Poorly Mixed Drum and Bass

Poorly Mixed Drum and Bass
Posted on: 10.11.2010 by Joie Cantillon
My first attempt with the record button on in TPro, Nothing fancy (loops, chained FX, mixing skill) and I messed up at the end and pushed the cup button on the playing deck at the end. Also, it was made at a pretty low volume on some terrible speakers with no cue channel used (my sound card keeps on BSOD in Win 7) anyway here's the tracklist lemme know what you believe

Drum and Bass mix

Tracklist:
Rockwell - Underpass
Spor - Overdue
Commix - Be True
Break - People are Different
Rockwell - Shards
S.P.Y. - System Crash
Kama - Tears of Jah
BCee and Lomax - Dust Till Dawn
CLS and Wax - Broken
Ultima C - Side By Side
Filibration - Behind It
Ultima C - Seven Days
Felisa Cicio
11.11.2010
[quote=Flash101uk;178913]
Originally Posted by bigheadmikelove

This is also another reason to look into a dvs setup. I dont know where your from so I cant speak for your local area, but I can for mine (midlands, UK). If you ever want to play out dnb in your local underground you wont be taken seriously if you dont use at least a DVS and manually beatmatch. It sucks, I know. But turntables are sexy
i truly hate how people are more concerned with the method then the end product. its as bad as a primary school maths teacher!
Joie Cantillon
10.11.2010
Originally Posted by murtis
not sure if its timeless, but its one of my favourite labels. DJ Friendly unit shifter / fakin jacks is one of their best in a while.

however, id say metalheadz offer more solid tracks
haven't heard this, who is it by and why isn't it on beatport. And yeah, Metalheadz is, at least to an uncultured Okie like myself, the absolute best drum and bass going I need to get some in on the next mix..
Felisa Cicio
10.11.2010
Originally Posted by Flash101uk
I quite like the ultima C stuff, its a bit borderline cheesy but its got a decent groove.

If you want quality, look no further than shogun audio. Timeless dnb.
not sure if its timeless, but its one of my favourite labels. DJ Friendly unit shifter / fakin jacks is one of their best in a while.

however, id say metalheadz offer more solid tracks
Corrin Penney
10.11.2010
Originally Posted by bigheadmikelove
To be fair neither had I, I was just playing around on Beatport, played a clip of side by side and the wife started gyrating slightly and made noises to the effect of enjoyment so I had to spend a buck fourtynine... It's not terrible, but it's not really my thing either. Thanks for listening to it
I quite like the ultima C stuff, its a bit borderline cheesy but its got a decent groove.

If you want quality, look no further than shogun audio. Timeless dnb.
Joie Cantillon
10.11.2010
Originally Posted by murtis
never heard of ultima c til today
To be fair neither had I, I was just playing around on Beatport, played a clip of side by side and the wife started gyrating slightly and made noises to the effect of enjoyment so I had to spend a buck fourtynine... It's not terrible, but it's not really my thing either. Thanks for listening to it
Felisa Cicio
10.11.2010
Originally Posted by Flash101uk
why not use both!?
could do that. personally i always have problems with soundcloud like waiting for a waveform to load., and the integrated playlists and other stuff makes mixcloud better for me.
Corrin Penney
10.11.2010
Originally Posted by murtis
id suggest a mixcloud account too. its wayyy better.
why not use both!?
Joie Cantillon
10.11.2010
My first attempt with the record button on in TPro, Nothing fancy (loops, chained FX, mixing skill) and I messed up at the end and pushed the cup button on the playing deck at the end. Also, it was made at a pretty low volume on some terrible speakers with no cue channel used (my sound card keeps on BSOD in Win 7) anyway here's the tracklist lemme know what you believe

Drum and Bass mix

Tracklist:
Rockwell - Underpass
Spor - Overdue
Commix - Be True
Break - People are Different
Rockwell - Shards
S.P.Y. - System Crash
Kama - Tears of Jah
BCee and Lomax - Dust Till Dawn
CLS and Wax - Broken
Ultima C - Side By Side
Filibration - Behind It
Ultima C - Seven Days
Felisa Cicio
11.11.2010
[quote=Flash101uk;178913]
Originally Posted by bigheadmikelove

This is also another reason to look into a dvs setup. I dont know where your from so I cant speak for your local area, but I can for mine (midlands, UK). If you ever want to play out dnb in your local underground you wont be taken seriously if you dont use at least a DVS and manually beatmatch. It sucks, I know. But turntables are sexy
i truly hate how people are more concerned with the method then the end product. its as bad as a primary school maths teacher!
Corrin Penney
11.11.2010
[QUOTE=bigheadmikelove;178703]haven't heard this, who is it by and why isn't it on beatport.QUOTE]

It just so happens that youve latched onto a genre which is one of the last great bastions of vinyl. I head out a lot and hear so many frickin awesome dub plates / promos that i'll never own, it makes me sad .

Many new releases come out on vinyl waaaaay before they ever hit beatport.
Ive started actively buying vinyl now and ripping it, desperately in need of good recording needles though.

