Mixing Music for a school Dance..

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Mixing Music for a school Dance..
Posted on: 23.07.2012 by Daine Ziadeh
Hey guys, today i was asked by my friends to make a mix for a school dance or showoff idk how to call it, well i'm stuck in transitioning between Skrillex - Bangarang to Chris Brown - Turn up the music, what techniques do people use to do this? it's 110 BPM and 130 BPM and you know that it can be a mix, it must be like a cut from one to another but since it's such a drastic change idk what to do, any opinions?

I'm doing it in ableton and i know my way around it..so you can go straight into the technical terms :P
Christel Croak
26.07.2012
Originally Posted by JulianVeloso
did you freeze with a delay or froze with the reverb?
Freeze with the delay, I'm using this exact mapping on my lpd8, except for the delay I made the tail a little bit longer.

Shonda Soulier
26.07.2012
Originally Posted by elio_xh
Ya it was kind of sloppy, but the whole point of it was that it works live because the people I played it for knew the first song so they were singing along with it and then they just got really excited to hear the next one. It's weird... you really can't teach this stuff online. Only doing it live and experimenting gives you a true feel.
Oh no dude, yours was great! I liked that a lot and I do kinda the same thing with the drama build and echo freeze.

My comment was to the OP. If you know Ableton, build some custom transitions using BPM automation. I've done a few this way.
Daine Ziadeh
26.07.2012
Originally Posted by elio_xh
Ya it was kind of sloppy, but the whole point of it was that it works live because the people I played it for knew the first song so they were singing along with it and then they just got really excited to hear the next one. It's weird... you really can't teach this stuff online. Only doing it live and experimenting gives you a true feel.
This wasnt so bad dude..i must say it was a nice transition, did you freeze with a delay or froze with the reverb?
Daine Ziadeh
23.07.2012
Originally Posted by DJKyleHughes
I'd love to hear it. (Not being sarcastic)
Samee
Noriko Lebowitz
23.07.2012
Originally Posted by elio_xh
I just dropped it, because if you start playing the second song after you freeze the first track, the sweep has a delay on fx slot 3, and the phase of the delay will sync up with whatever song is playing, so it sounds much smoother. It's a nice little thing built into Traktor. If you'd like I can do a little mix of it now to illustrate, but it'll be a rough mix with the keyboard because I sold my S4
I'd love to hear it. (Not being sarcastic)
Christel Croak
23.07.2012
Originally Posted by JulianVeloso
Question, after you built up the reverb and froze it, you just dropped party rock? Or you were beatmatching it along with the tempo raise on that reggueton?
I just dropped it, because if you start playing the second song after you freeze the first track, the sweep has a delay on fx slot 3, and the phase of the delay will sync up with whatever song is playing, so it sounds much smoother. It's a nice little thing built into Traktor. If you'd like I can do a little mix of it now to illustrate, but it'll be a rough mix with the keyboard because I sold my S4
Daine Ziadeh
23.07.2012
Originally Posted by elio_xh
Yep, at a sweet 16 once. The girl asked for the weirdest selection of music, ranging from Top 40 to spanish music to dubstep. I practised the transition for a while before doing the gig, to make sure I had it down but this is basically what I did:

It was a spanish song into Party rock anthem (96 bpm to 128 bpm). The spanish song had the following phrase, and I looped the brackets, "Por que (paso paso)" Then I brought the tempo up and used the transpose stretch effect. At 128 I started using the armyofme sweep effect except I made the tail on the reverb tail longer, and then I froze it after building up. Party rock anthem started with the chords.

