deep tech house

deep tech house
Posted on: 20.08.2011 by Rheba Sheftel
hey,

Just got some new songs and finally fixed a way to hook up my bcd2000 next to RDJ to have full 4 deck control. This all results in this new set:

Click here to see it on Mixcloud



tracklist:
Who Cares! (Original Mix) - Agnes
Get behind me (vladimir corbin remix) - Carsten Rausch & Ferdinand Laurin
Discard - Dapayk Solo
Swivel Flick (Original Mix) - Nick Hoppner
4 My Peepz (Dubfire Rework) - Paperclip People
Drive Thru (Original Mix) - Simon Garcia
Mango (Tobias Thomas & Superpitcher's Como Mango Version) - Sascha Funke
Fils Du 9 (Original Mix) - Paul Ritch and Handycraft and Okain
Flash (Channel X Remix) - Green Velvet
Work The Week (Original Mix) - Nic Fanciulli
Sandy Roche (Acid Pauli Remix) - Anita Coke & Anette Party
Spirits (Original Mix) - Sebo K
taurine on sunday - roland dill
Confronted (Original Mix) - Pan Pot
Titelheld (Patrick Kunkel Remix) - Extrawelt

please tell me what you believe, thanks and peace out!
Neil Malia
23.08.2011
Originally Posted by Nephew
I still don't get why people hate on voicemails
voicemails are amazing! i love em
Margie Pavell
22.08.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
the downfall of mankind.
along with voicemail and 4 dollar coffees...
Leeanna Ayla
22.08.2011
Originally Posted by Nephew
Welcome to the internet
the downfall of mankind.
Breana Singerman
22.08.2011
Originally Posted by abel420
hmm, how the fuck did a simple request for feedback on a set end up on all this negative bitching around
Welcome to the internet
Margie Pavell
22.08.2011
Originally Posted by Nephew

Sorry if I don't participate in all the back slapping and circle jerks that go on around here.
next time don't be a dick...cause that's exactly what you were being...

sorry that you are such a fantastic DJ starting with the first mix you laid down being perfect...but alot of us are still working at it...
Breana Singerman
22.08.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
I personally don't believe that unless you're prepared to spend at least 75% of the mix time just listening to the mix you probably shouldn't offer any feedback on that mix.
And who the fuck are you to assume I didn't even listen to the whole mix start to finish? And even if you listen to only 75% of a mix, you still shouldn't give any critique on it.

It's kind of like only watching 3/4 of a film and not seeing the ending. How you can give your feelings on the film as whole? Sure you can say the acting was good, the FX where great and the cinematography was outstanding but you can't judge the film as a whole because you have no idea the story resolved and how everything was building up to it.
Neil Malia
23.08.2011
Originally Posted by Nephew
I still don't get why people hate on voicemails
voicemails are amazing! i love em
Breana Singerman
23.08.2011
I still don't get why people hate on voicemails
Margie Pavell
22.08.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
the downfall of mankind.
along with voicemail and 4 dollar coffees...
Breana Singerman
22.08.2011
It has it's pro's and con's much like everything else, but even that seems a bit extreme
Leeanna Ayla
22.08.2011
Originally Posted by Nephew
Welcome to the internet
the downfall of mankind.
Breana Singerman
22.08.2011
Originally Posted by abel420
hmm, how the fuck did a simple request for feedback on a set end up on all this negative bitching around
Welcome to the internet
Rheba Sheftel
22.08.2011
hmm, how the fuck did a simple request for feedback on a set end up on all this negative bitching around

edit:
I do a few mixes a week and also relisten most of them of which I believe are worthy doing this. And the first time I listened to this one I thought it was pretty much okay but I believe I wasn't really paying enough attention, since everytime I listen I notice more things that might need improvement. On the other hand I try to stay as objective as I can but somehow I believe I could never be really positive about something I made because I always see things I know I could/should improve in my projects.
Celine Surico
22.08.2011
I've seen these kinds of postings over and over with usually the same result. Usually the threads start with at title such as 'My first ever mix I've done in this lifetime' or something similar. Just the marketing idea of someone being impressed by a first-ever mix sounding good to astounding is not a guarantee for any decent feedback of any kind.

Secondly, one would neither expect to get much good feedback of many reasons, jealousy, not liking the tracks included and so forth.

