Dear members who suffer from tinnitus
Dear members who suffer from tinnitus Posted on: 11.07.2012 by Georgianna Eurick Today I got the bad news and I need your suggestions maybe comforting words. The ringing noise at my right ear canal is killing me. I will go to another doctor in my hometown and see what he's going to say.I usually can't sleep without listening to music from my iPod. Although yesterday evening I've listened only half-volume (soft techno tunes) today the ringings goes berserk. I'm using in-ear headphones (seenheisser cx300). Does that mean I have to get rid of them? Even though I did good in the hearing exam problems I have a huge fear losing my hearing (or partially) I was producing from studio headphones, from now on I guess I gotta stick to the monitors, to ease up the pressure to my ear? I had a foam ear plug (-33 db), I tried it it sounded ok with my headphones. Should I drain my bank account to get a custom-molded IEM or should I go with ear-plugs + headphones during upcoming gigs? Is getting a custom-molded IEMs are good investment? Damn I feel so miserable | |
| Layne Koop 20.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by DennisHuiberts
I tried the "masking sound" approach when I first noticed the ringing. It's OK. But over time I found the noise approach to be more annoying. AND my wife wasn't a fan of the noise either. At the suggestion of my ENT, I switched to using Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction techniques. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mindful...ress_reduction In short, it is a process of using meditation to focus on the ringing, and then learning to ignore the sound. It sounds a little wacky at first, but it really does work. |
| Layne Koop 12.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by KS2
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| Celine Surico 11.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by KS2
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| Latina Samon 11.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by ksandvik
I've never worn ear plugs whilst listening to music out, I imagine it's not as enjoyable? Obviously worth it though. I'd definitely wear them if I was DJing out. |
| Celine Surico 11.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by KS2
You could also get tinnitus from unexpected sources like eating too much Ibuprofen and similar NSAIDs (what I found out a month ago, ack.), as a side effect from allergies, naturally born thin ear canals, high blood pressure, too much of milk products, too much of natural sweeteners like aspartame (Nutrasweet et rest..) and other unexpected sources. In this later part, let the body heal and stay away from such products and there's a good chance tinnitus will go away. As for hearing loss tinnitus, that today incurable, only thing I know of is to learn to live with as most rock musicians have learned the hard way. In the early days you could just try to avoid loud noises to let the ears relax and that might solve the problem, but if you then continue with loud noises again, the effect will accelerate on top of earlier damage. As a musician and/or DJ, the ears are our main instruments so we better take care of them. It's a no brainer to use musician earplugs or otherwise not use loud volumes in studio if that's not needed. |
| Lashawn Maycock 11.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by ksandvik
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| Layne Koop 11.07.2012 | The standard advice is to "cover" the ringing with more noise. I tried that, but over time I found it to be more disruptive to sleeping than the ringing. After a lot of searching, I stated using some meditation techniques to clear my mind and actively "ignore" the noise. The "Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction" describes the technique. I heard about it on an NRP about a year ago.... http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2011...lear-your-mind The custom molded plugs are worth the $$$. I went to my local audiologist to have mine fitted. It was the same price as getting the home kit. I can wear them under headphones, and just turn up the monitor volume a little. I use the 15dB filters.