It worked well for me because they were familiar with both songs, so when the loop of the first song was going they were all singing along with it.
Question, after you built up the reverb and froze it, you just dropped party rock? Or you were beatmatching it along with the tempo raise on that reggueton?
Celine Surico
23.07.2012
Originally Posted by elio_xh
If the transition is done right, I feel it could work. I would do it as a build up. Get a small loop, bring up the tempo and the pitch to the desired speed, then leave the kick at that tempo and continue raising the pitch.
Ever tried it with crowd? Curious.
Warner Rotberg
26.07.2012
Do it live with mix in/out markers
Warner Rotberg
26.07.2012
Loop it to 1/8 - 1/16 immediately after something notable happens in the song and echo/delay it out almost immediately, so the volume fades down and its just echos in the background always dropping volume and bring in something notable of the next track.
Ardell Lafranchi
26.07.2012
One of my main techniques is to loop a certain 4 beat sequence in bangerang into 2 then 1 then half then 1/4th into 1/8th delay filter into break down or 4 beats before the climax of chris brown song
Christel Croak
26.07.2012
Originally Posted by JulianVeloso
did you freeze with a delay or froze with the reverb?
Freeze with the delay, I'm using this exact mapping on my lpd8, except for the delay I made the tail a little bit longer.

Shonda Soulier
26.07.2012
Originally Posted by elio_xh
Ya it was kind of sloppy, but the whole point of it was that it works live because the people I played it for knew the first song so they were singing along with it and then they just got really excited to hear the next one. It's weird... you really can't teach this stuff online. Only doing it live and experimenting gives you a true feel.
Oh no dude, yours was great! I liked that a lot and I do kinda the same thing with the drama build and echo freeze.

My comment was to the OP. If you know Ableton, build some custom transitions using BPM automation. I've done a few this way.
Daine Ziadeh
26.07.2012
Originally Posted by elio_xh
Ya it was kind of sloppy, but the whole point of it was that it works live because the people I played it for knew the first song so they were singing along with it and then they just got really excited to hear the next one. It's weird... you really can't teach this stuff online. Only doing it live and experimenting gives you a true feel.
This wasnt so bad dude..i must say it was a nice transition, did you freeze with a delay or froze with the reverb?
Christel Croak
26.07.2012
Ya it was kind of sloppy, but the whole point of it was that it works live because the people I played it for knew the first song so they were singing along with it and then they just got really excited to hear the next one. It's weird... you really can't teach this stuff online. Only doing it live and experimenting gives you a true feel.
Shonda Soulier
26.07.2012
So if you know your way around Ableton, you could always premake a transition like this one:

http://www.clubedits.com/product.php?productid=21322

But I'd venture to say that if you're playing those two tracks back to back nobody at that dance will notice a sloppy transition
Christel Croak
26.07.2012
Here's the example, I'll try the one with Bangarang too
http://soundcloud.com/elioxh/dj-ranking s-tempo-transition
Daine Ziadeh
23.07.2012
Originally Posted by DJKyleHughes
I'd love to hear it. (Not being sarcastic)
Samee
Noriko Lebowitz
23.07.2012
Originally Posted by elio_xh
I just dropped it, because if you start playing the second song after you freeze the first track, the sweep has a delay on fx slot 3, and the phase of the delay will sync up with whatever song is playing, so it sounds much smoother. It's a nice little thing built into Traktor. If you'd like I can do a little mix of it now to illustrate, but it'll be a rough mix with the keyboard because I sold my S4
I'd love to hear it. (Not being sarcastic)
Christel Croak
23.07.2012
Originally Posted by JulianVeloso
Question, after you built up the reverb and froze it, you just dropped party rock? Or you were beatmatching it along with the tempo raise on that reggueton?
I just dropped it, because if you start playing the second song after you freeze the first track, the sweep has a delay on fx slot 3, and the phase of the delay will sync up with whatever song is playing, so it sounds much smoother. It's a nice little thing built into Traktor. If you'd like I can do a little mix of it now to illustrate, but it'll be a rough mix with the keyboard because I sold my S4
Jerica Salava
23.07.2012
This is the best way. I know it's TRAKTOR NOT ABLETON. I am sure you can figure out how to do it it Ableton.


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Celine Surico
23.07.2012
Long time ago I did similar experiments raising BPM 20 steps or more between transitions with drum beats on both tracks, was not a pretty sigh. Learned a lesson or two from that.

