is really sad news. I've always wanted to go to see the clubbing scene in Berlin, especially the Berghain and the Love Parade. I was obviously saddened by the news a few years ago that the Love Parade would cease to exist, and now this. I would save up and go there in the autumn, but I have next years tuition fee to pay for, so it's looking unlikely that this will happen
let
Matt Kane
08.07.2012
Originally Posted by 1mco
Get it over it.
Originally Posted by 3heads
Fuck off!
+1
yo 1mco! what is problem? imagine this would happen in your country. and also this problem could not only affect the scene in germany but as well the techno scene world wide since there is a lot of stuff developing/progressing/going on over here. so please just shut up or say something that doesn
Romelia Stankard
08.07.2012
Originally Posted by djproben
That's right! The only thing that works is changing the color of your twitter avatar
Hey I changed my facebook cover photo to be anti-SOPA and signed an online petition and SOPA died. Coincidence? I believe not.
Danae Dumler
08.07.2012
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
Online petitions don't do anything
That's right! The only thing that works is changing the color of your twitter avatar
Romelia Stankard
08.07.2012
Originally Posted by Era 7
i hope all of you signed the petition that has been going on
Online petitions don't do anything, people need to organize a protest or something and call their government representatives (or however it works over there).
Tesha Freudenstein
08.07.2012
Originally Posted by Ed Paris
let
Matt Kane
08.07.2012
Originally Posted by Grifff
This is really sad news. I've always wanted to go to see the clubbing scene in Berlin, especially the Berghain and the Love Parade. I was obviously saddened by the news a few years ago that the Love Parade would cease to exist, and now this. I would save up and go there in the autumn, but I have next years tuition fee to pay for, so it's looking unlikely that this will happen
let
Matt Kane
08.07.2012
Originally Posted by 1mco
Get it over it.
Originally Posted by 3heads
Fuck off!
+1
yo 1mco! what is problem? imagine this would happen in your country. and also this problem could not only affect the scene in germany but as well the techno scene world wide since there is a lot of stuff developing/progressing/going on over here. so please just shut up or say something that doesn
Celestine Porebski
08.07.2012
Originally Posted by ksandvik
That's so simpleminded, GEMA wants to protect the artist royalties and kills one of the few revenue streams EDM producers have...
And to make it more absurd: they are not even protecting anything in the electronic music scene as the money is distributed according to chart positions and radio airplay and stuff like that. So the money generated in techno clubs (where most of the music from smaller independent labels is not even represented by GEMA at all) is given to some cheesy commercial fuckheads that already have too much money to begin with. And you can not appropriately battle this, as there is the so-called "GEMA assumption", i.e. you have to proove that you do not play GEMA protected music rather than them having to proove the opposite. It's really a giant pile of shit and the article in the original post only touches on a few of the issues (they for example also just increased the fees imposed on memory sticks/cards - from 0,10€ to 0,91€ for less than 4GB and 1,95€ on larger ones). It's really one of those subjects were even chill dudes like me can develop quite some aggressive potential (did I mention they spend 120.000.000€ each year for administrative purposes?).

But I'm convinced in the end they are gonna back away from their preposterous claims and some sort of compromise is gonna be made (or their stupid monopoly is finally broken, but I don't even dare to wish for something that great). Club culture will continue to exist and those GEMA idiots will pet themselves on the backs stating how fairly they were treating and negotiating with club owners and the likes.

For the German speaking crowd, read this interview if you haven't already (but try to keep only stuff near that you don't mind to be broken, spontaneous outbursts of aggression are quite likely) http://www.berliner-zeitung.de/kultu...,16452772.html