This is also another reason to look into a dvs setup. I dont know where your from so I cant speak for your local area, but I can for mine (midlands, UK). If you ever want to play out dnb in your local underground you wont be taken seriously if you dont use at least a DVS and manually beatmatch. It sucks, I know. But turntables are sexy
Felisa Cicio
10.11.2010
its my sig now.
Joie Cantillon
10.11.2010
murtis? I search and get no hits...what is your mixcloud acct under
Felisa Cicio
10.11.2010
yup theres a lot of stuff out there, my mixcloud has both minimal and jump up mixes as i go between them so much.
Joie Cantillon
10.11.2010
Well those are most assuredly being purchased on the 15th. Good stuff... I wish I could find more stuff like rockwell. I like the "intelligent" sounding pattern of the drums...
Felisa Cicio
10.11.2010
Fakin Jacks/Dj Friendly Unit Shifter is by Rockwell

heres a clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeYe2hhY-5w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQTiw...eature=related

shogun is more minimal sounding, but this song is big enough for people like Hype to play it.
Joie Cantillon
10.11.2010
Originally Posted by murtis
not sure if its timeless, but its one of my favourite labels. DJ Friendly unit shifter / fakin jacks is one of their best in a while.

however, id say metalheadz offer more solid tracks
haven't heard this, who is it by and why isn't it on beatport. And yeah, Metalheadz is, at least to an uncultured Okie like myself, the absolute best drum and bass going I need to get some in on the next mix..
Felisa Cicio
10.11.2010
Originally Posted by Flash101uk
I quite like the ultima C stuff, its a bit borderline cheesy but its got a decent groove.

If you want quality, look no further than shogun audio. Timeless dnb.
not sure if its timeless, but its one of my favourite labels. DJ Friendly unit shifter / fakin jacks is one of their best in a while.

however, id say metalheadz offer more solid tracks
Corrin Penney
10.11.2010
Originally Posted by bigheadmikelove
To be fair neither had I, I was just playing around on Beatport, played a clip of side by side and the wife started gyrating slightly and made noises to the effect of enjoyment so I had to spend a buck fourtynine... It's not terrible, but it's not really my thing either. Thanks for listening to it
I quite like the ultima C stuff, its a bit borderline cheesy but its got a decent groove.

If you want quality, look no further than shogun audio. Timeless dnb.
Corrin Penney
10.11.2010
As far as getting more "punch" through the mix, I believe it might be a limitation of my speaker setup
Your speaker setup shouldnt matter, youre recording internally in traktor so what you get back from the recording is straight from source.

To get that particular mix sounding better i'd add some more gain to the incoming track so it can take over the mids a bit more and support the outgoing one with the new bassline. That or boost the bass a bit.

if you want a bit more guidance i recommend this article on digital DJ tips:

http://www.digitaldjtips.com/2010/09...ake-a-mixtape/

Its a bit long winded but probably the most in-depth way of making a really nice mix.

Keep your eye on this blog too, theres some great articles on there
Joie Cantillon
10.11.2010
Originally Posted by murtis
never heard of ultima c til today
To be fair neither had I, I was just playing around on Beatport, played a clip of side by side and the wife started gyrating slightly and made noises to the effect of enjoyment so I had to spend a buck fourtynine... It's not terrible, but it's not really my thing either. Thanks for listening to it
Joie Cantillon
10.11.2010
I appreciate the response, as far as my setup I'm using the sync button, no manual beatmatching for me and I'm running a bcd3000 and a kontrol x1. As far as the effects, actually you are hearing the beatslicer with the buzz off rather than the beatmasher. I've just had more luck with it. On to the comments on the mixes.

when I listen to the "be true" > "people are different" mix I just hear something that is almost too busy. As far as getting more "punch" through the mix, I believe it might be a limitation of my speaker setup, and it also might clean up the busy-ness of the sound to me. What would you suggest to get it sounding better?

The Filibration track (and the ultima c stuff for that matter) doesn't fit the mix, when I listened to it earlier it almost seemed like a "hey it's jump up time!" sort of moment. They got put in because they were new (to me at least) and really this was a fuck around type of mix.

Again, glad you liked the mix. Thanks for the vote of confidence, I was kinda being snarky, I'll be a bit more positive next time. And possibly put some forethought into making the whole thing (and that delay echo thing sounds like something I should work on)
Marguerite Salsedo
10.11.2010
Good mix man! Gonna agree with Flash that the Fillibration track didn't really seem to fit, also that you should be more confident in your abilities.
What with all these drum & bass mixes popping up, I'll have to record one this weekend, none of the ones I've listened to have had dark and crazy stuff
Felisa Cicio
10.11.2010
Originally Posted by Flash101uk
why not use both!?
could do that. personally i always have problems with soundcloud like waiting for a waveform to load., and the integrated playlists and other stuff makes mixcloud better for me.
Corrin Penney
10.11.2010
Originally Posted by murtis
id suggest a mixcloud account too. its wayyy better.
why not use both!?
Felisa Cicio
10.11.2010
id suggest a mixcloud account too. its wayyy better.
Corrin Penney
10.11.2010
To be fair mate, its not bad at all. Your phrase and key matching are spot on. The EQ is good, consistent and a decent song choice too. What kind of setup are you running? Manual beatmatching?

Anyway, my comments.

Be True > people are different works really nice but the break track needed more punch &/ gain. The vocal hook works really well over the top too, although i believe a delay echo would work better than dropping it out quickly, it looses energy.

Dust Till Dawn > Broken, nice bass switch, it worked well and kept the energy. You should try and fit in more of this type of mixing.

side by side, nice tasteful beatmasher usage, not over-done

Filibration - Behind It, im not sure this sat very well between those 2 ultima C songs. Theyre just too different.

The rest of the mixes worked very well.

Overall the main thing you need to work on is your self confidence, and presenting your mix in an appealing way. Not too many people are gonna bother with 'poorly mixed drum & bass'. Give the next one a catchy name
Felisa Cicio
10.11.2010
never heard of ultima c til today

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