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Beginner DJ, few questions Posted on: 17.09.2012 by Iluminada Vandevoort Hi, hope everyone's having a good day and positive vibes throughout the coming week! I've just received a budget to buy my first mixing gear , and I've just got a few questions as I'm a bit lost on how I should proceed. My budget is around 500-600, and my original plan was to buy a midi controller and headphones: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...&condition=new - the controller http://www.juno.co.uk/products/299532-01.htm - the headphones My concern is that, is it worth getting a midi controller instead of a CDJ? From what I've gathered, CDJ provides a more suitable "clubbing" environment, and it's the real deal, rather then a midi controller connected to a laptop. It also seems like midi controllers are somewhat limited? In terms of progression, it seems like midi controllers are only useful to learn the basics, not to progress onto bigger gigs and events. I'm not looking to DJ/produce as a hobby, I'm looking to progress as far as I can as I simply love music. What are the essential gear s required for Djing? Aside from speakers and mics, only speaking in terms of the core software required. I've heard that clubs don't generally accept a DJ that uses a controller, is this true? If so, are most clubs expecting a CDJ? Basically my question is; I really don't want to spend 500 dollars on an gear which is only suitable for learning the basics, I'm looking to buy gear which is suitable for gigs and bigger events, that I can progress with it in a long term basis. I'm just so ecstatic and excited to start learning and dedicate the majority of my time for this beautiful art Any help would be much appreciated!
Iluminada Vandevoort 19.09.2012	Originally Posted by SirReal I totally agree, unfortunately it seems that the latest trend is for DJs to let the last DJ's track play out and then they start their set. It totally sucks and breaks up the vibe for me. I love to hear DJs mix into other DJs. So current Dj's tend to let a song play out until it's near the end, and just sync another track? Isn't that just the same thing as having an ipod on shuffle? I always thought mixing contained a track that plays until a certain point, then another track plays overlooping the current playing track?
Jerica Salava 19.09.2012	Originally Posted by SirReal I totally agree, unfortunately it seems that the latest trend is for DJs to let the last DJ's track play out and then they start their set. It totally sucks and breaks up the vibe for me. I love to hear DJs mix into other DJs. WTF ? Is this really going on? Thank god I play with real DJ's that mix out of my tracks. That's one of the funnest parts. Especially, when they're sizing you up and you rock a mix out of their track without looking at their screen (BPM). Then they disconnect and give you the "Respect" look. >
Cole Maroto 18.09.2012	Originally Posted by LoopCat You get a tone of satisfaction from learning beat matching! It can be hard having to actually learn your music and take time figuring out the tempo and phrasing opposed to downloading a thousands mp3's and syncing them all together without caring. Doing things the hard way is the best way to learn. Nothing wrong with sync for advanced DJ's or people just wanting to have a bit of fun but anyone who wants to make a profession out of DJing should be pretty dam good at beat matching to save their own ass when technology fails. sure, i agree that learning something is very satisfying (including beatmatching) but to me that's not the most important part. i believe it's far more satisfying to learn how to phrase properly and get a mix that isn't clashing between that and being out of key. there's also a difference between something being satisfying and exciting, but eh, semantics. both of those feelings are fleeting after you get the skills down and it just becomes part of what you have to do to mix properly. i would say that if someone is downloading a thousand mp3s and syncing them without caring, then maybe they should examine why they are djing. i would argue that beatmatching adds little to making someone care about music, but again that's my experience and i generally don't want to worry about that when i'm djing any more. i've been there and done that, and for the most part it's over though i do like to get my records out and go old school every now and then for sure. i also don't believe that doing things the hard way is necessarily the best method for everyone to learn. maybe for you it was, but maybe for someone else it won't be. maybe some people already have enough to deal with in the beginning and would rather not worry about banging their head against beatmatching on top of all the other stuff. it's a personal journey that every person needs to figure out on their own. i'm currently teaching my gf how to dj using my vci-400 ege and i believe that's what is best for her. if she had to try and fumble around with records at this point she would just get frustrated and give up i believe. i'm prone to agree that all djs should know how to beatmatch, just in case they ever need it (much like learning how to drive manual in a car). it's also a good way to respect the history of what we are doing, but i don't believe it's absolutely necessary in today's day and age.
