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Behringer DDM4000 Mixer questions.
Posted on: 05.04.2012 by Jodi Bookout
I am currently a NS6 user and love it btw. I have wanted to move into using a mixer and cdj's and even get my feet wet with turntables. I have been comparing prices and value then trying to decide what I am willing to spend on gear. I keep coming back to the Behringer DDM4000 for what it does and what it costs seems like a great mixer. With that said I am open to suggestion. I want something that is midi capable that is my only requirement.

With that said I also want to know if there is somewhere I can go to read about turntables and different types of CDJ's I know those are two different worlds. I don't have the cash to throw down on Pioneer's CDJ's or I would. I don't know really what to look for in a CDJ type device. And when it comes to turntables I am lost don't know what to look for. I guess I get this crazy feeling just believeing about going to the local music store and buying records...... that's my big attraction to turntables and just being able to mix using them would make me feel multifaceted. I appreciate any input.
Roseanna Signorini
17.05.2012
Originally Posted by D-Kem
As with all gear if the user feels comfy using it and it works then all good.
I would sell a kidney for one of these....http://www.electronique-spectacle.com/djr400.php

Stuff like that does nothing for me, especially for $2600
Roseanna Signorini
16.05.2012
Originally Posted by D-Kem
I agree that all gear needs to be flight cased and looked after but Behringer has a terrible reputation for build on all products. On the road your gear has to work and I wouldn't take that chance personally. I also really care about sound quality and believe the extra spent on an A&H is well worth it. A mixer is a serious investment and as Steven says it will most likely work for a couple of years max so the value is questionable. BTW Hi Steven, will pop in soon.
Dylan.
There is no denying their rep for DJ products isn't the greatest but I believe they have significantly upped their game the last few years. You can't attribute their lower price totally on build quality as Begringer owns their own factory which keeps costs down. All gear in this day and age with effects processors, and bpm counters should be babied. I had a gemini mixer that I bought in 1989 that honestly I beat to death, never had a case, would stick it sideways in a crate and the thing lasted me for 9 years until I plugged it in at a gig and I heard zzzz zzzz zzzzzzzPOP!! and smoke came out of the channel 3 fader. Gemini has a rep for not being so good but it lasted 9 years of beatings before it gave out. Same with Numark. People look down on these companies now like they are subpar but for a long time Numark and Gemini were it when it came to DJ gear.
Janyce Henningson
16.05.2012
Originally Posted by Louie_V
i owned 3 of them...
Says it all really
Roseanna Signorini
16.05.2012
Originally Posted by D-Kem
Should be fine for use at home.

I wouldn't trust any Behringer product on the road though.
If you take proper care of your gear , get the proper case for the gear if you are taking it for mobile gigs, then you won't have a problem. I use mine out all the time, haven't had 1 issue with it. The DDM4000 has been out now for a few years, read the reviews, there is a gazillion of them and you may find 3 bad reviews out of every 50. Just because something doesn't have the overpriced pioneer stamp, or Denon or A&H, doesn't mean its not to be trusted. Its like saying I am only going to buy a mercedes because its the best and anything not in the upper echelon of auotmobiles is not to be trusted.
Jodi Bookout
15.05.2012
Originally Posted by dj matt blaze
you want to do a straight up trade NS6 for a DDM4000?
Not quite there would be money or something else to supplement the difference. I like my NS6 but want a new workflow.
Janyce Henningson
14.05.2012
Originally Posted by dj matt blaze
thats really a controller....ddm4000 is a straight up mixer that will allow you to section off areas for midi control
Yep you're right - I should read the op properly..
Roseanna Signorini
13.05.2012
Originally Posted by Nicky H
I'd go for this if your budget won't stretch to a Denon / Pioneer / A&H

http://www.decks.co.uk/products/stanton/scs1m

One on eBay B-Stock for
Tobi Rabuse
29.07.2012
I don't really believe I will ever move to CDJ's unless I am ever able to afford the top product (which is highly unlikely at this point and time). I just believe digital DJing is more efficient in terms of visuals and memory. Then again, I always route through an Analog Mixer (DJM-900) because I prefer it to the Digital Mixer in Traktor. There's just so many more things able to be done digitally and so many more controller options.

In saying that, I really do want to purchase some Technics and get scratching.
Brunilda Kora
29.07.2012
The DDM4000 is a mixer you have to spend time with. Too many folks want something that works out of the box (Traktor Vs. VDJ8), but you're not gonna get that with a DDM4K.

But once you've learned that thing inside out, and and have learned to live with the elements that you don't particularly LOVE, the usablity of the thing is amazing.