The best feedback you ever get is if you have *trusted* DJ friends who actually are brutally honest and constructive and give you the right advice at the right time. Hoping to get any constructive feedback by posting mixes on a community is at best a gamble.

The second best feedback is that you just need to be honest with yourself, do critical listening to your mixes, compare them with mixes of DJ/producers you know are professional and take mental notes about what to improve. I suspect even the professionals do this from time to time to fine-tune their skills.

I would recommend to do 3-7 mixes a week, dump them in an iPod, listen to them later and just listen to issues and take notes how to make them better later. Or get a pool of friends you trust, send mixes back and forth asking for feedback (honest/brutal/constructive of course.)
Margie Pavell
22.08.2011
leave it man...don't let some douche brow beat you into changing it...
Rheba Sheftel
22.08.2011
I know it's no deep house, but in my opinion most of these songs have a way more deep feeling than the funky tech-house I often tend to use. Might've given the wrong impression with the title, i'll change it if anyone feels like i need to do so.
Margie Pavell
22.08.2011
Originally Posted by Nephew

Sorry if I don't participate in all the back slapping and circle jerks that go on around here.
next time don't be a dick...cause that's exactly what you were being...

sorry that you are such a fantastic DJ starting with the first mix you laid down being perfect...but alot of us are still working at it...
Celine Surico
22.08.2011
Actually if the first 10 minutes of a mix sucks, that's good feedback, too. Even if someone didn't listen it all the way to the end of this specific reason.
Breana Singerman
22.08.2011
Originally Posted by photojojo
I personally don't believe that unless you're prepared to spend at least 75% of the mix time just listening to the mix you probably shouldn't offer any feedback on that mix.
And who the fuck are you to assume I didn't even listen to the whole mix start to finish? And even if you listen to only 75% of a mix, you still shouldn't give any critique on it.

It's kind of like only watching 3/4 of a film and not seeing the ending. How you can give your feelings on the film as whole? Sure you can say the acting was good, the FX where great and the cinematography was outstanding but you can't judge the film as a whole because you have no idea the story resolved and how everything was building up to it.
Breana Singerman
22.08.2011
I did listen to the mix start to finish, I was just saying that if I were to click anywhere in that mix I wouldn't have been able to tell if it was the start, middle or end. By that I mean it's a very monolithic mix with no direction.

As for the mixing, it's adequate. I really don't see a need to criticize a set mix by mix as there's no reason for it not to be good now a days. Obviously if something jumped out like a galloping mix or something not making sense phasing wise then I would mention it obviously.

When I listen to sets, I'm looking more for how it feels, where it starts, how it ends and how we ended up there. If you can keep the listener enthralled start to finish and leave them wanting more you did a good job. But if your mix is very monotonous and lacks any character or dynamic capabilities, the listener is usually just patiently waiting for the mix to end or will more often just turn it off.
Leeanna Ayla
22.08.2011
I personally don't believe that unless you're prepared to spend at least 75% of the mix time just listening to the mix you probably shouldn't offer any feedback on that mix. How can you possibly offer any constructive criticism on a mix by just clicking through it? So any criticism Nephew gave should only be considered for the track listing not on the actual mixing skills. Now with that out of the way track selection is hugely a personal thing so you have to decide if you want to take the criticism to heart or not.
Breana Singerman
22.08.2011
Originally Posted by Mr G
Though I find Nephew to be an arrogant and unsympathetic bastard
Arrogant? Maybe. Unsympathetic, possibly. He was asking for what people thought about his mix and I answered.

Sorry if I don't participate in all the back slapping and circle jerks that go on around here.
Dani Gutsche
22.08.2011
Oh yeah right, sorry 'bout that.
Leeanna Ayla
22.08.2011
Originally Posted by Mr G
I did however enjoy the songs seperately. Trying to find them on the internet, but most of them are hard to find (which I find suprising). Would you mind sending me the songs you used through Zippyshare or something?
No illegal file sharing talk on here.
Dani Gutsche
22.08.2011
Though I find Nephew to be an arrogant and unsympathetic bastard (seriously dude, did your mother teach you to give feedback this way?), I do agree with some of his points;

- This is not exactly what deep house is like. Stroll around the internet a bit more (check out my channel or fb-page for example), deep house is much more calm, more downtempo and less repetitive. This is 100% pure tech-house.

- I kinda agree with the fact that the mix doesn't really have any variation. Try and use the bridges of songs (which they always have) a bit more, you'll be amazed with what that can already do to a dancefloor.

