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which setup is better?
Posted on: 02.08.2012 by Anisha Shovein
Hello guys, I cant decide which setup I have to choose: S4,allen heath xone 4d,denon dn x1600+x1 or allen heath 42+x1.In future I use timecodes and I want to get a good quality and longevity,so price is not very important.
Sorry for my english ) hope u help me to choose the best
Nereida Jasnoch
06.08.2012
Originally Posted by djproben
O Rly? I didn't know this ... any interesting ones?
Yeah for sure!

-You got traditional for more subtle control but you give up full kill.
-Full kill (my favorite)
- Filter for the highs, filter for the lows and the mid knob controls resonance

Those are your EQ flavours if you will and then you have variants of those types that sound a bit different.
Most EQ overkill I ever witnessed.

God I love that mixer, definitely a great purchase.

EDIT:

But OP if you 're still not sure:

If my mixer were to ever break down I'd also look at either the Xone 42 or the Denon 1600 so you're on the right track. And I can imagine that choosing between those 2 mixers is a though choice.
Fannie Ohayre
06.08.2012
Originally Posted by Jester.NZ
go for the 42 or x1600 + the x1. i use 2 x1's and the x1600 myself and its badass.
I used that same set up for over a year. Yeah, "Badass" is right.
Danae Dumler
06.08.2012
Originally Posted by MyUsername
OP just in case you are an EQ slut my Korg Zero 4 has like 9 EQ modes. Just throwing that out there.
O Rly? I didn't know this ... any interesting ones?
Asha Poudrier
02.08.2012
Originally Posted by Jester.NZ
go for the 42 or x1600 + the x1. i use 2 x1's and the x1600 myself and its badass.
I used 2 x1s and a four channel and it is an awesome set up. I say 42 + x1s. It's nice to have an actual mixer instead of just a controller.
Danae Dumler
07.08.2012
Oh and to the OP, I'd lean towards the Denon for what you're looking for. Having the mixer TSP compatible is really nice for keeping things simple, and the sound quality on the Denons is fantastic. I had the 1700 for a while and loved it; the only sound issue I would complain about is the sound quality coming off the headphone amp, it's noticeably bad, but it's plenty good enough to mix with. So as long as you're not buying the mixer to use as a headphone amp you're good....
Danae Dumler
07.08.2012
Interesting, I thought the DB4 was the first to do that; very cool. I always wondered about those Korgs, I remember playing with one years ago at some trade show right when they came out and believeing how cool they were. But I had no idea they were set up to mix with filters like that, how do the filters sound? Do you find yourself using that mode? For me thats been the most exciting thing about using the DB4; the effects are great but like any effects, you don't want to use them on most of your mixes. But I eq in filter mode only and really love it.

Had I known then what I know now I probably would have bought that mixer and not bothered with the DB4.... Still, the DB4 goes to 11......
Nereida Jasnoch
06.08.2012
Originally Posted by djproben
O Rly? I didn't know this ... any interesting ones?
Yeah for sure!

-You got traditional for more subtle control but you give up full kill.
-Full kill (my favorite)
- Filter for the highs, filter for the lows and the mid knob controls resonance

Those are your EQ flavours if you will and then you have variants of those types that sound a bit different.
Most EQ overkill I ever witnessed.

God I love that mixer, definitely a great purchase.

EDIT:

But OP if you 're still not sure:

If my mixer were to ever break down I'd also look at either the Xone 42 or the Denon 1600 so you're on the right track. And I can imagine that choosing between those 2 mixers is a though choice.
Fannie Ohayre
06.08.2012
Originally Posted by Jester.NZ
go for the 42 or x1600 + the x1. i use 2 x1's and the x1600 myself and its badass.
I used that same set up for over a year. Yeah, "Badass" is right.
Danae Dumler
06.08.2012
Originally Posted by MyUsername
OP just in case you are an EQ slut my Korg Zero 4 has like 9 EQ modes. Just throwing that out there.
O Rly? I didn't know this ... any interesting ones?
Kristin Tesfamichael
04.08.2012
denon dn x1600+x1. A solid mixer, and has a built in sound card.
Kandi Odom
04.08.2012
A8 or 10 for 4 channel!!!
Anisha Shovein
04.08.2012
and one more question, for 4 channels i should get traktor audio 6,8 or 10?
Anisha Shovein
03.08.2012
and which sounds better, 42 or x1600? )) thanks for answers
Asha Poudrier
02.08.2012
Originally Posted by Jester.NZ
go for the 42 or x1600 + the x1. i use 2 x1's and the x1600 myself and its badass.
I used 2 x1s and a four channel and it is an awesome set up. I say 42 + x1s. It's nice to have an actual mixer instead of just a controller.
Latoria Kavulich
02.08.2012
haha nice
Celestine Porebski
02.08.2012
Definitely!