Originally Posted by ThinkAboutIt
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| Layne Koop 20.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by DennisHuiberts
I tried the "masking sound" approach when I first noticed the ringing. It's OK. But over time I found the noise approach to be more annoying. AND my wife wasn't a fan of the noise either. At the suggestion of my ENT, I switched to using Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction techniques. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mindful...ress_reduction In short, it is a process of using meditation to focus on the ringing, and then learning to ignore the sound. It sounds a little wacky at first, but it really does work. |
| Consuelo Lene 17.07.2012 | oh thats a bad thing... i wish you could have a good health soon... take rest and follow the doctor prescription. |
| Sally Walkowiak 17.07.2012 | I got it from swimming in a pool.... You learn to live with it, but the first few weeks can be very rough. What really sucks though for me, is that I can no longer lay on my left side and watch a movie or tv, as my right ear (the affected ear) is a bit muffled, and simply will not hear higher frequencies such as a hi-hat. |
| Germaine Bernadin 13.07.2012 | Oh I feel for you. I've been djing since 1992. Never had a problem. I listen to music very low when not playing out in the clubs as to save my ears. |
| Shantae Faile 12.07.2012 | Get youself a good set of alpine plugs. I'm actually trying to convince my boss that we need to start selling these believes up at the front registers. I got a pair and on the days that i remember to put them in i actually feel better. |
| Neal Rayome 12.07.2012 | I'm suffering from tinnitus for quite some years now and I want to share some of my knowledge and experience. My tinnitus is present since a few years, but at one moment, it increased a lot. Fought a lot with depressions and such and decided at one time to quit making music, not go to parties and keep the music listening to an absolute minimum (time and volume wise). This made it even worse. Music was, and is, a big part of my life and such drastic changes didn't help me at all. I talked a lot with my E.N.T. specialist ("ear doctor") and he told me that these drastic life changes are not the way to go. The controversial thing about tinnitus is, is that it is caused AND cured by sound/music. People with tinnitus know what I mean, because background noise or music masks the ringing in the ears. I also asked him about treatments and diet changes. Tinnitus gets worse when you're experiencing high blood pressure in the ears. Things like salt, caffeine etc. increases blood pressure. So I asked my physician if it would help to change my diet to stay clear from these substances. His answer was: "no more than with other people". Everyone needs a proper diet, but don't expect life changing results when you turn into a health guru. So the key word to cope with tinnitus is moderation. Don't let fear be the main argument for life changing decisions! I can't stress this enough! The quicker you accept this, the quicker you get on the road to dealing with tinnitus. Depression increases the tinnitus also, so do the things that make you happy and make you enjoy life. If listening to music makes you happy, I would encourage everybody with tinnitus to listen to music instead of banning it completely (with moderation ofcourse). For future parties/gigs, custom mold earplugs are a real life saver. I use custom molded Etymotic earplugs with the ER-25 dB filters and a evening out is not a dealbreaker for my ears anymore. They're also good for performing, although I prefer in ears (personal choice though). I hope this helps anybody. |
| Layne Koop 12.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by KS2
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| Bunny Sockel 12.07.2012 | My dad was a drummer and he has tinnitus. When I told him that I wanted to be a DJ the first thing he said is that tomorrow I'm buying you earplugs and after reading some of the horror story's of tinnitus I am so thankful that he has bought them for me. |
| Georgianna Eurick 12.07.2012 | @zimfella thank you man i'm also going to a specialist when I'll go back home. See what he says @dj gullum thank I hope I won't have to @soundinmotiondj thansk for the info @backtothefront thank you man I also had those "scares" a lot of time but the problem was I didn't know that they can be permanent. Wish I knew it before @KS2 I didn't get it from my headphones but after the diagnosis I don'2t know if it's psychological or what but the ringing have increased just for listening to music even half-volume. @dope thanks man that's really reassuring now I'm taking the medicals that the doctor gave me relax my ears hopefully it will be gone or decrease in time |
| Celine Surico 11.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by KS2
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| Latina Samon 11.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by ksandvik
I've never worn ear plugs whilst listening to music out, I imagine it's not as enjoyable? Obviously worth it though. I'd definitely wear them if I was DJing out. |
| Kasi Marget 11.07.2012 | Didn't read the full thread but to the OP : After going to a Skrillex afterparty (where he had the good idea to put a DJM style super high pass filter full of resonance on Ruffneck) i had a tinnitus in my left ear (closest to the speakers). It lasted for 3 weeks, and now it's gone. When I believe about it/talk about it, i feel that my damaged ear is different from the other one. I'm not sure if it's real, mechanical, or psychological. But I don't have any ringing beep, or maybe a super low one that does not prevent me from living my normal life, sleeping etc. I hope it's reassuring. Next time don't forget custom-made earplugs. |
| Celine Surico 11.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by KS2
You could also get tinnitus from unexpected sources like eating too much Ibuprofen and similar NSAIDs (what I found out a month ago, ack.), as a side effect from allergies, naturally born thin ear canals, high blood pressure, too much of milk products, too much of natural sweeteners like aspartame (Nutrasweet et rest..) and other unexpected sources. In this later part, let the body heal and stay away from such products and there's a good chance tinnitus will go away. As for hearing loss tinnitus, that today incurable, only thing I know of is to learn to live with as most rock musicians have learned the hard way. In the early days you could just try to avoid loud noises to let the ears relax and that might solve the problem, but if you then continue with loud noises again, the effect will accelerate on top of earlier damage. As a musician and/or DJ, the ears are our main instruments so we better take care of them. It's a no brainer to use musician earplugs or otherwise not use loud volumes in studio if that's not needed. |
| Latina Samon 11.07.2012 | Didn't even realise you could get it from headphones to be honest. Always associated it with events. |
| Lashawn Maycock 11.07.2012 |
Originally Posted by ksandvik
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| Celine Surico 11.07.2012 | ..hope others will take notice so they don't get into this situation... |
| Layne Koop 11.07.2012 | The standard advice is to "cover" the ringing with more noise. I tried that, but over time I found it to be more disruptive to sleeping than the ringing. After a lot of searching, I stated using some meditation techniques to clear my mind and actively "ignore" the noise. The "Mindfulness Based Stress Reduction" describes the technique. I heard about it on an NRP about a year ago.... http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2011...lear-your-mind The custom molded plugs are worth the $$$. I went to my local audiologist to have mine fitted. It was the same price as getting the home kit. I can wear them under headphones, and just turn up the monitor volume a little. I use the 15dB filters.
