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Confused with watts/ohms! (amp)
Posted on: 21.08.2012 by Lynsey Kowalski
Hi, I am putting together a little system for my house and parties, but amps, ohms and wattss are giving me a headache.
I have purchased 2 x 300 RMS, 8 ohm speakers:
(http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SKYTEC-15-...item51a0a69ea5)

But have looked through many threads and everyone says different things about amps, is there anyone who can give me a definate answer for what amplifier wattage/ohms e.t.c I need? or recommend any amps?

Thanks.
Ossie Pooley
24.08.2012
Originally Posted by rdej47
Do I see a Dragon Ball Z reference?
Johnsie Kingrea
25.08.2012
Originally Posted by Lilac
+ over 9000
Do I see a Dragon Ball Z reference?
Lela Umanskaya
23.08.2012
Originally Posted by sobi
No, but I used them in the same sentence. I'm just saying that he has engineered a box/speaker system that is widely regarded as an option that can rival some of the higher end of Mid level gear... on a low end budget.

And it's still a step up from this place as far as a knowledge base for pro audio goes. I'll be sure to check out that community though, so thanks.
http://www.djcommunity s.com/community s/showt...l=1#post131565

My problem with Bill is posts like this. A picture edited together in paint is one thing, but tell me how in the fook you are going to strap that monstrosity together so that you don't kill a punter with falling speakers?

The guys are Pro Sound Web range from week-end warriors in the Lounge, to working professionals deploying large scale rigs and staging in the LAB. They understand how things work in the real world, and some of them have experience that would put Bill to shame. I find myself falling somewhere between LAB and Lounge in terms of experience, but I learn something every day when I go on there.
Darren Teboe
23.08.2012
Originally Posted by rotebass
Did you just use BFM and professional together?
No, but I used them in the same sentence. I'm just saying that he has engineered a box/speaker system that is widely regarded as an option that can rival some of the higher end of Mid level gear... on a low end budget.


Originally Posted by rotebass
DJ Forums has a few knowledgable members, unfortunately there are a lot of people who believe owning a set of k12s makes you a pro. Here's a community populated by people who actually make a living in the industry: http://community s.prosoundweb.com
And it's still a step up from this place as far as a knowledge base for pro audio goes. I'll be sure to check out that community though, so thanks.
Lela Umanskaya
23.08.2012
Originally Posted by sobi
Please for the love of god, never listen to advice on amps from someone who can not spell "active" correctly and/or uses anything Behringer as the first recommendation.
Go here.
http://www.djcommunity s.com/community s/community ...-Amps-Speakers
Bill Fitzmaurice, and many other PROFESSIONAL sound guys roam that community , and will give you the best info possible. Hope that helps.
Did you just use BFM and professional together?

DJ Forums has a few knowledgable members, unfortunately there are a lot of people who believe owning a set of k12s makes you a pro. Here's a community populated by people who actually make a living in the industry: http://community s.prosoundweb.com
Lynsey Kowalski
23.08.2012		Okay thanks for all the advice guys, just took the easier route and refunded the speakers, can anyone advise any budget active speakers around (
Darren Teboe
22.08.2012
Originally Posted by Duksedrengen
Aktive = is "active" in Denmark, where i live. Sorry for the confusion!

Sobi do you really believe he can afford a crown or LAB amp? when he buys the cheapest speakers he could find?

Thats why i am recommending the Behringer Inuke because of the prize and what you get for your money
apologies. Arogant and ignorant american side of me. As for the amp though, regardless of affordability, there is much better stuff out there. Buy once, cry once.
Shoshana Garing
22.08.2012
Originally Posted by sobi
Please for the love of god, never listen to advice on amps from someone who can not spell "active" correctly and/or uses anything Behringer as the first recommendation.
Go here.
http://www.djcommunity s.com/community s/community ...-Amps-Speakers
Bill Fitzmaurice, and many other PROFESSIONAL sound guys roam that community , and will give you the best info possible. Hope that helps.
Aktive = is "active" in Denmark, where i live. Sorry for the confusion!

Sobi do you really believe he can afford a crown or LAB amp? when he buys the cheapest speakers he could find?