Ming Devis 18.09.2012	Originally Posted by squidot i find it a little odd that your first time on the decks you found it to be boring because of sync. i hate to tell you but manual beatmatching isn't going to add a level of excitement to mixing, really. it least it doesn't for me, but i guess everyone is different. it will just add more time into auditioning songs and lining them up for you next mix. plus once you get it down after some practice you should be able to get the beats pretty close in a fairly quick amount of time. also, since you have never djed before that, how do you know that using sync is taking out the majority of the experience of mixing? you have no experience in beatmatching to compare it to. with that said, i feel that every dj should learn how to beatmatch. start by using sync to get used to picking the right songs and honing the moods that need to be created. it also gets you up to speed on phrasing and how to keep your levels/eq nice and smooth without worrying about drifting beats. once you are more comfortable with that you can turn sync off and go old fashioned depending what gear you get. a lot of controllers give you this option by including pitch faders and jog wheels. after that you could try your hand on cdjs, but the real king is a set of turntables. the best is to try and keep 2 warped records in time...whoooooo, now that can be a little exciting! constantly on the edge of a trainwrecking suckas! to answer your question, beatmatching is simply keeping the beats running at exactly the same tempo and nudging them (or riding the pitch fader) as needed. you need to have them drift as little as possible. hitting the cue at the right time is about phrasing: http://www.djranking s.com/2009/01/2...e-perfect-mix/ You get a tone of satisfaction from learning beat matching! It can be hard having to actually learn your music and take time figuring out the tempo and phrasing opposed to downloading a thousands mp3's and syncing them all together without caring. Doing things the hard way is the best way to learn. Nothing wrong with sync for advanced DJ's or people just wanting to have a bit of fun but anyone who wants to make a profession out of DJing should be pretty dam good at beat matching to save their own ass when technology fails.
Cole Maroto 18.09.2012	Originally Posted by DemiAlex Yeah I was at a friends party and I was watching the DJ do his thing, and at one point he let me take the reigns and showed me what each knob does, basically the bare basics. I found hitting auto sync was very boring and took out of majority of the experience in mixing. To practice manual beat matching, does it just involve cuing to the right time on the next track? i find it a little odd that your first time on the decks you found it to be boring because of sync. i hate to tell you but manual beatmatching isn't going to add a level of excitement to mixing, really. it least it doesn't for me, but i guess everyone is different. it will just add more time into auditioning songs and lining them up for you next mix. plus once you get it down after some practice you should be able to get the beats pretty close in a fairly quick amount of time. also, since you have never djed before that, how do you know that using sync is taking out the majority of the experience of mixing? you have no experience in beatmatching to compare it to. with that said, i feel that every dj should learn how to beatmatch. start by using sync to get used to picking the right songs and honing the moods that need to be created. it also gets you up to speed on phrasing and how to keep your levels/eq nice and smooth without worrying about drifting beats. once you are more comfortable with that you can turn sync off and go old fashioned depending what gear you get. a lot of controllers give you this option by including pitch faders and jog wheels. after that you could try your hand on cdjs, but the real king is a set of turntables. the best is to try and keep 2 warped records in time...whoooooo, now that can be a little exciting! constantly on the edge of a trainwrecking suckas! to answer your question, beatmatching is simply keeping the beats running at exactly the same tempo and nudging them (or riding the pitch fader) as needed. you need to have them drift as little as possible. hitting the cue at the right time is about phrasing: http://www.djranking s.com/2009/01/2...e-perfect-mix/
Antonetta Wikel 18.09.2012	Originally Posted by LoopCat What happens when some one hands you some headphones and you have to mix out of a record with your CDJ and you don't know how to beat match properly without BPM counters? SCREWED! Mixing on turntables isn't that hard but not relying on just BMP readouts is essential I totally agree, unfortunately it seems that the latest trend is for DJs to let the last DJ's track play out and then they start their set. It totally sucks and breaks up the vibe for me. I love to hear DJs mix into other DJs.
