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MIDI Controller under $600
Posted on: 23.09.2012 by Roxy Susano
Hi guys, I have some experience with CDJ's but now I want to buy one MIDI Controller, I have $600 to spend. These are my options after watch and read some reviews in internet. The order is my interest at now:

1 - Denon MC3000 - $499
2 - Denon MC6000 (used) - $???
3 - Reloop Terminal Mixer 4 - $600
4 - Numark iDJ Pro iPad - $500
5 - Numark N4 - $420
6 - Traktor Kontrol S2 - $500
7 - Vestax VCI-300 MK2 - $500
8 - American Audio VMS4.1 - $500
9 - Pioneer DDJ Ergo - $500
10 - Stanton SCS4.DJ - $500


Opinions and pro's / con's of every controller please!
Roxy Susano
25.09.2012
Originally Posted by JSM
I must say I believe I'm a little spoilt too (but i spoiled myself), I have 2 x NI KS4 and 1 x Denon MC6000 and 2 x SC2000's.

The Denons are built brilliantly, solid and they feel it. The S4 is much lighter, plastic but if you want control over Traktor Pro, it's the only way to go.

But if you put the S4 into a road ready flightcase, you don't notice the plastic.

You should try them out for yourself, don't believe us, 'cos you may not have the same opinion.


Yeah, I take my decision for Denon. I don't use Traktor, so i believe this is the best option for me



About the english course, TnX guys

So now i know i have two ways to say the same thing, depends that where I am

But I believe I'm fine with my english no?! You can understand me, that's great for a guy who never study english and learn alone ( I believe... )

Great guys, great opnions, REALY TNX for all of you guys

I will come back here and talk with every time

Tnx!
Rolanda Clodfelder
25.09.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
If you're from Canada then It's all forgiven

-At this weekend
-On that weekend
-Over the weekend
Kellie Myrum
24.09.2012
Originally Posted by AllDay
In Canada its most definitely ON the weekend. I live In BC not Quebec bro, barely know any french.

The most correct term would be THIS weekend tho.
If you're from Canada then It's all forgiven

-At this weekend
-On that weekend
Tera Baragan
24.09.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
At my native we say for this weekend but properly on english it would be AT, for sure
In Canada its most definitely ON the weekend. I live In BC not Quebec bro, barely know any french.

http://community .wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=200842

3rd post pretty much sums up where we are at.

U.S. English - on the weekend
British English - at the weekend

Saludos
Kellie Myrum
24.09.2012
Originally Posted by JSM
Actually, I am British and I am a fully qualified English grammar lecturer at Barcelona University, sorry it is NOT on the weekend, the correct preposition is AT. I also teach Advanced English in my own school in my home town.

However I forgive you seeing as you are French ...
http://www.englishclub.com/grammar/p...in-on-time.htm
At my native we say for this weekend but properly on english it would be AT, for sure
Tera Baragan
24.09.2012
Originally Posted by JSM
and the preposition you are looking for is "AT" Christmas, the same for "AT" the weekend, or "AT" the end of the month. we use "at" to define a point of time, but we can't be specific, unless we include the time.

The rule

IN summer / winter / June / a weeks time
AT the weekend / Christmas / 7 O'Clock
On Friday

(I have an English Grammar school now that I've retired).
Unfortunately you are incorrect. But seeing as english isn't your first language. U did well.

It would be ON the weekend. Not AT the weekend.

AT is used for time, ON the specific day and IN for seasons, months and such.
Faustino Stringfellow
24.09.2012
Originally Posted by Otacon
I have an S4 and love it, I say if you wanna use Traktor then save alittle more and go this route. Or just save and go CDJ
I must say I believe I'm a little spoilt too (but i spoiled myself), I have 2 x NI KS4 and 1 x Denon MC6000 and 2 x SC2000's.

The Denons are built brilliantly, solid and they feel it. The S4 is much lighter, plastic but if you want control over Traktor Pro, it's the only way to go.

But if you put the S4 into a road ready flightcase, you don't notice the plastic.

You should try them out for yourself, don't believe us, 'cos you may not have the same opinion.
Kellie Myrum
24.09.2012
Originally Posted by foxdanger
please let me know why you believe 4A is best then the other options...
Hey, I didn't said it's better in build quality because it's not out jet, and on other hand it probably isn't with lower price. Point was on big mapping that I will support for this unit when I get one.