Originally Posted by ThinkAboutIt
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| Ashanti Andreacchio 11.07.2012 | I've had it for years now destroy my ears over a period of years playing in Death/trash Metal bands. It's not boddering me anymore as I've got used to it. Sometimes when it really quiet around me it can start to anoy me again. Your brain will eventyaly filter it out as it trains to listen to things that matter. Most people that have eaiconditions installed will after a time not hear them running as it becomes background noise you like Tinnitus will over time. |
| Hanna Ridenbaugh 11.07.2012 | I'm in the same boat as you bro, got a specialist checking out my ears next week. 3 years now it's killing me. wish you all the best dude, your not alone. |
| Georgianna Eurick 11.07.2012 | Thanks for your great wishes. I had to take a break from production to rest my ears a bit, at least until I consult to another doctor. This is awful since I was fully concentrated on it. |
| Erich Vallabhaneni 11.07.2012 | damn deep shit here. Sorry about the big T, hope it gets better. I use these when needed http://www.musiciansfriend.com/acces...cone-ear-plugs but these look interesting http://www.musiciansfriend.com/acces...olded-earplugs |
| Viviana Tarno 11.07.2012 | I'd say: watch out with any type of headphones/earplugs for listening music. They fatigue and damage your ears sooner than you'd expect. And let your ears rest now. Don't go to any parties whatsoever for some weeks, and only listen music by earphones on a very low volume. The ringing may die down a bit then over a while. On the longer run, how hard it may be, you'll get used to it. Sort of. I know the feeling bro. I have tinnitus as well, in both ears. Have it for over 3 years now. At all of the bigger parties/festivals I went to since it began, it got worse, whatever kind of earplugs I wore. I have custom made earplugs, but I don't trust them anymore. Basically, I just totally renounced attending any other festival in my life just for not damaging my hearing any further. |
| Maryland Garciasanchez 11.07.2012 | fingers crossed it does go pal. i don't know whether it is 12 or 20. but i can vouch for them being a good aid in helping save your hearing. but your right, custom moldes will almost certainly offer you better protection. what ever you do, hope you get the trouble with your ears sorted.... good luck |
| Brinda Tidrick 11.07.2012 | Custom molded earplugs are amazing. I was lucky enough to get a free pair as part of my old job about 2 years back and they've probably got another 2-3 years left in them if I look after them. Having said this they are only about |
| Georgianna Eurick 11.07.2012 | Thank you man I hope so but honestly I don't expect it to go away. But yeah positive believeing. Yeah I've seen that plugs couple of times here in the community I don't know why the brand is not popular here in Vienna. I guess my ear canal is a bit smaller than average (don't know for sure but) so it would be much better to look at it rather than buying it from Amazon. One thing i didn't get though is at the product features it says the noise reduction is -12 but at the product description -20. Which one is true? I'm guessing -12 is not enough for some cases. |
| Maryland Garciasanchez 11.07.2012 | I feel for you man, hope it goes away. i use these, they arnt that expensive, and they arnt top end gear but they work. you will never see me DJing with out them:- http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Resea...ews/B0044DEESS they take a bit of getting use too. the first few monthinto my residancy, and i was going home and my ears where ringing for hours on end. i play 3-4 times a week, not including the time i spend mixing at home, so i decieded to try these out as they fairly cheap, and they have great reviews. i can honestly say my ears have never rung since.....best few |
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