We're never gonna see a mixer that we all agree on 100%. Until Pio make that 4ch scratch certified beast beast w/in-built RMX5000, VST hosting capabilities auto-train wreck prevention...
Danae Dumler
28.07.2012
Like others said, great bang for the buck, but plan on buying something better when you have the cash. It's a lotta mixer for a little money - you can probably pick up a used one for $200 these days, and you get four channels, midi options, some OK effects (most of them are meh and even the good ones are a pain in the ass to use because of the shitty interface, but if you pick one or two you like and stick with them - save them in memory and load them every goddamn time you turn the thing on - it's fine). Sound quality is decent (but stay away from the stupid "ultramiserizer" or whatever the hell it is; it's just a compressor that makes everything sound louder for no reason), build quality is slightly better than you would expect for the price but still not what I would call professional. Plastic clunky knobs and faders, it just feels cheap using it. It's not going to fall apart on you though if you don't abuse it. If you scratch you're going to want to mod or replace the fader; I did a ghetto mod on mine with a piece of hard plastic and some duct tape and it was definitely usable. Sampler section is a complete waste of electricity; use that for your midi stuff if you have any sense. I found the kill switches useless and poorly placed but I didn't accidentally hit them as much as I thought I would so I guess they're not hurting anyone, and some people seem to like them. EQ section buttons are a little confusing but it's just a quirk; it has options that are probably worth experimenting with but I never bothered, heh. And as others said, headphone placement is just stupid and there's way too many buttons. MIDI in and out is really nice if you want to sync with other hardware; keep in mind that it's not a proper soundcard though so you can't just connect up through USB without a soundcard (in fact, there's no USB at all, so spend ten bucks on a MIDI to USB adapter, which will work just fine).

I enjoyed having the mixer for a while but found it more frustrating than enjoyable; in the end it just made me resolve even more to spend my life savings on a mixer that goes to 11.
Babette Poppiti
28.07.2012
One of the best DJ mixers released in recent times for me - so many features packed into such a small price with decent build quality - there's some other good feedback here too - http://www.gear -dj.com/behringe...rs/ddm4000.php
Roseanna Signorini
17.05.2012
Originally Posted by D-Kem
As with all gear if the user feels comfy using it and it works then all good.
I would sell a kidney for one of these....http://www.electronique-spectacle.com/djr400.php

Stuff like that does nothing for me, especially for $2600
Lauretta Ehrhorn
16.05.2012
As with all gear if the user feels comfy using it and it works then all good.
I would sell a kidney for one of these....http://www.electronique-spectacle.com/djr400.php
Roseanna Signorini
16.05.2012
Originally Posted by D-Kem
I agree that all gear needs to be flight cased and looked after but Behringer has a terrible reputation for build on all products. On the road your gear has to work and I wouldn't take that chance personally. I also really care about sound quality and believe the extra spent on an A&H is well worth it. A mixer is a serious investment and as Steven says it will most likely work for a couple of years max so the value is questionable. BTW Hi Steven, will pop in soon.
Dylan.
There is no denying their rep for DJ products isn't the greatest but I believe they have significantly upped their game the last few years. You can't attribute their lower price totally on build quality as Begringer owns their own factory which keeps costs down. All gear in this day and age with effects processors, and bpm counters should be babied. I had a gemini mixer that I bought in 1989 that honestly I beat to death, never had a case, would stick it sideways in a crate and the thing lasted me for 9 years until I plugged it in at a gig and I heard zzzz zzzz zzzzzzzPOP!! and smoke came out of the channel 3 fader. Gemini has a rep for not being so good but it lasted 9 years of beatings before it gave out. Same with Numark. People look down on these companies now like they are subpar but for a long time Numark and Gemini were it when it came to DJ gear.
Janyce Henningson
16.05.2012
Originally Posted by Louie_V
i owned 3 of them...
Says it all really
Lauretta Ehrhorn
16.05.2012
I agree that all gear needs to be flight cased and looked after but Behringer has a terrible reputation for build on all products. On the road your gear has to work and I wouldn't take that chance personally. I also really care about sound quality and believe the extra spent on an A&H is well worth it. A mixer is a serious investment and as Steven says it will most likely work for a couple of years max so the value is questionable. BTW Hi Steven, will pop in soon.
Dylan.
Shantae Faile
15.05.2012
i owned 3 of them... Great mixer, should be in the hall of fame for bang for buck'ness.... Being said... they can become problematic, but nothing that would keep me from performing. go for it, but plan on eventually moving up...
Lu Wubbenhorst
15.05.2012
I have to agree with oldtimer, lots of features that other mixers dont have out there at a great price - however that price is the lack of build quality. Although the ddm did me well for a couple of years i have to say.

If you want something rock solid build at a cheaper price check the Reloop mixers out. Great build, sound and affordable!
Trista Karle
15.05.2012
Why not use your ns6 ? Just curious it works great as a mixer. I route my one laptop through the 2 channels and use my total control to control traktor
Roseanna Signorini
16.05.2012
Originally Posted by D-Kem
Should be fine for use at home.