Originally Posted by 1mco
Get it over it.
Fuck off!
Matt Kane
08.07.2012		that
Matt Kane
07.07.2012		read this:

http://thequietus.com/articles/09272...hain-watergate

Romelia Stankard
08.07.2012
Originally Posted by djproben
That's right! The only thing that works is changing the color of your twitter avatar
Hey I changed my facebook cover photo to be anti-SOPA and signed an online petition and SOPA died. Coincidence? I believe not.
Danae Dumler
08.07.2012
Originally Posted by Xonetacular
Online petitions don't do anything
That's right! The only thing that works is changing the color of your twitter avatar
Romelia Stankard
08.07.2012
Originally Posted by Era 7
i hope all of you signed the petition that has been going on
Online petitions don't do anything, people need to organize a protest or something and call their government representatives (or however it works over there).
Tesha Freudenstein
08.07.2012
Originally Posted by Ed Paris
let
Random X
08.07.2012		Yeah, talking about Love Parade, I wanted to visit that after the MIDIFight Club. At the end of Saturday I was glad we decided not to go, as that this was the last episode.
Matt Kane
08.07.2012
Originally Posted by Grifff
This is really sad news. I've always wanted to go to see the clubbing scene in Berlin, especially the Berghain and the Love Parade. I was obviously saddened by the news a few years ago that the Love Parade would cease to exist, and now this. I would save up and go there in the autumn, but I have next years tuition fee to pay for, so it's looking unlikely that this will happen
let
Kassandra Guthmiller
08.07.2012		This is really sad news. I've always wanted to go to see the clubbing scene in Berlin, especially the Berghain and the Love Parade. I was obviously saddened by the news a few years ago that the Love Parade would cease to exist, and now this. I would save up and go there in the autumn, but I have next years tuition fee to pay for, so it's looking unlikely that this will happen
Random X
08.07.2012		@3heads:
No I get it why pictures of Gaby Schilcher were posted that much.
Matt Kane
08.07.2012
Originally Posted by 1mco
Get it over it.
Originally Posted by 3heads
Fuck off!
+1
yo 1mco! what is problem? imagine this would happen in your country. and also this problem could not only affect the scene in germany but as well the techno scene world wide since there is a lot of stuff developing/progressing/going on over here. so please just shut up or say something that doesn
Celestine Porebski
08.07.2012
Originally Posted by ksandvik
That's so simpleminded, GEMA wants to protect the artist royalties and kills one of the few revenue streams EDM producers have...
And to make it more absurd: they are not even protecting anything in the electronic music scene as the money is distributed according to chart positions and radio airplay and stuff like that. So the money generated in techno clubs (where most of the music from smaller independent labels is not even represented by GEMA at all) is given to some cheesy commercial fuckheads that already have too much money to begin with. And you can not appropriately battle this, as there is the so-called "GEMA assumption", i.e. you have to proove that you do not play GEMA protected music rather than them having to proove the opposite. It's really a giant pile of shit and the article in the original post only touches on a few of the issues (they for example also just increased the fees imposed on memory sticks/cards - from 0,10€ to 0,91€ for less than 4GB and 1,95€ on larger ones). It's really one of those subjects were even chill dudes like me can develop quite some aggressive potential (did I mention they spend 120.000.000€ each year for administrative purposes?).

But I'm convinced in the end they are gonna back away from their preposterous claims and some sort of compromise is gonna be made (or their stupid monopoly is finally broken, but I don't even dare to wish for something that great). Club culture will continue to exist and those GEMA idiots will pet themselves on the backs stating how fairly they were treating and negotiating with club owners and the likes.

For the German speaking crowd, read this interview if you haven't already (but try to keep only stuff near that you don't mind to be broken, spontaneous outbursts of aggression are quite likely) http://www.berliner-zeitung.de/kultu...,16452772.html

Originally Posted by 1mco
Get it over it.
Fuck off!
Brunilda Kora
07.07.2012
Well, I'm guessing illegal raves will start taking place more and more.
Best thing that could possibly happen. Get all the try hard of the scene.
Alfred Takala
07.07.2012		Get it over it.
Celine Surico
07.07.2012		That's so simpleminded, GEMA wants to protect the artist royalties and kills one of the few revenue streams EDM producers have...
Random X
07.07.2012		Don't forget to bring your Batman's Super B Thermal Underwear!
Matt Kane
07.07.2012		gonna be hard in the wintertime but during spring/summer we have like 2-3 illegal technoparties in the woods, under bridges etc. every weekend so we are trained in guerilla party tactics
Random X
07.07.2012		Well, I'm guessing illegal raves will start taking place more and more.
(Back to the old school)
Matt Kane
08.07.2012		that
Random X
07.07.2012		Blogging it on dutch digital dj community(digidj.nl) as we speak.

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