my first 10 min dubstep (ish) mix
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my first 10 min dubstep (ish) mix Posted on: 27.08.2011 by Beth Hams what you believe???????http://soundcloud.com/morg-4/10-min-dubstep-ish-mix rizzle kicks - down with the trumpets diplo - pick your poison wanted - glad you came nero - promises | |
| Breana Singerman 28.08.2011 |
Originally Posted by keithace
How do you expect to get comfortable playing that way if you can't even do it at home just playing off the cuff and feeling the groove and letting it take you away and running with it |
| Margie Pavell 28.08.2011 |
Originally Posted by Max Jones
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| Kenton Almeyda 28.08.2011 |
Originally Posted by kermit
- I am not especially into the style of tracks that you picked, but I believe they fit together well and are appropriately selected in that sense. - I believe at least 3 of the 4 tracks had vocals. If you play too many tracks with full vocals one after the other, it can be reminiscent of the mixing on hip hop radio or on a mix tape for a girl, with one *song* coming right after another *song* instead of tracks being mixed into each other. - 2 of the 3 transitions were of the format "let the end of the previous track play out and then mix into the very start of the intro of the next track." this adds to the sensation that you are "just playing songs" instead of "dj mixing." If you're going to mix an outro into an intro, focus on the phrasing so that the outro ends right when the intro "drops". - My number one advice for you based on this mix is *practice your transitions* and *practice using EQ to allow two tracks to overlap clearly*. The art of DJing is very much about how the elements from the two tracks blend as you transition between them, and while you *can* DJ effectively by slam mixing (or mixing very quickly, or mixing from outro to intro) I feel like investing in that particular area of your mixing will pay significant dividends. Thanks for posting, and keep at it! |
| Breana Singerman 29.08.2011 |
Originally Posted by Max Jones
Oddly enough, it's takes an hour to do an hour long mix. And it's no harder than doing a 10min mix, you just do it 6 times in a row. I don't understand why people are afraid to do longer mixes. |
| Beth Hams 28.08.2011 |
Originally Posted by seitz
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| Beth Hams 28.08.2011 |
Originally Posted by Nephew
from my own prefference i get bored when a mix is an hour long etc unless im doing somthing while its on in the back ground also i didnt have much time last evening and agree next time i will do a longer mix. |
| Kenton Almeyda 27.08.2011 |
Originally Posted by kermit
- I believe you should never post a mix anywhere asking for feedback and call it your "first" mix. Phrasing it this way is practically begging people to assume it is of very low quality and should not be listened to. - I believe you should probably not describe your mix as "ish" ... why be wishy-washy? Own it! - I believe, despite recent trolling to this effect, that most people do actually prefer a mix that is a bit longer than 10 minutes. At least 30 minutes... including myself! - I believe that when people read a tracklist and you embed the soundcloud properly so there is a player in the post, they are more likely to click through, listen and give you feedback. I will try to post some actual thoughts about your MIX later. ;D |
| Beth Hams 27.08.2011 | what you believe??????? http://soundcloud.com/morg-4/10-min-dubstep-ish-mix rizzle kicks - down with the trumpets diplo - pick your poison wanted - glad you came nero - promises |
| Beth Hams 29.08.2011 | @max jones thanks for the advice i have just listened to it again and your right tracks 2/3 clash abit.i will work on this. |
| Beth Hams 29.08.2011 | [QUOTE=Awesomer;341163]As I mentioned I would try to do in my first post full of meta-critique, I got a chance to listen to your mix late last evening
. Here's my feedback on your actual mix. . - 2 of the 3 transitions were of the format "let the end of the previous track play out and then mix into the very start of the intro of the next track." this adds to the sensation that you are "just playing songs" instead of "dj mixing." If you're going to mix an outro into an intro, focus on the phrasing so that the outro ends right when the intro "drops". thank you some great advice to work on.the only thing is none of the 4 songs were mixed into the start of a song they were beat matched.but i can see how it may sound that way. |
| Breana Singerman 28.08.2011 |
Originally Posted by keithace
How do you expect to get comfortable playing that way if you can't even do it at home just playing off the cuff and feeling the groove and letting it take you away and running with it |
| Margie Pavell 28.08.2011 |
Originally Posted by Max Jones
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| Kenton Almeyda 28.08.2011 | I believe there's some confusion here about how hard it is to create a mix to a standard the poster themselves is happy with. Lots of DJs never plan out a mix at all, and they clearly feel comfortable posting mixes which contain "mistakes" which I personally would never post. If they make a "mistake" while recording a mix of any length, they might not even have the DJ ear to *identify* it as a mistake. That's why they're here, asking for our collective advice. I believe what confuses people about all the 10 minute "Fisher Price's My First" mixes is is that if the poster knows it is beginner work, why aren't they comfortable making something longer? 10 minutes of beginner work or 30, it's hard to understand the meaningful difference. I can appreciate that mixing for an hour for a beginner can be hard. But 30 minutes? Beginners play tracks for 4-5 minutes usually.. who can't be arsed to play 5 or 6 tracks? Given that investing *time* in DJing (or anything) is the key element of being able to learn how to do it, I believe 10 minute mixes also send a weird signal about the poster's commitment to his/her craft. Even if this is not a reasonable conclusion, I believe many people do in fact make it. @OP : slightly sorry for this digression occuring in your thread. |
| Aleta Repass 28.08.2011 |
No it doesn't and no it's not.
