Track markers in ONE mp3 without splitting? Possible? |
Virgie Igler
22.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
Now we need to verify if you can upload your mix to Soundcloud. When your friends download it from Soundcloud, does it load up exactly like your pictures?
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Hey guys,
So i tried it with Garageband (you have to select to do a podcast). Garageband is actually better than the method I posted earlier. With the previous version there was a tiny gap between each of the chapters, whereas with the garageband version there is absolutely no gap and it's one complete seamless mix.
I feel like an idiot for paying the $5 for the other app, but hey I can still use it for other things.
As for soundcloud...if soundcloud accepts AAC then it should definitely be able to be downloaded as is when people download it from your soundcloud page. Essentially soundcloud doesn't alter the file that gets downloaded, it just alters the audio that is used in the soundcloud audio player so that it streams better, but if you upload a mix with your pictures and markers all in the AAC file it will be exactly as you had it when you uploaded.
Hope that helps guys! |
Jerica Salava
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by bmo
yea i realized that, just afterwards. I must admit though, this app really does it all (it allows you to set individual cover art for each track, etc). And it is extremely simple.
I'll try it out with garageband toevening
and let you know which one works out better.
I've always had bad luck with garageband in the past, and that is why i choose to do all my audio edits and exporting in audacity, or somewhere else.
Here's some screens of how my finished mix ended up. These were taken from an iphone 4.
sweet ! |
Virgie Igler
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by ellgieff
Dude. If you're on a Mac, Garageband does a more than passable job of creating enhanced AAC podcasts, with not only tracksplits, but (if you like) individual cover art for each track.
No need to spend money
Yea I realized that, just afterwards. I must admit though, this app really does it all (it allows you to set individual cover art for each track, etc). And it is extremely simple.
I'll try it out with Garageband toevening
and let you know which one works out better.
I've always had bad luck with Garageband in the past, and that is why I choose to do all my audio edits and exporting in Audacity, or somewhere else.
Here's some screens of how my finished mix ended up. These were taken from an iPhone 4.
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Jerica Salava
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by bmo
Hey guys. Little update. I wasn't able to use the original method posted by loverocket because mountain lion doesn't support it. BUT I was able to purchase an app on the mac app store called "audiobook builder" for $5 and it does it beautifully well. it took me like 3 hours to figure out where the chapters were on itunes. So i thought it wasn't working for the longest time. But nonetheless I now have my mix in one AAC file. and it's under songs. When i play it on my iphone it plays normally without any gaps, but it allows me to skip to each song that I set up, as well it gives me the option to look at all the songs in my mix in order and allows me to select a section to go to (they're all labeled with the track names). All in all i'm pretty pleased. Now let's see if people will actually make use of it or not lol.
try it with Garageband and let us now which method is better.
Cheers.
> |
Rosenda Gossage
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by bmo
Hey guys. Little update. I wasn't able to use the original method posted by loverocket because mountain lion doesn't support it. BUT I was able to purchase an app on the mac app store called "audiobook builder" for $5 and it does it beautifully well. it took me like 3 hours to figure out where the chapters were on itunes. So i thought it wasn't working for the longest time. But nonetheless I now have my mix in one AAC file. and it's under songs. When i play it on my iphone it plays normally without any gaps, but it allows me to skip to each song that I set up, as well it gives me the option to look at all the songs in my mix in order and allows me to select a section to go to (they're all labeled with the track names). All in all i'm pretty pleased. Now let's see if people will actually make use of it or not lol.
Dude. If you're on a Mac, Garageband does a more than passable job of creating enhanced AAC podcasts, with not only tracksplits, but (if you like) individual cover art for each track.
No need to spend money |
Jerica Salava
20.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by AllDay
My point right here. Right arm bro!
I fail at explaining myself on these community
s I swear.
Soundowl while were at it. Since they don't reject DJ edits like Soundcloud.
> |
Tera Baragan
20.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by ksandvik
I believe he speaks of both :-). Soundcloud to download mixes (AAC is fine), Mixcloud to share mixes via Mixcloud (not 100% sure it accepts AAC.) But Mixcloud has its own UI to set the track info on the mix, anyway.
My point right here. Right arm bro!
I fail at explaining myself on these community
s I swear. |
Celine Surico
20.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
he's talking about sharing his mixes with his friends. you do that with Soundcloud/Mixcloud.
I believe he speaks of both :-). Soundcloud to download mixes (AAC is fine), Mixcloud to share mixes via Mixcloud (not 100% sure it accepts AAC.) But Mixcloud has its own UI to set the track info on the mix, anyway. |
Jerica Salava
20.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by AllDay
Hes talking about playing on an ipod or cd. Not uploading to mixcloud.
he's talking about sharing his mixes with his friends. you do that with Soundcloud/Mixcloud. |
Tera Baragan
20.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by ksandvik
I'm not sure MixCloud accepts AAC uploads. Anyway, it's a no-brainer to also make an MP3 file, I'm using 320k files for Mixcloud, suspect they stream 128k but it does not hurt to always try to upload best quality.
BTW the new Fission 2 up at the Mac App store could do AAC indexing!