Ming Devis 18.09.2012	Originally Posted by DJDoubleYou Beatmatching (on Cd players) is verrrrry eazy, match the BPM's pres cue at the right time and if you make an mistake correct it with the jogwheels. You can learn this in 1 hour (probably less) just disable the phase-meters in traktor. On the other hand is the tempo-matching on the TT, this is verrrry hard and requires a lot of skill and training. You probably want to learn this on real TT's but this skill is not something you would need in clubs or something. Tough it is fun to be able to do it and a usefull training for your mixing skills in general. What happens when some one hands you some headphones and you have to mix out of a record with your CDJ and you don't know how to beat match properly without BPM counters? SCREWED! Mixing on turntables isn't that hard but not relying on just BMP readouts is essential
Jerica Salava 18.09.2012	Originally Posted by Stewe Open traktor and tick the metronome. Now, cue some kickdrum and try to play rhythm in that same bpm until you feel it, then play loop from first player and try to beatmach to metronome by ears. Leave that loop then and cut lows on EQ so you can from second player apply kickdrum technique on top of track and jam on it! Remember what metronomes are for and use it till it gets boring... You'll mix like a boss already. first he needs Traktor
Stanley Topoleski 18.09.2012	Originally Posted by DemiAlex Yeah I was at a friends party and I was watching the DJ do his thing, and at one point he let me take the reigns and showed me what each knob does, basically the bare basics. I found hitting auto sync was very boring and took out of majority of the experience in mixing. To practice manual beat matching, does it just involve cuing to the right time on the next track? sync does have its uses, but can get boring. anyway for beat matching just make sure the 2 songs are in the same tempo. try and hit play accurately... move the pitch faders up and down to change the speed getting the song to sync properly its easy once you get the hang of it, but takes lots of practice
Iluminada Vandevoort 20.09.2012	I'm kinda stuck on what controller to get. I was considering the numtrack pro, and the s2 but the s2 seems like it's overpriced for what it offers. I really wanted to get the Denon Mc2000 as a previous user mentioned, seems like the perfect controller for a beginner, but does anyone have a due date for its release? What about the Hercules Console RMX? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...SIN=B0018CEOA6
Antonetta Wikel 20.09.2012	Yes, I've seen/heard quite a few "newer" generation DJ's and even some pretty popular DJs fade out the previous DJs track and start their set. Once they're into their set they're beatmatching whether with sync or by ear makes little difference. Sometimes it's becuase the promoter doesn't know how to program a evening , ie. a house DJ playing at 124 BPM into a Techno DJ wanting to play 128-130. Other times it's just that the oncoming DJ doesn't want to "take the time" to progress from the previous DJ's sound to their own (I believe this is a bit of a cop out, personally. Good DJs can smoothily mix out of anybody and get to the groove they're trying to lay down IMO) Just an observation I've been seeing more and more in the last few years.
Iluminada Vandevoort 19.09.2012	Originally Posted by SirReal I totally agree, unfortunately it seems that the latest trend is for DJs to let the last DJ's track play out and then they start their set. It totally sucks and breaks up the vibe for me. I love to hear DJs mix into other DJs. So current Dj's tend to let a song play out until it's near the end, and just sync another track? Isn't that just the same thing as having an ipod on shuffle? I always thought mixing contained a track that plays until a certain point, then another track plays overlooping the current playing track?