However, if you use a freeze reverb (which I suggested early on) with no tempo around, filter, and kick the next thing in, that should be fine.
Daine Ziadeh
23.07.2012
Originally Posted by elio_xh
Yep, at a sweet 16 once. The girl asked for the weirdest selection of music, ranging from Top 40 to spanish music to dubstep. I practised the transition for a while before doing the gig, to make sure I had it down but this is basically what I did:

It was a spanish song into Party rock anthem (96 bpm to 128 bpm). The spanish song had the following phrase, and I looped the brackets, "Por que (paso paso)" Then I brought the tempo up and used the transpose stretch effect. At 128 I started using the armyofme sweep effect except I made the tail on the reverb tail longer, and then I froze it after building up. Party rock anthem started with the chords.

It worked well for me because they were familiar with both songs, so when the loop of the first song was going they were all singing along with it.
Question, after you built up the reverb and froze it, you just dropped party rock? Or you were beatmatching it along with the tempo raise on that reggueton?
Christel Croak
23.07.2012
Yep, at a sweet 16 once. The girl asked for the weirdest selection of music, ranging from Top 40 to spanish music to dubstep. I practised the transition for a while before doing the gig, to make sure I had it down but this is basically what I did:

It was a spanish song into Party rock anthem (96 bpm to 128 bpm). The spanish song had the following phrase, and I looped the brackets, "Por que (paso paso)" Then I brought the tempo up and used the transpose stretch effect. At 128 I started using the armyofme sweep effect except I made the tail on the reverb tail longer, and then I froze it after building up. Party rock anthem started with the chords.

It worked well for me because they were familiar with both songs, so when the loop of the first song was going they were all singing along with it.
Celine Surico
23.07.2012
Originally Posted by elio_xh
If the transition is done right, I feel it could work. I would do it as a build up. Get a small loop, bring up the tempo and the pitch to the desired speed, then leave the kick at that tempo and continue raising the pitch.
Ever tried it with crowd? Curious.
Christel Croak
23.07.2012
Originally Posted by ksandvik
I would like to see the dance crowd when the BPM increases 20 values in a minute...
If the transition is done right, I feel it could work. I would do it as a build up. Get a small loop, bring up the tempo and the pitch to the desired speed, then leave the kick at that tempo and continue raising the pitch.
Daine Ziadeh
23.07.2012
http://soundcloud.com/martinsolveig/...gs-radio-smash I Would like something like what happens at 46:20, where he slows both songs and then drops skrillex in for the kill...Any effect vst to reproduce this?

I got Effectrix, it's got a vinyl stop, but the effect there it's like affecting both songs and slowly bringing one out of the vinyl stop..
Celine Surico
23.07.2012
Originally Posted by DJKyleHughes
Loop a section of bangarang and keep making it faster until the bpm matches with the chris brown tune. Then drop the chris brown into the loop and slowly fade out skrillex.
I would like to see the dance crowd when the BPM increases 20 values in a minute...
Daine Ziadeh
23.07.2012
I usually do really sick mashups in ableton, but i'm not used to this song cuts straight into other genres, I don't even like Chris Brown or this top 40 style of music..
Noriko Lebowitz
23.07.2012
Loop a section of bangarang and keep making it faster until the bpm matches with the chris brown tune. Then drop the chris brown into the loop and slowly fade out skrillex.
Minda Verges
23.07.2012
You could always you use a delay and raise the bpm and play the other song. Maybe use a beat repeat, set on 1 bar?
Daine Ziadeh
23.07.2012
Problem is songs have already been chosen, so i can't decide what to use to suit my transition better..
Minda Verges
23.07.2012
The way I do it, is find a song with a build up, and as soon as the slower song is ending cut the low n it and begin raising the bpm while fading in/out both of the songs.
Celine Surico
23.07.2012
Big BPM changes means a more abrupt transition. Use a non-drum sequence, crank up reverb and filter out the first track and let the other one start. Or millions of similar transition ideas.

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