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using krk's for 5.1 surround sound Posted on: 02.08.2012 by Marguerite Truka Hi guys im looking at completing my home cinema setup with 4 krk rp8s a rp10 and a krk sub. I am wondering the best way to manage these speakers. got a htpc running ubuntu 30meg install and xbmc so wanna finish it off with amazing sound
Romelia Stankard 03.08.2012	Originally Posted by M.Beijer there is no solution for using powered speakers with "surround sound". To do this you need a multicannel receiver which handles the signal processing. http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio..._u/?mode=model this would work any receiver that has pre-amp outs will work as it send individual line outs for use with external amps or in this case powered speakers.
Danae Dumler 02.08.2012	Originally Posted by Xonetacular I would still probably just get a used home theater setup yep. I understand what you're describing but it seems like a ton of work and a lot of cables to get it going; just to watch movies?? I just run a single optical cable to my amp, that carries the surround sound info from my computer and then the amp distributes things accordingly through less obtrusive speaker cables, and it's a lot easier to get the volumes balanced appropriately through the amp. There are some soundcards with digital outs capable of this too if you don't have one on your computer (m-audio transit does this simply and cheaply); the number of soundcards I can believe of with that many regular outputs is not that large.
Romelia Stankard 02.08.2012	Originally Posted by djproben Yeah I'd seriously go the amp and speakers setup rather than having six separate powered monitors. But it looks like KRK recommends their VXTs (not the Rokits) for this purpose - http://www.krksys.com/manuals/vxt/vxt_manual.pdf - what I don't understand is how they balance things for true surround sound. Maybe it's just my ignorance but as I see it, you don't want all frequencies coming out of all speakers. You want the information appropriately separated; that's why I assumed you were looking for a software solution. But if you don't have a surround amp and you don't have software doing it, how do the speakers know which one is responsible for center, which ones are rear, etc.? Is there hardware that does this for krks? In any case I agree with the above poster, though you can do this for a lot cheaper than B+W or Martin Logans will set you back. Get a Harmon/Kardon or Marantz or Onkyo surround amp off craigslist for a couple hundred and some klipsch or infinity speakers that were actually designed for surround sound. You would have a soundcard with more than stereo output (for 5.1 you need 6 outs) and whatever DAW you are using you would setup for surround coming from multiple soundcard outs and you would use a surround mixer. You could do it with any speakers really- rokkits would be fine. Whether or not using krk rokkits is an ideal solution I don't know but it's not the worst idea I've ever heard. For all intents and purposes they are just decent powered bookshelf speakers and hardly monitors which is why people love them for DJing, I don't believe most of the warnings about using monitors for things other than monitoring really apply to them here. edit: you need a home theater receiver with pre-amp outs to connect to powered speakers I would still probably just get a used home theater setup instead.
Monique Swanier 02.08.2012	Originally Posted by tombruton69 I might look into what cinemas use. I wasnt talking about software wen i said about bass managment. its hardware based it is what krk reccomend for using these in 5.1. Why are you so dead set on using studio monitors? Do you even realize how massive these are?
Monique Swanier 02.08.2012	Originally Posted by tombruton69 Hi guys im looking at completing my home cinema setup with 4 krk rp8s a rp10 and a krk sub. I am wondering the best way to manage these speakers. got a htpc running ubuntu 30meg install and xbmc so wanna finish it off with amazing sound Also Amazing sound ISN'T always 5.1
Romelia Stankard 03.08.2012	Originally Posted by M.Beijer there is no solution for using powered speakers with "surround sound". To do this you need a multicannel receiver which handles the signal processing. http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio..._u/?mode=model this would work any receiver that has pre-amp outs will work as it send individual line outs for use with external amps or in this case powered speakers.
Mimi Mahaffee 03.08.2012	there is no solution for using powered speakers with "surround sound". To do this you need a multicannel receiver which handles the signal processing. if you want something better than the shite they sell at huge markets you should have a look at pioneer, yamaha, onkyo, arcam or integra for the receiver bit. ofcourse alot of speakerbrands will be good to combine with them but some speakerbrands which i like above others is audiovector, dynaudio, b&w, canton(not neutral, warm sound in the cantons). go to a serious hifidealer and listen!
Danae Dumler 02.08.2012	Originally Posted by Xonetacular I would still probably just get a used home theater setup yep. I understand what you're describing but it seems like a ton of work and a lot of cables to get it going; just to watch movies?? I just run a single optical cable to my amp, that carries the surround sound info from my computer and then the amp distributes things accordingly through less obtrusive speaker cables, and it's a lot easier to get the volumes balanced appropriately through the amp. There are some soundcards with digital outs capable of this too if you don't have one on your computer (m-audio transit does this simply and cheaply); the number of soundcards I can believe of with that many regular outputs is not that large.
Romelia Stankard 02.08.2012	Originally Posted by djproben Yeah I'd seriously go the amp and speakers setup rather than having six separate powered monitors. But it looks like KRK recommends their VXTs (not the Rokits) for this purpose - http://www.krksys.com/manuals/vxt/vxt_manual.pdf - what I don't understand is how they balance things for true surround sound. Maybe it's just my ignorance but as I see it, you don't want all frequencies coming out of all speakers. You want the information appropriately separated; that's why I assumed you were looking for a software solution. But if you don't have a surround amp and you don't have software doing it, how do the speakers know which one is responsible for center, which ones are rear, etc.? Is there hardware that does this for krks? In any case I agree with the above poster, though you can do this for a lot cheaper than B+W or Martin Logans will set you back. Get a Harmon/Kardon or Marantz or Onkyo surround amp off craigslist for a couple hundred and some klipsch or infinity speakers that were actually designed for surround sound. You would have a soundcard with more than stereo output (for 5.1 you need 6 outs) and whatever DAW you are using you would setup for surround coming from multiple soundcard outs and you would use a surround mixer. You could do it with any speakers really- rokkits would be fine. Whether or not using krk rokkits is an ideal solution I don't know but it's not the worst idea I've ever heard. For all intents and purposes they are just decent powered bookshelf speakers and hardly monitors which is why people love them for DJing, I don't believe most of the warnings about using monitors for things other than monitoring really apply to them here. edit: you need a home theater receiver with pre-amp outs to connect to powered speakers I would still probably just get a used home theater setup instead.