Jerica Salava 19.09.2012	Originally Posted by SirReal I totally agree, unfortunately it seems that the latest trend is for DJs to let the last DJ's track play out and then they start their set. It totally sucks and breaks up the vibe for me. I love to hear DJs mix into other DJs. WTF ? Is this really going on? Thank god I play with real DJ's that mix out of my tracks. That's one of the funnest parts. Especially, when they're sizing you up and you rock a mix out of their track without looking at their screen (BPM). Then they disconnect and give you the "Respect" look. >
Cole Maroto 18.09.2012	Originally Posted by LoopCat You get a tone of satisfaction from learning beat matching! It can be hard having to actually learn your music and take time figuring out the tempo and phrasing opposed to downloading a thousands mp3's and syncing them all together without caring. Doing things the hard way is the best way to learn. Nothing wrong with sync for advanced DJ's or people just wanting to have a bit of fun but anyone who wants to make a profession out of DJing should be pretty dam good at beat matching to save their own ass when technology fails. sure, i agree that learning something is very satisfying (including beatmatching) but to me that's not the most important part. i believe it's far more satisfying to learn how to phrase properly and get a mix that isn't clashing between that and being out of key. there's also a difference between something being satisfying and exciting, but eh, semantics. both of those feelings are fleeting after you get the skills down and it just becomes part of what you have to do to mix properly. i would say that if someone is downloading a thousand mp3s and syncing them without caring, then maybe they should examine why they are djing. i would argue that beatmatching adds little to making someone care about music, but again that's my experience and i generally don't want to worry about that when i'm djing any more. i've been there and done that, and for the most part it's over though i do like to get my records out and go old school every now and then for sure. i also don't believe that doing things the hard way is necessarily the best method for everyone to learn. maybe for you it was, but maybe for someone else it won't be. maybe some people already have enough to deal with in the beginning and would rather not worry about banging their head against beatmatching on top of all the other stuff. it's a personal journey that every person needs to figure out on their own. i'm currently teaching my gf how to dj using my vci-400 ege and i believe that's what is best for her. if she had to try and fumble around with records at this point she would just get frustrated and give up i believe. i'm prone to agree that all djs should know how to beatmatch, just in case they ever need it (much like learning how to drive manual in a car). it's also a good way to respect the history of what we are doing, but i don't believe it's absolutely necessary in today's day and age.
Ming Devis 18.09.2012	Originally Posted by squidot i find it a little odd that your first time on the decks you found it to be boring because of sync. i hate to tell you but manual beatmatching isn't going to add a level of excitement to mixing, really. it least it doesn't for me, but i guess everyone is different. it will just add more time into auditioning songs and lining them up for you next mix. plus once you get it down after some practice you should be able to get the beats pretty close in a fairly quick amount of time. also, since you have never djed before that, how do you know that using sync is taking out the majority of the experience of mixing? you have no experience in beatmatching to compare it to. with that said, i feel that every dj should learn how to beatmatch. start by using sync to get used to picking the right songs and honing the moods that need to be created. it also gets you up to speed on phrasing and how to keep your levels/eq nice and smooth without worrying about drifting beats. once you are more comfortable with that you can turn sync off and go old fashioned depending what gear you get. a lot of controllers give you this option by including pitch faders and jog wheels. after that you could try your hand on cdjs, but the real king is a set of turntables. the best is to try and keep 2 warped records in time...whoooooo, now that can be a little exciting! constantly on the edge of a trainwrecking suckas! to answer your question, beatmatching is simply keeping the beats running at exactly the same tempo and nudging them (or riding the pitch fader) as needed. you need to have them drift as little as possible. hitting the cue at the right time is about phrasing: http://www.djranking s.com/2009/01/2...e-perfect-mix/ You get a tone of satisfaction from learning beat matching! It can be hard having to actually learn your music and take time figuring out the tempo and phrasing opposed to downloading a thousands mp3's and syncing them all together without caring. Doing things the hard way is the best way to learn. Nothing wrong with sync for advanced DJ's or people just wanting to have a bit of fun but anyone who wants to make a profession out of DJing should be pretty dam good at beat matching to save their own ass when technology fails.