From all listed I'll go for denon if I were you.
Roxy Susano
24.09.2012
Originally Posted by JSM
If these guys ever get this to market, I guess (by previous pricing) it will be in your ballpark.

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/CMD-STUDIO-4A.aspx - but it was announced at the start of the year, I've mailed them repeatedly for info .....all i ever seem to get is "coming soon"


I can't see where this one is best then a MC3000, VCI or S4... ???

It have something new that the other ones don't have?





Originally Posted by JSM
This is going in a different direction, I have myself and I LOVE it, I have two trurntables and DVS set up at the same time due it's clever routing. You will need at least an Audio 4DJ (two channel scratch), but best with an Audio8DJ, then you can get all 4 channels running independently.

http://www.behringer.com/news/behrin...12-tech-award/

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/DDM4000.aspx

loading tracks is done with DVS, I use the mixers effects (not traktor), and the best bit if the computer crashes, it's a real mixer ...just put on some real vinyl.


I believe this is not a option for me... But the crash problem is not problem for the MC3000, the controller have two line in for external decks.




Originally Posted by Jester.NZ
from your list my 3 choices would be ..

Denon MC3000
Traktor Kontrol S2
VCI-300 MK2


Yup, I'm EXACTLY there

I believe it will be this

And i will go to Canada on Christmas, so i believe i will get some promotion after that right? You guys have this on cristmas (best prices)?


PS: Litle help with my poor english here: Is "IN cristmas" or "ON Cristmas" or "AT cristmas? ( ty a lot! )





Originally Posted by Stewe
All god choices... I'm going with 4A because of amount of controls end cos the fect that how blanket is long you can reach your legs till there

Same point, please let me know why you believe 4A is best then the other options...
Roxy Susano
25.09.2012
Originally Posted by JSM
I must say I believe I'm a little spoilt too (but i spoiled myself), I have 2 x NI KS4 and 1 x Denon MC6000 and 2 x SC2000's.

The Denons are built brilliantly, solid and they feel it. The S4 is much lighter, plastic but if you want control over Traktor Pro, it's the only way to go.

But if you put the S4 into a road ready flightcase, you don't notice the plastic.

You should try them out for yourself, don't believe us, 'cos you may not have the same opinion.


Yeah, I take my decision for Denon. I don't use Traktor, so i believe this is the best option for me



About the english course, TnX guys

So now i know i have two ways to say the same thing, depends that where I am

But I believe I'm fine with my english no?! You can understand me, that's great for a guy who never study english and learn alone ( I believe... )

Great guys, great opnions, REALY TNX for all of you guys

I will come back here and talk with every time

Tnx!
Rolanda Clodfelder
25.09.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
If you're from Canada then It's all forgiven

-At this weekend
-On that weekend
-Over the weekend
Kellie Myrum
24.09.2012
Originally Posted by AllDay
In Canada its most definitely ON the weekend. I live In BC not Quebec bro, barely know any french.

The most correct term would be THIS weekend tho.
If you're from Canada then It's all forgiven

-At this weekend
-On that weekend
Tera Baragan
24.09.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
At my native we say for this weekend but properly on english it would be AT, for sure
In Canada its most definitely ON the weekend. I live In BC not Quebec bro, barely know any french.

http://community .wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=200842

3rd post pretty much sums up where we are at.

U.S. English - on the weekend
British English - at the weekend

Saludos
Kellie Myrum
24.09.2012
Originally Posted by JSM
Actually, I am British and I am a fully qualified English grammar lecturer at Barcelona University, sorry it is NOT on the weekend, the correct preposition is AT. I also teach Advanced English in my own school in my home town.

However I forgive you seeing as you are French ...
http://www.englishclub.com/grammar/p...in-on-time.htm
At my native we say for this weekend but properly on english it would be AT, for sure
Faustino Stringfellow
24.09.2012
Actually, I am British and I am a fully qualified English grammar lecturer at Barcelona University, sorry it is NOT on the weekend, the correct preposition is AT. I also teach Advanced English in my own school in my home town.

However I forgive you seeing as you are French ...
http://www.englishclub.com/grammar/p...in-on-time.htm
Tera Baragan
24.09.2012
Originally Posted by JSM
and the preposition you are looking for is "AT" Christmas, the same for "AT" the weekend, or "AT" the end of the month. we use "at" to define a point of time, but we can't be specific, unless we include the time.

