Beatgridding with tick in Traktor 2.5 issue

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Beatgridding with tick in Traktor 2.5 issue
Posted on: 13.06.2012 by Birdie Vogeli
Hi,

Since the update to 2.5, I'm having problems setting beatgrids with the metronome in Traktor.

I route the monitor output to my headphones and enable tick in the master section to manually beatgrid tracks by ear. Since the 2.5 update, moving the beatgrid no longer affects the sound output when the track is played. I have to stop the track and then start it again to hear the changes. I.e. if a beatgrid is perfectly set and I move it offbeat, the tick will still play in sync until I stop the track and start it again. Then it will sound terrible.

It also seems the tick not always play in sync with the track, regardless of the beatgrid. Starting and stopping the track a few times helps, but it seems unreliable.

Changing between sync modes BeatSync and TempoSync doesn't seem to matter. Anybody else experiencing the same issue?
Lucy Wehri
02.08.2012
Originally Posted by MozMorris
This is the bug.

Master Tick works, that's obvious. But it doesn't sync when moving the beat grid.
For me it never synced "live" when moving the beatgrid (2.1.3), so I don't do it that way.
First I use tempo bend like you would do when beatmatching (Sync is on), then with the help of the beat phase monitor I move my beatgrid in order to get the beat phase to zero.
I've never noticed the beat tick button in the grid panel, I will try it toevening with the direct beatgrid move to see if I can do this with one less step.
Giuseppe Arios
02.08.2012
Originally Posted by trux
is it only when you are moving the beatgrid left/right in small increments, or does it also happen when changing the bpm? sounds like it is a bug.
It only happens when moving the beatgrid left/right in small increments. I've only noticed this in 2.5 & 2.5.1. In 2.1.3 it works as expected.

As mentioned previously, using the 'Beat Tick' (small headphone button on the grid panel) it works as expected, so thanks for someone pointing that out. I'd been using Ean's tutorials and he always used the Master Tick.
Giuseppe Arios
02.08.2012
Originally Posted by firebr4nd
Master tick is working for me but I have to start/stop a song to get the tick in sync with the grid again. It won't change on the fly for me.
This is the bug.

Master Tick works, that's obvious. But it doesn't sync when moving the beat grid.
Ulysses Vittetoe
14.06.2012
Originally Posted by rgtb
Been there forever lol. The tick in the master panel is a novelty of tp2
Wait, why would it be a novelty? It's so useful for beatgridding tracks.
Leeanna Ayla
13.06.2012
Originally Posted by Xtian317
Can anyone (else) confirm this? Of all the 2.5 threads, this is the first I've seen about the tick/master.
Yeah I plan on checking it when i go home for lunch because this is the first I've heard of it as well.
Valery Ellick
13.06.2012
Originally Posted by Lundmark
Glad I found the other tick, because the master no longer works properly in Traktor 2.5 for beatgridding.
Can anyone (else) confirm this? Of all the 2.5 threads, this is the first I've seen about the tick/master.
Birdie Vogeli
13.06.2012
GOT IT!

There's a change in Traktor 2.5. The tick is now in the beatgrid section. No more using the master tick.

t2_gridding_with_tick.jpg
Birdie Vogeli
13.06.2012
Hi,

Since the update to 2.5, I'm having problems setting beatgrids with the metronome in Traktor.

I route the monitor output to my headphones and enable tick in the master section to manually beatgrid tracks by ear. Since the 2.5 update, moving the beatgrid no longer affects the sound output when the track is played. I have to stop the track and then start it again to hear the changes. I.e. if a beatgrid is perfectly set and I move it offbeat, the tick will still play in sync until I stop the track and start it again. Then it will sound terrible.

It also seems the tick not always play in sync with the track, regardless of the beatgrid. Starting and stopping the track a few times helps, but it seems unreliable.

Changing between sync modes BeatSync and TempoSync doesn't seem to matter. Anybody else experiencing the same issue?
Giuseppe Arios
02.08.2012
In case anyone is confused about the process, DJ Endo here....

explains the Beatgridding process. For me, this method no longer works on 2.5 and above.
Lucy Wehri
02.08.2012
Originally Posted by MozMorris
This is the bug.