Thats why i am recommending the Behringer Inuke because of the prize and what you get for your money
Ossie Pooley
24.08.2012
Originally Posted by rdej47
Do I see a Dragon Ball Z reference?
Johnsie Kingrea
25.08.2012
Originally Posted by Lilac
+ over 9000
Do I see a Dragon Ball Z reference?
Darren Teboe
24.08.2012		last word.
Lela Umanskaya
23.08.2012
Originally Posted by sobi
No, but I used them in the same sentence. I'm just saying that he has engineered a box/speaker system that is widely regarded as an option that can rival some of the higher end of Mid level gear... on a low end budget.

And it's still a step up from this place as far as a knowledge base for pro audio goes. I'll be sure to check out that community though, so thanks.
http://www.djcommunity s.com/community s/showt...l=1#post131565

My problem with Bill is posts like this. A picture edited together in paint is one thing, but tell me how in the fook you are going to strap that monstrosity together so that you don't kill a punter with falling speakers?

The guys are Pro Sound Web range from week-end warriors in the Lounge, to working professionals deploying large scale rigs and staging in the LAB. They understand how things work in the real world, and some of them have experience that would put Bill to shame. I find myself falling somewhere between LAB and Lounge in terms of experience, but I learn something every day when I go on there.
Darren Teboe
23.08.2012
Originally Posted by rotebass
Did you just use BFM and professional together?
No, but I used them in the same sentence. I'm just saying that he has engineered a box/speaker system that is widely regarded as an option that can rival some of the higher end of Mid level gear... on a low end budget.


Originally Posted by rotebass
DJ Forums has a few knowledgable members, unfortunately there are a lot of people who believe owning a set of k12s makes you a pro. Here's a community populated by people who actually make a living in the industry: http://community s.prosoundweb.com
And it's still a step up from this place as far as a knowledge base for pro audio goes. I'll be sure to check out that community though, so thanks.
Lela Umanskaya
23.08.2012
Originally Posted by sobi
Please for the love of god, never listen to advice on amps from someone who can not spell "active" correctly and/or uses anything Behringer as the first recommendation.
Go here.
http://www.djcommunity s.com/community s/community ...-Amps-Speakers
Bill Fitzmaurice, and many other PROFESSIONAL sound guys roam that community , and will give you the best info possible. Hope that helps.
Did you just use BFM and professional together?

DJ Forums has a few knowledgable members, unfortunately there are a lot of people who believe owning a set of k12s makes you a pro. Here's a community populated by people who actually make a living in the industry: http://community s.prosoundweb.com
Marva Cupid
23.08.2012		I run a pair of 15" and 12" skytec speakers. they arnt bad, they by no means compare to makies or JBLs. But they are not bad.
Lynsey Kowalski
23.08.2012		Okay thanks for all the advice guys, just took the easier route and refunded the speakers, can anyone advise any budget active speakers around (
Brooks Perlowski
23.08.2012		you can look up for this link like www.djcommunity s.com/community s/amps speakers. HERE YOU WILL GET THE DETAILED VIEW OF WHAT YOU NEED AND YOU MAY GET YOUR CONFUSION SOLVED REGARDING OHMS, AMPERES
Shonda Soulier
22.08.2012		Just tell him what amp to buy. I've found that if you give people the right information and they're still confused, just do it for them.
Jerica Salava
22.08.2012		get one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Behringer-NU30.../dp/B005EHINAS

it will give you 440 WATTS into 8 OHMS (STEREO).

Make sure to get the DSP version. It will help you tweak your "cheap" speakers to sound better.

The DSP version comes with digital signal processor software that easily let's you tweak the sound and settings of the amplifier.

better link: http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2011/...ps-get-editor/

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Darren Teboe
22.08.2012
Originally Posted by Duksedrengen
Aktive = is "active" in Denmark, where i live. Sorry for the confusion!

Sobi do you really believe he can afford a crown or LAB amp? when he buys the cheapest speakers he could find?