I wouldn't trust any Behringer product on the road though.
If you take proper care of your gear , get the proper case for the gear if you are taking it for mobile gigs, then you won't have a problem. I use mine out all the time, haven't had 1 issue with it. The DDM4000 has been out now for a few years, read the reviews, there is a gazillion of them and you may find 3 bad reviews out of every 50. Just because something doesn't have the overpriced pioneer stamp, or Denon or A&H, doesn't mean its not to be trusted. Its like saying I am only going to buy a mercedes because its the best and anything not in the upper echelon of auotmobiles is not to be trusted.
Jodi Bookout
15.05.2012
Originally Posted by dj matt blaze
you want to do a straight up trade NS6 for a DDM4000?
Not quite there would be money or something else to supplement the difference. I like my NS6 but want a new workflow.
Roseanna Signorini
14.05.2012
you want to do a straight up trade NS6 for a DDM4000?
Jodi Bookout
14.05.2012
Now If I could find someone with one that wants to trade for a NS6......... I believe I am sold. Just need to find the right way to get one.
Janyce Henningson
14.05.2012
Originally Posted by dj matt blaze
thats really a controller....ddm4000 is a straight up mixer that will allow you to section off areas for midi control
Yep you're right - I should read the op properly..
Arnoldo Amlong
14.05.2012
I have just upgraded from DDM4000 (which is now my back up) to a DJM 700. I've played clubs, parties and out door festival whith the 4000 and people have been shocked when they've come to look my set over. Ok the sound quality isn't as crisp as the 700 the configuration on the 4000 is mind blowing, the kill button are a great feature and can be incorporated in the efx, I've never had a problem with the mic output, I have a 5000 watt rig and the 4000 rocks a mean bass line. The one con, most people will say this, is the head phone socket position but I solved it with some sticky cable ties to to guide the head phone cabel to prevent it moving the crossfader.
If you're on a budget(or not) it's a mixer not to be over looked
Lauretta Ehrhorn
14.05.2012
Should be fine for use at home.

I wouldn't trust any Behringer product on the road though.
Roseanna Signorini
13.05.2012
Originally Posted by Nicky H
I'd go for this if your budget won't stretch to a Denon / Pioneer / A&H

http://www.decks.co.uk/products/stanton/scs1m

One on eBay B-Stock for
Janyce Henningson
14.05.2012
I'd go for this if your budget won't stretch to a Denon / Pioneer / A&H

http://www.decks.co.uk/products/stanton/scs1m

One on eBay B-Stock for
Lawana Spratlen
13.05.2012
I bought one, few issues with one of the effect on/off buttons that has seemed to sort itself out! wouldnt use one in a club install but for home use they are a bargain. go for it!
Roseanna Signorini
12.05.2012
I have owned a DDM4000 for 2 1/2 years, best money I ever spent. I have had no problems with the build quality. When someone always says something like that I swear I believe people abuse their gear , the thing is pretty solid and can do amazing things. I use Traktor in external mode and have decks A & B on seperate channels and Decks C & D as sample decks on the same channel. I use the crossfader section and the sampler section for midi control in Traktor. The effects are really good even though the only effect I use is the echo since I have a whole array of effects in Traktor. Headphone jack placement never bothers me, the chord just hangs off the side. I say buy it, you won't regret it.
Jacqulyn Erbst
12.05.2012
i got one for sale!! JS
Lela Umanskaya
12.05.2012
Originally Posted by DJ ATX
The mic inputs are horrible. Feedbacks,
Feedback is operator error.
Julia Hillock
12.05.2012
i bought one of these just 2 months ago, attracted by it's many features and the incredibly
low price. i spent a couple of days watching/reading many reviews and have to say i rarely
came across any really bad ones. the headphone socket placement is mentioned a few times,
but for me, the really important point is it's build quality. this is my first ever Behringer product
and it will be the last. don't get me wrong, i'm having fun with it. i don't use the midi mapping
so can't comment on any of that. the fx are ok, however a little awkward switching between
them. but, after fairly little use (maybe 5 - 10 hours a week max) already the pots and faders
are feeling 'less solid' than they did out of the box. i appreciate all products 'wear' eventually,
but so soon? this is where i imagine Behringer have gained their reputation for inferior build
on many if not all of their products.
Teodoro Woolever
05.04.2012
I own a DDM4000 and used it for 1.5yrs gigging out. It is now my back up mixer since I upgraded to a Denon DNX1600.

I gotta tell ya. It is more bang for your buck than any mixer out there. The effects bank is just awesome!! Being able to assign it to any channel. Having full freq kill buttons next to the faders is so much more convenient when you are mixing. Being able to program settings and save em is good too. Although, you do have to load em everytime you power up. I wish Behringer found a way not to only store it, but keep the last settings used. The sound coming out is good, not great. You have XLR master and booth outs which works well in a club environment. It is also MIDI cable and fairly easy to map in Serato and VDJ. I found it to be a pain with Traktor though.

OK the bad things about it.
The mic inputs are horrible. Feedbacks, sound is awful on a club system with high volume.
Too many damn buttons. I believe I only used like 30% of all the functions on that mixer. It can get confusing for a beginner I believe.
The headphone jack is in the middle right of the mixer. If you move to your left, the headphone cable tend to catch on the cross fader and depending on how far you move, it can move the crossfader when you don't really want to. Awful placement.
Jodi Bookout
05.04.2012
Thanks for the link Ashi
Patty Mcgilbra
05.04.2012
you can check the ddm 4000 review and a few CDJ / TT reviews on www.djworx.com for starters, should give you some good iput on what to look for

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