Cole Maroto 18.09.2012	Originally Posted by DemiAlex Yeah I was at a friends party and I was watching the DJ do his thing, and at one point he let me take the reigns and showed me what each knob does, basically the bare basics. I found hitting auto sync was very boring and took out of majority of the experience in mixing. To practice manual beat matching, does it just involve cuing to the right time on the next track? i find it a little odd that your first time on the decks you found it to be boring because of sync. i hate to tell you but manual beatmatching isn't going to add a level of excitement to mixing, really. it least it doesn't for me, but i guess everyone is different. it will just add more time into auditioning songs and lining them up for you next mix. plus once you get it down after some practice you should be able to get the beats pretty close in a fairly quick amount of time. also, since you have never djed before that, how do you know that using sync is taking out the majority of the experience of mixing? you have no experience in beatmatching to compare it to. with that said, i feel that every dj should learn how to beatmatch. start by using sync to get used to picking the right songs and honing the moods that need to be created. it also gets you up to speed on phrasing and how to keep your levels/eq nice and smooth without worrying about drifting beats. once you are more comfortable with that you can turn sync off and go old fashioned depending what gear you get. a lot of controllers give you this option by including pitch faders and jog wheels. after that you could try your hand on cdjs, but the real king is a set of turntables. the best is to try and keep 2 warped records in time...whoooooo, now that can be a little exciting! constantly on the edge of a trainwrecking suckas! to answer your question, beatmatching is simply keeping the beats running at exactly the same tempo and nudging them (or riding the pitch fader) as needed. you need to have them drift as little as possible. hitting the cue at the right time is about phrasing: http://www.djranking s.com/2009/01/2...e-perfect-mix/
Antonetta Wikel 18.09.2012	Originally Posted by LoopCat What happens when some one hands you some headphones and you have to mix out of a record with your CDJ and you don't know how to beat match properly without BPM counters? SCREWED! Mixing on turntables isn't that hard but not relying on just BMP readouts is essential I totally agree, unfortunately it seems that the latest trend is for DJs to let the last DJ's track play out and then they start their set. It totally sucks and breaks up the vibe for me. I love to hear DJs mix into other DJs.
Ming Devis 18.09.2012	Originally Posted by DJDoubleYou Beatmatching (on Cd players) is verrrrry eazy, match the BPM's pres cue at the right time and if you make an mistake correct it with the jogwheels. You can learn this in 1 hour (probably less) just disable the phase-meters in traktor. On the other hand is the tempo-matching on the TT, this is verrrry hard and requires a lot of skill and training. You probably want to learn this on real TT's but this skill is not something you would need in clubs or something. Tough it is fun to be able to do it and a usefull training for your mixing skills in general. What happens when some one hands you some headphones and you have to mix out of a record with your CDJ and you don't know how to beat match properly without BPM counters? SCREWED! Mixing on turntables isn't that hard but not relying on just BMP readouts is essential
Jerica Salava 18.09.2012	Originally Posted by Stewe Open traktor and tick the metronome. Now, cue some kickdrum and try to play rhythm in that same bpm until you feel it, then play loop from first player and try to beatmach to metronome by ears. Leave that loop then and cut lows on EQ so you can from second player apply kickdrum technique on top of track and jam on it! Remember what metronomes are for and use it till it gets boring... You'll mix like a boss already. first he needs Traktor
Elmira Billard 18.09.2012	Agree with getting basic setup first. Get creative and push the basic gear to see what it can do. Then later, you can trade up as you gain experience and skill. Bonus - when you do, you get to be as excited as you are now all over again!
Kellie Myrum 18.09.2012	Open traktor and tick the metronome. Now, cue some kickdrum and try to play rhythm in that same bpm until you feel it, then play loop from first player and try to beatmach to metronome by ears. Leave that loop then and cut lows on EQ so you can from second player apply kickdrum technique on top of track and jam on it! Remember what metronomes are for and use it till it gets boring... You'll mix like a boss already.
