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Hercules RMX as a traditional mixer? Posted on: 11.08.2012 by Howard Roytman Hi All! I had an RMX a few years ago and upgraded to a VCI-100 and NI Audio 2. Now I'm buying a pair of turntables and looking for a neat way of integrating my digital music with vinyl, without dropping a fortune on a DVS system. Can anyone tell me how the RMX performs as a mixer (rather than a controller)? It looks to be ideal, unless I'm missing something, offering the best of both worlds as well as a simple way of recording mixes to my computer. It will live at home 100% so gigging isn't a concern.
Kiyoko Wellisch 12.08.2012	Originally Posted by milltown Not at all. I'm looking for a way to combine my digital tunes with vinyl in a mix. A handy way of recording the mixes would be an added bonus. When I started back into mixing dance music after a 10-15 year hiatus I spent a fair bit of time and money collecting digital versions of records I had stored in the attic. After that I amassed a collection of newer stuff. I'd rather not have to fork out again buying vinyl copies of music I bought on digital. I will have a DJ mixer too. I'd get a digital vinyl system and a real mixer if I were you, but that's just me shrug
Howard Roytman 12.08.2012	Originally Posted by MrPopinjay You really want to use the traktor effects or something? Not at all. I'm looking for a way to combine my digital tunes with vinyl in a mix. A handy way of recording the mixes would be an added bonus. When I started back into mixing dance music after a 10-15 year hiatus I spent a fair bit of time and money collecting digital versions of records I had stored in the attic. After that I amassed a collection of newer stuff. I'd rather not have to fork out again buying vinyl copies of music I bought on digital. I will have a DJ mixer too.
Howard Roytman 12.08.2012	Originally Posted by deevey FYI might be worth looking at the stanton DJC.4 Which IMHO would be a better up-to-date option than the aged RMX if you are looking at buying another RMX (which I loved the build of BTW). Was.Deevey from Boards.ie? Small world! The Stanton looks nice alright but it's twice the price of the RMX on Thomann. I'm hoping to manage a cash neutral switch from the VCI to the RMX if I decide to go that route. i.e. Either find somebody to swap, or else sell the VCI for close to the €180 the RMX costs new. I'm not sure how up to date I need the mixer/controller to be, considering I'm going back to turntables that haven't changed a whole lot in over 30 years
Howard Roytman 12.08.2012	Thanks for the replies! Originally Posted by synthet1c If you want to use traktor you will need to purchase an Audio 4/6/8/10 soundcard or a scratch certified mixer. The RMX will work with VDJ or MIXXX though. I thought the NI soundcard was only required for using timecode vinyl with Traktor? Maybe what I was believeing isn't actually possible; playing records on the TTs and just triggering digital tracks using the controller side of the RMX. Does it have to be full on vinyl+timecodes or else digital, with no "hybrid" mode? I'd have no problem going back to VDJ anyway. It does enough for me 99.99% of the time, and I always thought recording straight to MP3 was much handier, and a glaring omission from Traktor.
Rolanda Clodfelder 12.08.2012	Originally Posted by synthet1c not really... your computer will still buffer the audio but the delay is only a few milliseconds on an average system. If you want to use traktor you will need to purchase an Audio 4/6/8/10 soundcard or a scratch certified mixer. The RMX will work with VDJ or MIXXX though. This, the RMX for the price (sub $200) feels more like a "real" mixer than many of the other expensive controllers (S4 for example) so on that front you are covered. Mixxx works extremely well as a DVS with the RMX last time I tried it, and its free, so what more could you ask for - apart from a few control vinyls perhaps and it records as well :P FYI might be worth looking at the stanton DJC.4 Which IMHO would be a better up-to-date option than the aged RMX if you are looking at buying another RMX (which I loved the build of BTW).
Howard Roytman 11.08.2012	Hi All! I had an RMX a few years ago and upgraded to a VCI-100 and NI Audio 2. Now I'm buying a pair of turntables and looking for a neat way of integrating my digital music with vinyl, without dropping a fortune on a DVS system. Can anyone tell me how the RMX performs as a mixer (rather than a controller)? It looks to be ideal, unless I'm missing something, offering the best of both worlds as well as a simple way of recording mixes to my computer. It will live at home 100% so gigging isn't a concern.
Kiyoko Wellisch 12.08.2012	Originally Posted by milltown Not at all. I'm looking for a way to combine my digital tunes with vinyl in a mix. A handy way of recording the mixes would be an added bonus. When I started back into mixing dance music after a 10-15 year hiatus I spent a fair bit of time and money collecting digital versions of records I had stored in the attic. After that I amassed a collection of newer stuff. I'd rather not have to fork out again buying vinyl copies of music I bought on digital. I will have a DJ mixer too. I'd get a digital vinyl system and a real mixer if I were you, but that's just me shrug
Rolanda Clodfelder 12.08.2012	Was.Deevey from Boards.ie? Small world! Yep it is (and before the passwords all got hacked just deevey :P) Sorry had Assumed timecode was a necessity, but in your case, yep you can just use the RMX as a regular mixer when running traktor just use the input buttons on the top of the RMX with the default RMX mapping, job done. Then just edit the rest of the layout to your hearts desires.