Can't beat the fun..........of an X1!
(Hmmm, should I start writing commercial jingles? )
Latoria Kavulich
02.08.2012
go for the 42 or x1600 + the x1. i use 2 x1's and the x1600 myself and its badass.
Kasandra Kreindler
02.08.2012
Originally Posted by 3heads
Haha, the fucking dry/wet knobs on the 42 are a constant source for confusion when setting up. "Damn, why the hell is the volume so low - something can not be right" - figuring out that the D/W knobs have been touched can take a bit of time.

And NoizeUnit, are you sure about the -26db? Sadly my 42 was stolen, so I can't test it right now (and I'm too lazy to search for the manual), but I'm fairly certain the EQs were full kill.
sad to hear about it getting stolen...hhaha ya when i first got the 42 i was like wtf its BROKEN, turned out wet/dry knob was turned \facepalm. hmmm ya your right it is a full kill eq (+6db to full kill) idk what i was believeing brain fart, i only got 4 hrs of sleep last evening -.- zzZZZ
Celestine Porebski
02.08.2012
Haha, the fucking dry/wet knobs on the 42 are a constant source for confusion when setting up. "Damn, why the hell is the volume so low - something can not be right" - figuring out that the D/W knobs have been touched can take a bit of time.

And NoizeUnit, are you sure about the -26db? Sadly my 42 was stolen, so I can't test it right now (and I'm too lazy to search for the manual), but I'm fairly certain the EQs were full kill.
Hanna Ridenbaugh
02.08.2012
Must have missed the aux send on the 42 when I was reading up on it.
Nereida Jasnoch
02.08.2012
Originally Posted by NoizeuNit
No, just standard EQ (-26db cutoff)
bummer

OP just in case you are an EQ slut my Korg Zero 4 has like 9 EQ modes. Just throwing that out there.
Kasandra Kreindler
02.08.2012
No, just standard EQ (-26db cutoff), when i sell my 42 and get the DB4 i will have fun with Trimodal EQs
Nereida Jasnoch
02.08.2012
Timecode setup with an S4 feels lame as fuck. Get a genuine mixer for your own enjoyment if money is no issue. Add X1 or midifighter if you wanna go crazy.

^NoizeuNit, does the Xone 42 have multiple EQ modes and if not is the standard mode full kill ? Just wondering.
Kasandra Kreindler
02.08.2012
Originally Posted by zimfella
The xone 42 does not have aux send/return which s useful for the loop recorder or external fx unit. But if your just doing standard mixing of tracks that does not matter.

4d is little old now and lacks led feedback but still an amazing unit.

Not to keen on s4 myself, doesn't feel like it can last forever, just my opinion.

Denon, well I've only played on their two channel mixers which were great.

Hope that helps
Xone 42 does indeed has a send/return FX feature its one of the main selling points... i have one


to OP if your going to be using traktor (which sounds like you are) i would highly suggest the denon x1600 out all the choice since it already has a soundcard (scratch certified for DVS timecode) so you would just need the software... its comparable to DJM 800 and has some midi mappable stuff, never tried it myself but hear good things, great mixer for the price.
Ciara Cuttill
02.08.2012
allen heath 42+x1 ... this
Hanna Ridenbaugh
02.08.2012
The xone 42 does not have aux send/return which s useful for the loop recorder or external fx unit. But if your just doing standard mixing of tracks that does not matter.

4d is little old now and lacks led feedback but still an amazing unit.

Not to keen on s4 myself, doesn't feel like it can last forever, just my opinion.

Denon, well I've only played on their two channel mixers which were great.

Hope that helps

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