Hes talking about playing on an ipod or cd. Not uploading to mixcloud. |
Jerica Salava
20.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by AllDay
Upping to SC isn't my worries. It would be if I wanted to make a mix cd and give them out to people. I don't the AAC is all that well recognized on cd players and the like.
Who knows tho.
my point is that people who download your mix from soundcloud could have an indexed AAC file, instead of one long MP3 file. Like the OP said, then people can skip forward or backward (like a CD) from their iPhone/Android device. |
Virgie Igler
22.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
Now we need to verify if you can upload your mix to Soundcloud. When your friends download it from Soundcloud, does it load up exactly like your pictures?
>
Hey guys,
So i tried it with Garageband (you have to select to do a podcast). Garageband is actually better than the method I posted earlier. With the previous version there was a tiny gap between each of the chapters, whereas with the garageband version there is absolutely no gap and it's one complete seamless mix.
I feel like an idiot for paying the $5 for the other app, but hey I can still use it for other things.
As for soundcloud...if soundcloud accepts AAC then it should definitely be able to be downloaded as is when people download it from your soundcloud page. Essentially soundcloud doesn't alter the file that gets downloaded, it just alters the audio that is used in the soundcloud audio player so that it streams better, but if you upload a mix with your pictures and markers all in the AAC file it will be exactly as you had it when you uploaded.
Hope that helps guys! |
Jerica Salava
21.09.2012 | Now we need to verify if you can upload your mix to Soundcloud. When your friends download it from Soundcloud, does it load up exactly like your pictures?
> |
Jerica Salava
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by bmo
yea i realized that, just afterwards. I must admit though, this app really does it all (it allows you to set individual cover art for each track, etc). And it is extremely simple.
I'll try it out with garageband toevening
and let you know which one works out better.
I've always had bad luck with garageband in the past, and that is why i choose to do all my audio edits and exporting in audacity, or somewhere else.
Here's some screens of how my finished mix ended up. These were taken from an iphone 4.
sweet ! |
Leeanna Ayla
21.09.2012 | I second Garage Band because it's free. |
Virgie Igler
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by ellgieff
Dude. If you're on a Mac, Garageband does a more than passable job of creating enhanced AAC podcasts, with not only tracksplits, but (if you like) individual cover art for each track.
No need to spend money
Yea I realized that, just afterwards. I must admit though, this app really does it all (it allows you to set individual cover art for each track, etc). And it is extremely simple.
I'll try it out with Garageband toevening
and let you know which one works out better.
I've always had bad luck with Garageband in the past, and that is why I choose to do all my audio edits and exporting in Audacity, or somewhere else.
Here's some screens of how my finished mix ended up. These were taken from an iPhone 4.
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Jerica Salava
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by bmo
Hey guys. Little update. I wasn't able to use the original method posted by loverocket because mountain lion doesn't support it. BUT I was able to purchase an app on the mac app store called "audiobook builder" for $5 and it does it beautifully well. it took me like 3 hours to figure out where the chapters were on itunes. So i thought it wasn't working for the longest time. But nonetheless I now have my mix in one AAC file. and it's under songs. When i play it on my iphone it plays normally without any gaps, but it allows me to skip to each song that I set up, as well it gives me the option to look at all the songs in my mix in order and allows me to select a section to go to (they're all labeled with the track names). All in all i'm pretty pleased. Now let's see if people will actually make use of it or not lol.
try it with Garageband and let us now which method is better.
Cheers.
> |
Rosenda Gossage
21.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by bmo
Hey guys. Little update. I wasn't able to use the original method posted by loverocket because mountain lion doesn't support it. BUT I was able to purchase an app on the mac app store called "audiobook builder" for $5 and it does it beautifully well. it took me like 3 hours to figure out where the chapters were on itunes. So i thought it wasn't working for the longest time. But nonetheless I now have my mix in one AAC file. and it's under songs. When i play it on my iphone it plays normally without any gaps, but it allows me to skip to each song that I set up, as well it gives me the option to look at all the songs in my mix in order and allows me to select a section to go to (they're all labeled with the track names). All in all i'm pretty pleased. Now let's see if people will actually make use of it or not lol.
Dude. If you're on a Mac, Garageband does a more than passable job of creating enhanced AAC podcasts, with not only tracksplits, but (if you like) individual cover art for each track.
No need to spend money |
Virgie Igler
20.09.2012 | Hey guys. Little update. I wasn't able to use the original method posted by loverocket because mountain lion doesn't support it. BUT I was able to purchase an app on the mac app store called "audiobook builder" for $5 and it does it beautifully well. it took me like 3 hours to figure out where the chapters were on itunes. So i thought it wasn't working for the longest time. But nonetheless I now have my mix in one AAC file. and it's under songs. When i play it on my iphone it plays normally without any gaps, but it allows me to skip to each song that I set up, as well it gives me the option to look at all the songs in my mix in order and allows me to select a section to go to (they're all labeled with the track names). All in all i'm pretty pleased. Now let's see if people will actually make use of it or not lol. |
Jerica Salava
20.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by AllDay
My point right here. Right arm bro!