The rule

IN summer / winter / June / a weeks time
AT the weekend / Christmas / 7 O'Clock
On Friday

(I have an English Grammar school now that I've retired).
Unfortunately you are incorrect. But seeing as english isn't your first language. U did well.

It would be ON the weekend. Not AT the weekend.

AT is used for time, ON the specific day and IN for seasons, months and such.
Faustino Stringfellow
24.09.2012
Originally Posted by Otacon
I have an S4 and love it, I say if you wanna use Traktor then save alittle more and go this route. Or just save and go CDJ
I must say I believe I'm a little spoilt too (but i spoiled myself), I have 2 x NI KS4 and 1 x Denon MC6000 and 2 x SC2000's.

The Denons are built brilliantly, solid and they feel it. The S4 is much lighter, plastic but if you want control over Traktor Pro, it's the only way to go.

But if you put the S4 into a road ready flightcase, you don't notice the plastic.

You should try them out for yourself, don't believe us, 'cos you may not have the same opinion.
Erich Vallabhaneni
24.09.2012
I have an S4 and love it, I say if you wanna use Traktor then save alittle more and go this route. Or just save and go CDJ
Kellie Myrum
24.09.2012
Originally Posted by foxdanger
please let me know why you believe 4A is best then the other options...
Hey, I didn't said it's better in build quality because it's not out jet, and on other hand it probably isn't with lower price. Point was on big mapping that I will support for this unit when I get one.

From all listed I'll go for denon if I were you.
Faustino Stringfellow
24.09.2012
The Denon is better built than the S4, but the S4 has better control over traktor.

The CMD Studio 4A, is supposed to be brilliant, but as no-one has one yet, we can only speculate.

and the preposition you are looking for is "AT" Christmas, the same for "AT" the weekend, or "AT" the end of the month. we use "at" to define a point of time, but we can't be specific, unless we include the time.

The rule

IN summer / winter / June / a weeks time
AT the weekend / Christmas / 7 O'Clock
On Friday

(I have an English Grammar school now that I've retired).
Roxy Susano
24.09.2012
Originally Posted by JSM
If these guys ever get this to market, I guess (by previous pricing) it will be in your ballpark.

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/CMD-STUDIO-4A.aspx - but it was announced at the start of the year, I've mailed them repeatedly for info .....all i ever seem to get is "coming soon"


I can't see where this one is best then a MC3000, VCI or S4... ???

It have something new that the other ones don't have?





Originally Posted by JSM
This is going in a different direction, I have myself and I LOVE it, I have two trurntables and DVS set up at the same time due it's clever routing. You will need at least an Audio 4DJ (two channel scratch), but best with an Audio8DJ, then you can get all 4 channels running independently.

http://www.behringer.com/news/behrin...12-tech-award/

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/DDM4000.aspx

loading tracks is done with DVS, I use the mixers effects (not traktor), and the best bit if the computer crashes, it's a real mixer ...just put on some real vinyl.


I believe this is not a option for me... But the crash problem is not problem for the MC3000, the controller have two line in for external decks.




Originally Posted by Jester.NZ
from your list my 3 choices would be ..

Denon MC3000
Traktor Kontrol S2
VCI-300 MK2


Yup, I'm EXACTLY there

I believe it will be this

And i will go to Canada on Christmas, so i believe i will get some promotion after that right? You guys have this on cristmas (best prices)?


PS: Litle help with my poor english here: Is "IN cristmas" or "ON Cristmas" or "AT cristmas? ( ty a lot! )





Originally Posted by Stewe
All god choices... I'm going with 4A because of amount of controls end cos the fect that how blanket is long you can reach your legs till there

Same point, please let me know why you believe 4A is best then the other options...
Kellie Myrum
24.09.2012
Originally Posted by Jester.NZ
from your list my 3 choices would be ..

Denon MC3000
Traktor Kontrol S2
VCI-300 MK2
All god choices... I'm going with 4A because of amount of controls end cos the fect that how blanket is long you can reach your legs till there
Latoria Kavulich
24.09.2012
from your list my 3 choices would be ..