Stanley Topoleski 18.09.2012	Originally Posted by DemiAlex Yeah I was at a friends party and I was watching the DJ do his thing, and at one point he let me take the reigns and showed me what each knob does, basically the bare basics. I found hitting auto sync was very boring and took out of majority of the experience in mixing. To practice manual beat matching, does it just involve cuing to the right time on the next track? sync does have its uses, but can get boring. anyway for beat matching just make sure the 2 songs are in the same tempo. try and hit play accurately... move the pitch faders up and down to change the speed getting the song to sync properly its easy once you get the hang of it, but takes lots of practice
Celine Surico 18.09.2012	If you want to be creative and don't mind using sync, try to mix together two tracks + two samples at the same time. For me, manual beat sync:ing is as exciting as brushing the teeth. It has to be done, but that's it. Creative mixing is far beyond beat sync.
Iluminada Vandevoort 18.09.2012	Yeah I was at a friends party and I was watching the DJ do his thing, and at one point he let me take the reigns and showed me what each knob does, basically the bare basics. I found hitting auto sync was very boring and took out of majority of the experience in mixing. To practice manual beat matching, does it just involve cuing to the right time on the next track?
Stanley Topoleski 18.09.2012	what ever you do i would recommend learning some traditional DJing styles. Its always good if you know how to beatmatch (rather then hit sync) and scratch, Just for learning sake
Era Roka 18.09.2012	Beatmatching (on Cd players) is verrrrry eazy, match the BPM's pres cue at the right time and if you make an mistake correct it with the jogwheels. You can learn this in 1 hour (probably less) just disable the phase-meters in traktor. On the other hand is the tempo-matching on the TT, this is verrrry hard and requires a lot of skill and training. You probably want to learn this on real TT's but this skill is not something you would need in clubs or something. Tough it is fun to be able to do it and a usefull training for your mixing skills in general.
Jerica Salava 18.09.2012	Originally Posted by Stewe Denon MC 3000 is build like a tenk, for beginner it's more then good start. Stand alone mixer and audio interface all in one. yeah sorry. I meant the Denon MC 2000. I agree the MC 3000 is amazing. But, it's $500 and it comes with Virtual DJ LE.
Iluminada Vandevoort 18.09.2012	Wow, thanks everyone for answering my questions! Definitely feel a lot more comfortable in regards to what I should purchase. The Denon MC 2000 looks like the perfect beginners controller, definately going to check it out on Ebay as well as the S2. I thought having good studio headphones is absolutely essential? Doesn't it provide a more clearer sound compared to other headphones which enables you to distort the sound in a more technical manner? Also, if I my primary goal was to become a resident at a club (and yes, I'm well aware of the amount of work and dedication it'll require to reach that level), wouldn't I be better off learning from using a CDJ instead of a controller? Or does using a controller over time give you a basic sense on how to use a CDJ? Last question in regards to syncing and auto syncing, is this considered a "cheap" method compared to manually beat matching? What is the most effective way in learning how to manually match bpms?
Kellie Myrum 18.09.2012	Denon MC 3000 is build like a tenk, for beginner it's more then good start. Stand alone mixer and audio interface all in one.
Jerica Salava 19.09.2012	Originally Posted by Stewe If you're beginner then pick up some cheaper controller and start to practice from there... and i believe you should get the Denon MC 2000. It comes with Serato Intro which will let you learn Seratos interface. It's $299 and the full version software is free. In my opinion it's the highest quality controller and software combination for the price. Please DO NOT spend $200 on headphones. Headphones do not make you a better DJ. My headphones were $59 (Sennheiser HD205) and I've had them for 6 years. Plus you have to remember that this is technology. Just like cellphones, it keeps improving and the midi controllers and CDJ's from 4 years ago are considered out dated. >
Ossie Pooley 18.09.2012	Mixtrack and Headphones are a very very good way to get the basics down
Kellie Myrum 18.09.2012	If you're beginner then pick up some cheaper controller and start to practice from there... Choose software you like the most, give it some, use it and as time will pass you'll know is that what really suits your workflow. Good thing around controllers are mappings that make things a lot easier and flexible when you dig into programing unit in the way you like and bring some elements in to mix that some of CDJs aren't designed for.