Thats why i am recommending the Behringer Inuke because of the prize and what you get for your money
apologies. Arogant and ignorant american side of me. As for the amp though, regardless of affordability, there is much better stuff out there. Buy once, cry once.
Marva Cupid
22.08.2012		Just throwing it out there. It is better to have a higher watt amp and not turn it up as much than have a lower wattage amp and blast it. You will get less distortion that way. Just measure how far u can push it with a multi meter and osiliscope if u have one.
I would recommend the inuke as well at that price range. I usedto use on bridged for my dual hcca-12 subs before I got my crown.
Shoshana Garing
22.08.2012
Originally Posted by sobi
Please for the love of god, never listen to advice on amps from someone who can not spell "active" correctly and/or uses anything Behringer as the first recommendation.
Go here.
http://www.djcommunity s.com/community s/community ...-Amps-Speakers
Bill Fitzmaurice, and many other PROFESSIONAL sound guys roam that community , and will give you the best info possible. Hope that helps.
Aktive = is "active" in Denmark, where i live. Sorry for the confusion!

Sobi do you really believe he can afford a crown or LAB amp? when he buys the cheapest speakers he could find?

Thats why i am recommending the Behringer Inuke because of the prize and what you get for your money
Erica Charvet
22.08.2012
Originally Posted by sobi
Please for the love of god, never listen to advice on amps from someone who uses anything Behringer as the first recommendation.
I'd recommend the Behringer EP Series amps all day long, especially for someone starting out.
Audria Pechman
21.08.2012		Ok here is the deal, if your speaker's specs are to be believed (never trust specs on entry level products) you do not need a large amp. Your speakers are rated at 98db/watt/meters, that means that you will get 98DB at 1 meter with 1 watt input. Watts are logarithmic so to increase your output 3db (the smallest amount that can be perceived) you need to double your wattage. So at 2 watts you will have 101db and at 4 watts 104db etc. This means that even a 5watt amp will push your speakers very loud for a small room but it would clip on the peaks when played at full volume. Without knowing the size of the room, any amp above 100wrms should be ok. I would stick with name brands such as QSC or Crown, especially if you are going to be using the amp for a long time. You will need to invest in a sub or two if you expect any bass at all, the cabs you bought will play nothing below 100hz with any authority. Even a small sub can make a big impact.
Ossie Pooley
21.08.2012
Originally Posted by sobi
Please for the love of god, never listen to advice on amps from someone who can not spell "active" correctly and/or uses anything Behringer as the first recommendation.
Go here.
http://www.djcommunity s.com/community s/community ...-Amps-Speakers
Bill Fitzmaurice, and many other PROFESSIONAL sound guys roam that community , and will give you the best info possible. Hope that helps.
+ over 9000
Addie Engbrecht
21.08.2012		2 - 300 Watt RMS drivers that are rated at 8 ohms each, per speaker right? Wired in series, your load to each speaker would actually be rated at 4 Ohms not 8
Darren Teboe
21.08.2012		Please for the love of god, never listen to advice on amps from someone who can not spell "active" correctly and/or uses anything Behringer as the first recommendation.
Go here.
http://www.djcommunity s.com/community s/community ...-Amps-Speakers
Bill Fitzmaurice, and many other PROFESSIONAL sound guys roam that community , and will give you the best info possible. Hope that helps.
Lynsey Kowalski
21.08.2012		I've already got them, they were really cheap, just wanted a set of bigger/louder speakers, rather than my pc ones, they've got 2 years warranty.

I will be looking for an amplifier with 2x400-500 watt 8 ohms then, thanks for the help, any suggestions?
Shoshana Garing
21.08.2012		Buy some other speakers... those speakers sucks... your just gonna blow the speakers... either buy aktive speakers (would be really easy for you for house parties) or else for an amp get the inuke and a rack for it

normally i would buy an amp wich would be with the samme spec as the speaker... so 2x600 watt 8 ohms PEAK... but because of the speakers you should buy 2x400-500 watt 8 ohms PEAK
Lynsey Kowalski
21.08.2012		Thanks for the link, I've read it, and I'm still confused! call me stupid or whatever, but is this correct: I am looking for an amp that offers 600W each channel at 8ohms. (1200w overall?)
Shonda Soulier
21.08.2012		start here - http://www.sweetwater.com/shop/live-...ying-guide.php

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