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two tempos, one track, how may beat grids?
Posted on: 09.11.2010 by Felisa Cicio
hey, i mix drum and bass but there are a few dubstep and house songs i also like. as you know the tempos are different,

I have a few songs which start at 174 and then have sections of 140, ideal spots to mix dubstep.

however the beatgrid is wrong at these parts as its too fast. is there nay way to make two separate beatgrids? so i can use these songs to convert from one bpm to the other?
Felisa Cicio
09.11.2010
Originally Posted by theory28

come on guys, this is weak.... i know its a prominently digital dj community , but really?
you've misunderstood.

i know how to do it and can do it, but i was wondering if theres a way to do it using the beat grid system, if you read the other posts you'll see what i mean.
Felisa Cicio
09.11.2010
Originally Posted by djchriswoods.co.uk
this prob won't help, but on friday evening s i play at a fairly commercial venue 5mins from my house, very handy and ok money, lol but anyway....i find myself mixing some rnb around the 70bpm range with dubstep around the 140bpm range, and just use the divide by 2 button in the grid
yeah thats not a problem. its just dubstep and drum and bass i cant do
Felisa Cicio
09.11.2010
hey, i mix drum and bass but there are a few dubstep and house songs i also like. as you know the tempos are different,

I have a few songs which start at 174 and then have sections of 140, ideal spots to mix dubstep.

however the beatgrid is wrong at these parts as its too fast. is there nay way to make two separate beatgrids? so i can use these songs to convert from one bpm to the other?
Felisa Cicio
09.11.2010
yeah, il have carry on using these work arounds. i just thought i might have missed a trick
Maisie Marras
09.11.2010
ok then.

i believe you can (im not sure if this was said) fill up your cuepoints, go to the breakdown, set a grid marker on each beat (precision is key)
then delete all those extra cuepoints you added to fill the 8 slots
Latoria Kavulich
09.11.2010
you can isolate that section of the track by dropping another grid marker just before the tempo change and also when it changes back. so you will have 3 grid markers, the original grid and a section (which wont be gridded because traktor cant do it).
Teresia Janusch
09.11.2010
lol fair enough point really.
Felisa Cicio
09.11.2010
Originally Posted by theory28

come on guys, this is weak.... i know its a prominently digital dj community , but really?
you've misunderstood.

i know how to do it and can do it, but i was wondering if theres a way to do it using the beat grid system, if you read the other posts you'll see what i mean.
Maisie Marras
09.11.2010
um... well, make sure you know the exact bpm of the brake down

make the dubstep track that speed

hit play on the intro of the dubstep track durring the verry start (or when ever you need it) of the break down

pitchbend by ear.




come on guys, this is weak.... i know its a prominently digital dj community , but really?
Felisa Cicio
09.11.2010
Originally Posted by djchriswoods.co.uk
this prob won't help, but on friday evening s i play at a fairly commercial venue 5mins from my house, very handy and ok money, lol but anyway....i find myself mixing some rnb around the 70bpm range with dubstep around the 140bpm range, and just use the divide by 2 button in the grid
yeah thats not a problem. its just dubstep and drum and bass i cant do
Teresia Janusch
09.11.2010
this prob won't help, but on friday evening s i play at a fairly commercial venue 5mins from my house, very handy and ok money, lol but anyway....i find myself mixing some rnb around the 70bpm range with dubstep around the 140bpm range, and just use the divide by 2 button in the grid
Felisa Cicio
09.11.2010
yeah thats true, bt id never play that song ^
Tatum Ansaldo
09.11.2010
There are songs with 175 and 140BPM, like the TC remix of B.O.B. Nothin' on you:

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Felisa Cicio
09.11.2010
ah, thats not ideal - shames theres no way around it.

my bad. i meant 130. but i usually speed it up to 140 and tap to change the grid on the fly, it snot something i want to do when recording or anything like that.

theres quarks by dirtyphonics, the genesis device track which is the one i was working with a few months ago, but also one called Dakota by Camo and Krooked which i'd like to use.

other songs like this are dj fresh gold dust vent remix.
Marguerite Salsedo
09.11.2010
Traktor can't have two bpms for one song... best would be to have two copies of the track, one with the DnB beat grid another with a beat grid set for the Dubstep bit, then just cut from one to the other at the appropriate time, song goes on, you get the bpm you want to then mix in some dubstep...
I'm curious, which songs have the 140 sections? I usually come across ~130 sections (songs like: Vandals by Dirtyphonics, Annihilation by The Sect and Genesis Device by Audio)
Felisa Cicio
09.11.2010
this is using traktor btw

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