Denon MC3000
Traktor Kontrol S2
VCI-300 MK2
Kellie Myrum
24.09.2012
Originally Posted by JSM
If these guys ever get this to market, I guess (by previous pricing) it will be in your ballpark.

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/CMD-STUDIO-4A.aspx - but it was announced at the start of the year, I've mailed them repeatedly for info .....all i ever seem to get is "coming soon"
+1

I'm cooking 16 mod jogFX + Gratification (independent 4 deck) traktor mapping for this controller. Love the 8 hotcues part
Faustino Stringfellow
24.09.2012
This is going in a different direction, I have myself and I LOVE it, I have two trurntables and DVS set up at the same time due it's clever routing. You will need at least an Audio 4DJ (two channel scratch), but best with an Audio8DJ, then you can get all 4 channels running independently.

http://www.behringer.com/news/behrin...12-tech-award/

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/DDM4000.aspx

loading tracks is done with DVS, I use the mixers effects (not traktor), and the best bit if the computer crashes, it's a real mixer ...just put on some real vinyl.
Faustino Stringfellow
24.09.2012
If these guys ever get this to market, I guess (by previous pricing) it will be in your ballpark.

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/CMD-STUDIO-4A.aspx - but it was announced at the start of the year, I've mailed them repeatedly for info .....all i ever seem to get is "coming soon"
Glynda Scerra
23.09.2012
I personally would go for the s2 since that's what you have to spend. Although I bought my s2 at the beginning of the summer and now I am wishing I had the s4. The s4 would definitely by the better buy. The s4 has all those other buttons and channels you need to operate traktor to its fullest.
Roxy Susano
23.09.2012
I see some reviews and... I believe it will be MC3000

This one have another good point, the price is inside my MAX limit price for something bought in other country. In Brazil, when you go to USA or CANADA, the limit WITHOUT pay ANY TAX is $500, so any controller under $500 have some advantage in this case
Roxy Susano
23.09.2012
Originally Posted by squidot
i'm not sure where you live, but sites like musicians friend and guitar center pretty regularly have %15 off sales so consider that when buying any gear. there are other sites that will price match and barter like proaudiostar so if you show them a competitors sale they will usually beat it by a little bit.

edit: oh i see that you are brazilian, so i'm not sure if you have equivalent music gear sites, but maybe some of your local shops will price match or give you the standard 15% off if you try to barter. there's some wiggle room in this type of stuff, so give it a shot.
=D

I`m brazilian but i will buy the controller in Canada (or maybe USA). I will travel to Toronto in December, so I can buy in Canada or USA, they have almost the same price (I`m looking the prices in some sites like Planet DJ and ProAudioStar).

I believe you`re right about the bargain, I can talk with some stores and get some discount, I do this a lot in Brazil too
Cole Maroto
23.09.2012
Originally Posted by foxdanger
For m VDJ i perfect. I use it for a long time and love it. It`s not a problem.





That`s GREAT!

DDJ T1 fo $550 it`s a very good price



So guys, i have a new and GREAT option (i believe). In the past I had some Denon CDJ and i LOVE it. But there CDJ are TOO expensive... So when i start seek for a controller, i just put the Denon aside because i believe ''They are too expensive, so, for me is not possible''

BUT, for my surprise, one friend tell me about Denon MC3000 and MC6000, and i just LOVE! These two controllers are FANTASTIC!

What you guys have to talk abou it? MC3000 is perfect because have 4 decks AND the price is GREAT (new one for $499) and MC6000 is most powerfull (but i compare these two, and they have almost same buttons and features right?) but the price is too expensive ($799). Maybe used one?

Waiting for more options guys, and TNX A LOT for ALL help

PS: Sory my bad english, I`m brazilian and I never study english in my life, I learn it alone :/
i'm not sure where you live, but sites like musicians friend and guitar center pretty regularly have %15 off sales so consider that when buying any gear. there are other sites that will price match and barter like proaudiostar so if you show them a competitors sale they will usually beat it by a little bit.

edit: oh i see that you are brazilian, so i'm not sure if you have equivalent music gear sites, but maybe some of your local shops will price match or give you the standard 15% off if you try to barter. there's some wiggle room in this type of stuff, so give it a shot.
Roxy Susano
23.09.2012
Originally Posted by Zer0beet
Virtual DJ 8 is coming out soon, and its supposed to be a hell of a lot better than VDJ7. The N4 has 4 channels but those 4 channels are only really usable in virtual DJ, because serato decided that the N4 was going to only support DJ intro. SO if you want to use serato then don't get the N4. If you don't mind using VDJ then I'd get the N4 and use VDJ7 until VDJ 8 comes out.
For m VDJ i perfect. I use it for a long time and love it. It`s not a problem.