Master Tick works, that's obvious. But it doesn't sync when moving the beat grid.
For me it never synced "live" when moving the beatgrid (2.1.3), so I don't do it that way.
First I use tempo bend like you would do when beatmatching (Sync is on), then with the help of the beat phase monitor I move my beatgrid in order to get the beat phase to zero.
I've never noticed the beat tick button in the grid panel, I will try it toevening with the direct beatgrid move to see if I can do this with one less step.
Giuseppe Arios
02.08.2012
Originally Posted by trux
is it only when you are moving the beatgrid left/right in small increments, or does it also happen when changing the bpm? sounds like it is a bug.
It only happens when moving the beatgrid left/right in small increments. I've only noticed this in 2.5 & 2.5.1. In 2.1.3 it works as expected.

As mentioned previously, using the 'Beat Tick' (small headphone button on the grid panel) it works as expected, so thanks for someone pointing that out. I'd been using Ean's tutorials and he always used the Master Tick.
Lorri Bobar
01.08.2012
i use master tick to beatgrid, and it seems to be working fine in traktor 2.5.

minor caveat, i have a button on a midi controller with the assigned command to 'adjust phase to tempo offset', which quickly moves the beat grid to zero out any phase offset (as opposed to clicking the move beat grid button a billion times)

doing it this way doesn't cause the master tick to go out of sync, so i haven't yet noticed the sync issue you mention and will try that - is it only when you are moving the beatgrid left/right in small increments, or does it also happen when changing the bpm? sounds like it is a bug.
Giuseppe Arios
02.08.2012
Originally Posted by firebr4nd
Master tick is working for me but I have to start/stop a song to get the tick in sync with the grid again. It won't change on the fly for me.
This is the bug.

Master Tick works, that's obvious. But it doesn't sync when moving the beat grid.
Ulysses Vittetoe
14.06.2012
Originally Posted by rgtb
Been there forever lol. The tick in the master panel is a novelty of tp2
Wait, why would it be a novelty? It's so useful for beatgridding tracks.
Ulysses Vittetoe
14.06.2012
Master tick is working for me but I have to start/stop a song to get the tick in sync with the grid again. It won't change on the fly for me.
Tyra Labrecque
14.06.2012
Yeah, I had the same problem. Used the master tick. After update it was abit out of wack. Never noticed the other tick option.
Ellyn Zbranek
14.06.2012
You have me doubting myself now. I beatgridded 40 tracks for a show on Friday using the master tick with Traktor 2.5. It definitely seemed to move when I moved the grid though.
Leeanna Ayla
13.06.2012
Master tick works fine for me in 2.5.
Leeanna Ayla
13.06.2012
Originally Posted by Xtian317
Can anyone (else) confirm this? Of all the 2.5 threads, this is the first I've seen about the tick/master.
Yeah I plan on checking it when i go home for lunch because this is the first I've heard of it as well.
Valery Ellick
13.06.2012
Originally Posted by Lundmark
Glad I found the other tick, because the master no longer works properly in Traktor 2.5 for beatgridding.
Can anyone (else) confirm this? Of all the 2.5 threads, this is the first I've seen about the tick/master.
Birdie Vogeli
13.06.2012
I've always used the master tick because that's what tutorials said, like this one. http://www.djranking s.com/2012/04/2...s-eans-method/

Glad I found the other tick, because the master no longer works properly in Traktor 2.5 for beatgridding.
Birdie Vogeli
13.06.2012
Alrighty. Then the question is rather why the master tick has stopped working for this purpose.
Leeanna Ayla
13.06.2012
Been there Since at least 2.0, and I believe even earlier than that.
Kristofer Krauel
13.06.2012
Yeah pretty sure you've always had the 2 options. Although you've got me questioning myself now!!
Birdie Vogeli
13.06.2012
Really? Wow. I've always been using the master tick and it worked before, but not anymore. Guess Ean's tutorials aren't exactly accurate then
Kristofer Krauel
13.06.2012
That pic shows where it has always been.
Birdie Vogeli
13.06.2012
GOT IT!

There's a change in Traktor 2.5. The tick is now in the beatgrid section. No more using the master tick.

t2_gridding_with_tick.jpg

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