devozz baby 02.08.2012	genelec does some awsome speakers, for this, i would suggest a 5040 sub and 5 8010's for a sweet 5.1 system
Danae Dumler 02.08.2012	Yeah I'd seriously go the amp and speakers setup rather than having six separate powered monitors. But it looks like KRK recommends their VXTs (not the Rokits) for this purpose - http://www.krksys.com/manuals/vxt/vxt_manual.pdf - what I don't understand is how they balance things for true surround sound. Maybe it's just my ignorance but as I see it, you don't want all frequencies coming out of all speakers. You want the information appropriately separated; that's why I assumed you were looking for a software solution. But if you don't have a surround amp and you don't have software doing it, how do the speakers know which one is responsible for center, which ones are rear, etc.? Is there hardware that does this for krks? In any case I agree with the above poster, though you can do this for a lot cheaper than B+W or Martin Logans will set you back. Get a Harmon/Kardon or Marantz or Onkyo surround amp off craigslist for a couple hundred and some klipsch or infinity speakers that were actually designed for surround sound.
Kasandra Kreindler 02.08.2012	none of this is overkill, just really the wrong speakers for the application, if you want nice HT speakers and ready to drop coin, pick up some nautilus series bower and wilkens or definitive technology or martin logan, and power it with either a dedicated amp or use the amp inside the receiver, or bi-amp (using a dedicated amp as well as the receiver amp) for receivers look into marantz, pioneer, harmon kardon, or onkyo. these are merely suggestions, check this community out http://www.avcommunity s.com/community s/index.php or http://www.avscommunity .com/f/ Their full of information and people will help steer you in the right direction as far as picking the right speakers/gear for your space and overall goal of what you want to accomplish, no more nonsense about using active studio monitors as some sort of makeshift HT setup, KRK to begin with arent that great of a speaker....
Monique Swanier 02.08.2012	Originally Posted by tombruton69 I might look into what cinemas use. I wasnt talking about software wen i said about bass managment. its hardware based it is what krk reccomend for using these in 5.1. Why are you so dead set on using studio monitors? Do you even realize how massive these are?
Marguerite Truka 02.08.2012	I might look into what cinemas use. I wasnt talking about software wen i said about bass managment. its hardware based it is what krk reccomend for using these in 5.1.
Tesha Freudenstein 02.08.2012	errr...that's way overkill. we're talking about 500 combined watts just for the surround. also a total waste of money since the auxillary speakers on 5.1 system are mainly used for for mids and highs.
Monique Swanier 02.08.2012	Originally Posted by tombruton69 Hi guys im looking at completing my home cinema setup with 4 krk rp8s a rp10 and a krk sub. I am wondering the best way to manage these speakers. got a htpc running ubuntu 30meg install and xbmc so wanna finish it off with amazing sound Also Amazing sound ISN'T always 5.1
Monique Swanier 02.08.2012	Originally Posted by tombruton69 sorry might of not made it totally clear 4 rp8s 1 rp10 and also a krk sub not sure which Even Still for starters an RP10 for center... WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY overkill since thats mainly used for only voice in movies and games. Also the speakers are extremely directional for optimum hearing. They're meant for studio use, not home entertainment use. I would suggest looking at some other community s dealing with home theater audio. Also THESE MONITORS ARE HUUUUGE!
Danae Dumler 02.08.2012	you want speakers, not powered monitors, for home theatre setup. And a decent amp/receiver that will manage the power between them appropriately for you. You're trying to find software to do something nobody does.
Marguerite Truka 02.08.2012	Originally Posted by MelloState . . . . 4 krk tops? 1 Sub..... 4.1? O_o Besides, thats a bit overkill for home theater and probably not gonna come off as wonderful, it's gonna be LOUD Best idea for home entertainment stuff IS an actual home entertainment setup sorry might of not made it totally clear 4 rp8s 1 rp10 and also a krk sub not sure which
Marguerite Truka 02.08.2012	in my studio is 2 krk rokit 8's wouldnt want anything bigger dont want to totally screw my hearing up, id use the rp10 on its side as a mid field for the soundbar type thing, obe the sub behind the seating, and the 4 corners with rp8s too give good issolation, believeing of using a bass managment system with an optical or hdmi input
Monique Swanier 02.08.2012	. . . . 4 krk tops? 1 Sub..... 4.1? O_o Besides, thats a bit overkill for home theater and probably not gonna come off as wonderful, it's gonna be LOUD Best idea for home entertainment stuff IS an actual home entertainment setup
Geri Jarra 02.08.2012	woah I believe all that is a bit of an over kill for home theater.. but if you do, what would be in your studio?!?
Romelia Stankard 02.08.2012	No idea how you would control them. Why one RP10 though? It would probably sound pretty good.
Marguerite Truka 02.08.2012	nah not trolling or stupid. just want somthing powerfull and not overly colored like most home theatre systems they also look good
Kasandra Kreindler 02.08.2012	eb6.jpg

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