I fail at explaining myself on these community
s I swear.
Soundowl while were at it. Since they don't reject DJ edits like Soundcloud.
> |
Tera Baragan
20.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by ksandvik
I believe he speaks of both :-). Soundcloud to download mixes (AAC is fine), Mixcloud to share mixes via Mixcloud (not 100% sure it accepts AAC.) But Mixcloud has its own UI to set the track info on the mix, anyway.
My point right here. Right arm bro!
I fail at explaining myself on these community
s I swear. |
Celine Surico
20.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
he's talking about sharing his mixes with his friends. you do that with Soundcloud/Mixcloud.
I believe he speaks of both :-). Soundcloud to download mixes (AAC is fine), Mixcloud to share mixes via Mixcloud (not 100% sure it accepts AAC.) But Mixcloud has its own UI to set the track info on the mix, anyway. |
Jerica Salava
20.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by AllDay
Hes talking about playing on an ipod or cd. Not uploading to mixcloud.
he's talking about sharing his mixes with his friends. you do that with Soundcloud/Mixcloud. |
Tera Baragan
20.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by ksandvik
I'm not sure MixCloud accepts AAC uploads. Anyway, it's a no-brainer to also make an MP3 file, I'm using 320k files for Mixcloud, suspect they stream 128k but it does not hurt to always try to upload best quality.
BTW the new Fission 2 up at the Mac App store could do AAC indexing!
Hes talking about playing on an ipod or cd. Not uploading to mixcloud. |
Celine Surico
20.09.2012 | I'm not sure MixCloud accepts AAC uploads. Anyway, it's a no-brainer to also make an MP3 file, I'm using 320k files for Mixcloud, suspect they stream 128k but it does not hurt to always try to upload best quality.
BTW the new Fission 2 up at the Mac App store could do AAC indexing! |
Celine Surico
20.09.2012 | I'm not sure MixCloud accepts AAC uploads. Anyway, it's a no-brainer to also make an MP3 file, I'm using 320k files for Mixcloud, suspect they stream 128k but it does not hurt to always try to upload best quality. |
Jerica Salava
20.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by AllDay
Upping to SC isn't my worries. It would be if I wanted to make a mix cd and give them out to people. I don't the AAC is all that well recognized on cd players and the like.
Who knows tho.
my point is that people who download your mix from soundcloud could have an indexed AAC file, instead of one long MP3 file. Like the OP said, then people can skip forward or backward (like a CD) from their iPhone/Android device. |
Virgie Igler
20.09.2012 | THANKS SO MUCH all of you guys!!
Yea I will try to do it in AAC. Considering all iPods play AAC, and its pretty much a standard now for most players on smartphones, etc. I wouldn't mind using it. I'm not too worried about uploading it online, since I use Mixcloud, which allows me to timestamp my mixes. I was more believeing of people who are listening to my mixes on the bus or while they're working out, and who just wanted to skip a little ahead (because maybe they don't like a particular song). I'll let you guys know if it works!!
Once again thanks so much. |
Celine Surico
20.09.2012 | AAC works with anything decent out there so I would not worry about any odd-ball old players. Use AAC. |
Tera Baragan
20.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by loverocket
Soundcloud says they accept AAC files. I wonder if you could upload an indexed AAC file to Soundloud ?
>
Upping to SC isn't my worries. It would be if I wanted to make a mix cd and give them out to people. I don't the AAC is all that well recognized on cd players and the like.
Who knows tho. |
Jerica Salava
20.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by AllDay
Definitely a good idea. I would need it to be MP3 or a well recognized format tho.
Soundcloud says they accept AAC files. I wonder if you could upload an indexed AAC file to Soundloud ?
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Tera Baragan
20.09.2012 | Definitely a good idea. I would need it to be MP3 or a well recognized format tho. |
Jerica Salava
20.09.2012 | Those ^ are all MAC applications. This is for Windows: http://lodensoftware.com/chapter-and-verse/ |
Jerica Salava
20.09.2012 | I don't believe you can index MP3's
It only works with AAC and other formats.
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Jerica Salava
20.09.2012 | this looks cool too. They call it audiobook maker, but you can use it with music too: http://audiobookmaker.sourceforge.net/
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Jerica Salava
20.09.2012 | here you go http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2010/06...ed-audio-file/
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Virgie Igler
20.09.2012 | After some more research I believe this may be an answer.
Apple.com - Some CDs have tracks that play best without any breaks in between — audiobooks on CD and DJ mixes, for example. iTunes lets you combine tracks so they’re imported as one continuous track that suffers no disruption, even in shuffle mode.
To do this with already existing MP3s (that you've spliced) look here:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread...art=0&tstart=0
Join Together automates the process of joining the files of selected iTunes tracks together with QuickTime and exporting them as a single AAC Music or Audiobook file/track. Optionally, you can then create a "chapterized" audio file of the exported AAC file with pointers to the individually joined tracks.
Definitely a bit more work, but also A LOT less work than making a cue sheet. I'll let you know if it works when I try it out toevening
after work.
cheers, |