I did however enjoy the songs seperately. Trying to find them on the internet, but most of them are hard to find (which I find suprising). Would you mind sending me the songs you used through Zippyshare or something? Would love to check out the full versions and would also give a better perspective to how you've used them. In all; good track selection, but you could work on creating a story through your set.
Breana Singerman
21.08.2011
Originally Posted by abel420
it did get interesting?
No


Originally Posted by abel420
Although I kinda got annoyed by the first few posts of you
Bite me

= p
Rheba Sheftel
21.08.2011
hmm it did get interesting? Although I kinda got annoyed by the first few posts of you, I do am gratefull you took the time to listen and give me some advice. About the timestamp, I didn't believe it would be necessary since there's a tracklisting included and at the time I was kinda hung over so didn't feel like doing that shit. However I know it's no excuse, but these songs were kinda new for me so I didn't know that well what I was building to during the set and after relistening the set I noticed you're right and I'll try and work on that. Thanks anyway.

Peace
Breana Singerman
21.08.2011
All kidding aside, the mix is lacking any sort of character, it's not dynamic in the least bit. How it starts is pretty much how it finishes. I would have liked to have seen more time spent on developing a groove and building up to something that you would remember.

I could blindly click to anywhere in the mix and not really be able to tell if it was the beginning, middle or end of the mix.

As for the title, "Deep Tech House"? Tech House yes, but far from Deep, not even close.

And why didn't you timestamp this mix? Mixcloud make it very easy to do it so there's no excuse not to.
Rheba Sheftel
21.08.2011
hehe someone who gets me. i'll be glad to hear your opinion man thanks for taking the time
Kenton Almeyda
20.08.2011
The OP refers to "this new set".

He does not say "this set of new recordings".

He does say "some new songs" but as the above poster says, they are clearly "new to him."

The nitpicking above is therefore completely non responsive.

http://images.t-nation.com/community _ima...ious_troll.jpg

abel420 : the track listing looks interesting to me, a bit more on the techy side, will try to listen soon.
Rheba Sheftel
20.08.2011
If it doesn't look interesting to you, why even post? Sorry dude but your posts don't add anything but hate to this fucking topic so please if you don't have anything usefull to say, better don't say anything at all.
The tracklisting might not seem interesting to you, although i doubt you know all of the tracks, but they might to others.. And even if the tracklisting is interesting even the most fucked up tracks could be mixed creatively to create a nice mix even tho you might not like the tracks/genre at all.
Breana Singerman
20.08.2011
Tracklisting doesn't look that interesting, so why even listen?
Rheba Sheftel
20.08.2011
okay but lets forget all this, anyone who cares to take a listen and has any comments?
Celine Surico
20.08.2011
...semantics...
Rheba Sheftel
20.08.2011
but that's not what this topic is about, is it
Rheba Sheftel
20.08.2011
yeah that's what i meant...i meant newly purchased not recently released
Neil Malia
20.08.2011
Originally Posted by Nephew
Most these aren't really new,

Work The Week (Original Mix) - Nic Fanciulli is from 2009 me believes

Mango (Tobias Thomas & Superpitcher's Como Mango Version) - Sascha Funke is from 2008

Confronted (Original Mix) - Pan Pot is from 2009

Spirits (Original Mix) - Sebo K is from 2010

Flash (Channel X Remix) - Green Velvet is from 2010

Who Cares! (Original Mix) - Agnes is from 2009

Get behind me (vladimir corbin remix) - Carsten Rausch & Ferdinand Laurin is from 2010

taurine on sunday - roland dill is from 2009

Over half your tracklisting is year older or more, not really what I would call "new"
maybe they are new to him dude...you never know
Breana Singerman
20.08.2011
Most these aren't really new,

Work The Week (Original Mix) - Nic Fanciulli is from 2009 me believes

Mango (Tobias Thomas & Superpitcher's Como Mango Version) - Sascha Funke is from 2008

Confronted (Original Mix) - Pan Pot is from 2009

Spirits (Original Mix) - Sebo K is from 2010

Flash (Channel X Remix) - Green Velvet is from 2010

Who Cares! (Original Mix) - Agnes is from 2009

Get behind me (vladimir corbin remix) - Carsten Rausch & Ferdinand Laurin is from 2010

taurine on sunday - roland dill is from 2009

Over half your tracklisting is year older or more, not really what I would call "new"

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