Howard Roytman 12.08.2012	Originally Posted by MrPopinjay You really want to use the traktor effects or something? Not at all. I'm looking for a way to combine my digital tunes with vinyl in a mix. A handy way of recording the mixes would be an added bonus. When I started back into mixing dance music after a 10-15 year hiatus I spent a fair bit of time and money collecting digital versions of records I had stored in the attic. After that I amassed a collection of newer stuff. I'd rather not have to fork out again buying vinyl copies of music I bought on digital. I will have a DJ mixer too.
Kiyoko Wellisch 12.08.2012	So wait, why don't you want to use a traditional DJ mixer? You really want to use the traktor effects or something?
Jonathan Chiuchiolo 12.08.2012	It's not a mixer so you need to route the sound through software first, same story with the DJC.4, accept that will be of a higher quality construction and you have touch sensitive jogwheels that you can use to control other things, and the encoders for browsing & loop control... The only benefit I can see is the Herc can run timecodes in VDJ LE so you don't need to upgrade although if you do it's half price, the DJC.4 will only give a discount of $50 according to phil's article on digitaldjtips and needs to be upgraded to use timecodes. Overall the RMX is probably the most cost effective if you want to upgrade and will get the job done until you get more money for a better controller, with VDJ Pro you can use literally any HID or midi controller on the market and VDJ8 is just around the corner which will add features and fix the issues of the current version... Hopefully more will be teased at the DJ Times Expo starting tomorrow as atomix have been alluding to it on their facebook page lately.
Howard Roytman 12.08.2012	Originally Posted by deevey FYI might be worth looking at the stanton DJC.4 Which IMHO would be a better up-to-date option than the aged RMX if you are looking at buying another RMX (which I loved the build of BTW). Was.Deevey from Boards.ie? Small world! The Stanton looks nice alright but it's twice the price of the RMX on Thomann. I'm hoping to manage a cash neutral switch from the VCI to the RMX if I decide to go that route. i.e. Either find somebody to swap, or else sell the VCI for close to the €180 the RMX costs new. I'm not sure how up to date I need the mixer/controller to be, considering I'm going back to turntables that haven't changed a whole lot in over 30 years
Howard Roytman 12.08.2012	Thanks for the replies! Originally Posted by synthet1c If you want to use traktor you will need to purchase an Audio 4/6/8/10 soundcard or a scratch certified mixer. The RMX will work with VDJ or MIXXX though. I thought the NI soundcard was only required for using timecode vinyl with Traktor? Maybe what I was believeing isn't actually possible; playing records on the TTs and just triggering digital tracks using the controller side of the RMX. Does it have to be full on vinyl+timecodes or else digital, with no "hybrid" mode? I'd have no problem going back to VDJ anyway. It does enough for me 99.99% of the time, and I always thought recording straight to MP3 was much handier, and a glaring omission from Traktor.
Rolanda Clodfelder 12.08.2012	Originally Posted by synthet1c not really... your computer will still buffer the audio but the delay is only a few milliseconds on an average system. If you want to use traktor you will need to purchase an Audio 4/6/8/10 soundcard or a scratch certified mixer. The RMX will work with VDJ or MIXXX though. This, the RMX for the price (sub $200) feels more like a "real" mixer than many of the other expensive controllers (S4 for example) so on that front you are covered. Mixxx works extremely well as a DVS with the RMX last time I tried it, and its free, so what more could you ask for - apart from a few control vinyls perhaps and it records as well :P FYI might be worth looking at the stanton DJC.4 Which IMHO would be a better up-to-date option than the aged RMX if you are looking at buying another RMX (which I loved the build of BTW).
Jonathan Chiuchiolo 11.08.2012	not really... your computer will still buffer the audio but the delay is only a few milliseconds on an average system. If you want to use traktor you will need to purchase an Audio 4/6/8/10 soundcard or a scratch certified mixer. The RMX will work with VDJ or MIXXX though.
Howard Roytman 11.08.2012	Powering it isn't a problem. I can leave the laptop hooked up to it. I'm returning to vinyl after a 15 year hiatus but was always of the impression that recording everything is the best way to get the most out of practicing. I suppose I'm more concerned about audio lag ruining the vinyl "connection". Is there a noticeable difference between direct electronic audio signal path as with a regular mixer, versus processed by the RMX soundcard, I guess is what I'm asking.
Geri Jarra 11.08.2012	Its not powered, so you will still need your laptop. I ran techs using my RMX last year, but always used Timecodes

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