Originally Posted by JSM
and there's always the Pioneer offering ....now they've dropped the prices on the new ones, the 2nd hand market has also dropped. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-DDJ-...item1e72962fa1
That`s GREAT!

DDJ T1 fo $550 it`s a very good price



So guys, i have a new and GREAT option (i believe). In the past I had some Denon CDJ and i LOVE it. But there CDJ are TOO expensive... So when i start seek for a controller, i just put the Denon aside because i believe ''They are too expensive, so, for me is not possible''

BUT, for my surprise, one friend tell me about Denon MC3000 and MC6000, and i just LOVE! These two controllers are FANTASTIC!

What you guys have to talk abou it? MC3000 is perfect because have 4 decks AND the price is GREAT (new one for $499) and MC6000 is most powerfull (but i compare these two, and they have almost same buttons and features right?) but the price is too expensive ($799). Maybe used one?

Waiting for more options guys, and TNX A LOT for ALL help

PS: Sory my bad english, I`m brazilian and I never study english in my life, I learn it alone :/
Benjamin Sieh
23.09.2012
Virtual DJ 8 is coming out soon, and its supposed to be a hell of a lot better than VDJ7. The N4 has 4 channels but those 4 channels are only really usable in virtual DJ, because serato decided that the N4 was going to only support DJ intro. SO if you want to use serato then don't get the N4. If you don't mind using VDJ then I'd get the N4 and use VDJ7 until VDJ 8 comes out.
Faustino Stringfellow
23.09.2012
and there's always the Pioneer offering ....now they've dropped the prices on the new ones, the 2nd hand market has also dropped. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pioneer-DDJ-...item1e72962fa1
Faustino Stringfellow
23.09.2012
***just for kicks***

make your own for far less, use a teensy brain for $16, learn to program it (most of the sketches are done anyway), and you'll be away.

Of course I was joking, but it's the way many of the users in the community got into digital in the first place.

but to answer your question on the S4 .....YES
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NI-Traktor-S...item3ccaeb1744
Celine Surico
23.09.2012
Maybe start by planning our ideal controller SW environment and we would go for there. In case Traktor, there are many options besides S4 (which I do own one), for example two NI F1s and an iPad running Oscullator as the controller mixer *). And many other options.

Do you want lots of knobs, jog wheels absolute must or not, separate audio interface OK, interested in a more modular approach for mix-and-match various configs, one turn-key solution?

*) http://traktortips.com/2011/08/10/ip...traktor-pro-2/
Roxy Susano
23.09.2012
Originally Posted by Zer0beet
Why not the Novation Twitch?
Buy if i had to choose from those I'd go with th N4 and be prepared for VDJ 8

What N4 have to "be prepard for vdj8"?

I dont see Twitch one, i will find informations about it... Tnx




Originally Posted by AllDay
The ergo, the vestax or the s2 would be my choices.
I like these too, the ergo is perfect... Sooo doubts :/ i need to take a decision






Originally Posted by JSM
VCI300, but run as fast as you can away from the VMS, unless you want to be troubleshooting and complaining for the rest of your life. I had two before buying the S4.

To get a good source of info about all the above, go to see their company community s . You'll see first hand what's good and bad.

Why not buy a second hand S4?

S4 used will be under $600? its a good choice too...





Tnx for all rsponses, waiting for more opnions
Hipolito Scionti
23.09.2012
S2 really is decent for its price
Faustino Stringfellow
23.09.2012
VCI300, but run as fast as you can away from the VMS, unless you want to be troubleshooting and complaining for the rest of your life. I had two before buying the S4.

To get a good source of info about all the above, go to see their company community s . You'll see first hand what's good and bad.

Why not buy a second hand S4?
Benjamin Sieh
23.09.2012
Why not the Novation Twitch?
Buy if i had to choose from those I'd go with th N4 and be prepared for VDJ 8
Tera Baragan
23.09.2012
The ergo, the vestax or the s2 would be my choices.

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