Era Roka 18.09.2012	actually you can do far more with an S4 than with a set of 2000's. let's just say that everything you can do with the 2000's is just as easy and possible with an controller
Ming Devis 18.09.2012	^ Great advice there. A cheap controller is great for beginners, the learning curve is pretty quick and it's in-expensive. Down the track though if you really enjoy it and would like to start gigging consider at least getting some cheap direct drive turntables and some real vinyl and time code to practice beat matching on before you start trying to get gigs. Knowing how to beat match by ear is a skill every DJ should learn, and if you can beat match with some TT's CDJ's are really easy.
Cole Maroto 17.09.2012	Originally Posted by DemiAlex My concern is that, is it worth getting a midi controller instead of a CDJ? From what I've gathered, CDJ provides a more suitable "clubbing" environment, and it's the real deal, rather then a midi controller connected to a laptop. It also seems like midi controllers are somewhat limited? In terms of progression, it seems like midi controllers are only useful to learn the basics, not to progress onto bigger gigs and events. sure it's worth it and there are big name djs who use x1s and a mixers when djing in clubs. i know other semi famous djs who use all in one controllers as well. the standard install in a large club will probably be high end cdjs, 900 or 2000 (maybe the 2000 nexus here real quick) with a djm 900 or 800/850. smaller venues may have lesser end pioneer gear. in the states there is almost always a serato box to use alongside the cdjs with your laptop. with that said you are most likely YEARS away from gigging in big clubs, if you ever get the shot. not to sound negative but it's unlikely you will get your wings and just jump right into big gigs in the immediate future, so a controller is fine to learn and get smaller gigs at house parties and bars to start. if you can start making money from it then upgrade your gear while selling your old gear. I'm not looking to DJ/produce as a hobby, I'm looking to progress as far as I can as I simply love music. well, a lot of people get into djing with this exact thought and then start only to find out it's really not their thing. the only way to find out is to give it a go. i hope you do continue on if you truly love it. in my opinion you should do that with as little money as possible. try out the software demos of traktor, ableton, vdj, and serato using your keyboard & mouse and see what you believe about them. What are the essential gear s required for Djing? Aside from speakers and mics, only speaking in terms of the core software required. that really depends on how you want to dj for now. if you want to use a controller you will need a laptop and software. or you can go with cheaper cdjs and mixers. you will also need monitors (or even a home stereo system), headphones and cables to hook it all up. also, a soundcard. i don't find a mic necessary for me personally but i suppose it depends on how much you want to talk over your mix. be careful with this though... I've heard that clubs don't generally accept a DJ that uses a controller, is this true? If so, are most clubs expecting a CDJ? depends on the club and who you are. do you believe a club is going to turn down tiesto if he wanted to use a controller? nope. as stated above many clubs in the states will have cdjs installed as the standard. Basically my question is; I really don't want to spend 500 dollars on an gear which is only suitable for learning the basics, I'm looking to buy gear which is suitable for gigs and bigger events, that I can progress with it in a long term basis. if you have club level cdjs in mind then your going to need to add another 0 (plus some) onto the end of that. in my opinion a controller is a perfectly suitable entry level piece of gear that you can learn on and get smaller gigs with. progression is great but you need to learn the basics first and a controller is perfect for that. if you have $5000+ to get into some cdjs with a pio mixer for your first setup, by all means go for it, but they are not really going to make you any better at being a dj than a controller will. it would also be a shame to spend that much to realize you aren't that into djing. I'm just so ecstatic and excited to start learning and dedicate the majority of my time for this beautiful art Any help would be much appreciated! good luck and i hope you end up loving it as much as most of the rest of us. it takes a lot of time and work to get everything the way you like it and you may go through a few setups before you find your magic buttons. i've been through technics, vinyl, cdjs, and finally onto controllers and i believe they all have their place and positives. i still enjoy using them all at certain times. you just have to experiment. i've spent many years digging for music and countless hours, sorting, organizing and tagging my collection. do some research, get some gear, and practice as much as you can. record every set you do so you can listen back, learn from your mistakes, and remember your triumphs. have fun!

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