Oddly enough, it's takes an hour to do an hour long mix. And it's no harder than doing a 10min mix, you just do it 6 times in a row. I don't understand why people are afraid to do longer mixes. |
| Kenton Almeyda 28.08.2011 |
Originally Posted by kermit
- I am not especially into the style of tracks that you picked, but I believe they fit together well and are appropriately selected in that sense. - I believe at least 3 of the 4 tracks had vocals. If you play too many tracks with full vocals one after the other, it can be reminiscent of the mixing on hip hop radio or on a mix tape for a girl, with one *song* coming right after another *song* instead of tracks being mixed into each other. - 2 of the 3 transitions were of the format "let the end of the previous track play out and then mix into the very start of the intro of the next track." this adds to the sensation that you are "just playing songs" instead of "dj mixing." If you're going to mix an outro into an intro, focus on the phrasing so that the outro ends right when the intro "drops". - My number one advice for you based on this mix is *practice your transitions* and *practice using EQ to allow two tracks to overlap clearly*. The art of DJing is very much about how the elements from the two tracks blend as you transition between them, and while you *can* DJ effectively by slam mixing (or mixing very quickly, or mixing from outro to intro) I feel like investing in that particular area of your mixing will pay significant dividends. Thanks for posting, and keep at it! |
| Breana Singerman 29.08.2011 |
Originally Posted by Max Jones
Oddly enough, it's takes an hour to do an hour long mix. And it's no harder than doing a 10min mix, you just do it 6 times in a row. I don't understand why people are afraid to do longer mixes. |
| Aleta Repass 28.08.2011 | Honestly, nobody is going to improve their skill when all anyone has to say about their work is that it's "too short". Believe it or not, an hour long mix is HARD to make - for anyone let alone a beginner. It also takes a fuck of a lot of time. Nobody is going to get better in their bedrooms with no reality checks or constructive feedback, a short mix is a perfect way to get the feedback you need so that you'll improve in a club, you know, the places where most people go to dance and hear new music, remember the places outside the computer screen, the real world. I've been booked for 15 minute slots in between bands at festivals before now, so, again, this kind of succinct mixing is important for that too. Okay your mix. The beatmatching was on point. The phrase matching was inventive, it wasn't always technically correct but you did it wrong in a good way (if you know what I mean). At around 5 mins there was quite a hefty soundclash (i.e. the keys of the two songs didn't sound very good together), if I really wanted to mix those two tunes together I would have taken the bass and a wee bit of the mids out of the outgoing track at that point to take out as many clashing frequencies as possible. The energy of the mix could have been better. In a short mix like this I would have liked to have heard a steady increase in energy, maybe a bpm increase? The final tune was a bit of an anti-climax for me. I really wanted to hear something with a jungle break-beat type feel. Something like Cassius - I love you so (Skream Remix). - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVgGte6vlic - The tune's at 147 but I mixed the intro in to a 140bpm Dubstep tune the other evening and then just increased the tempo in the breakdown and it went off a lot. People dancing, spilling their drinks and shaking your hand. That's what this kind of music is all about, not the length of your set. |
| Beth Hams 28.08.2011 | has anyone got any feedback on the mix itself? |
| Beth Hams 28.08.2011 |
Originally Posted by seitz
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| Beth Hams 28.08.2011 |
Originally Posted by Nephew
from my own prefference i get bored when a mix is an hour long etc unless im doing somthing while its on in the back ground also i didnt have much time last evening and agree next time i will do a longer mix. |
| Breana Singerman 28.08.2011 | Why only 10mins? What's the point? |
| Latoria Kavulich 28.08.2011 | fixed your link kermit. tracklist please. |
| Maricruz Mouw 27.08.2011 | 1 dubstep song is now a dubstep mix...k |
| Kenton Almeyda 27.08.2011 |
Originally Posted by kermit
- I believe you should never post a mix anywhere asking for feedback and call it your "first" mix. Phrasing it this way is practically begging people to assume it is of very low quality and should not be listened to. - I believe you should probably not describe your mix as "ish" ... why be wishy-washy? Own it! - I believe, despite recent trolling to this effect, that most people do actually prefer a mix that is a bit longer than 10 minutes. At least 30 minutes... including myself! - I believe that when people read a tracklist and you embed the soundcloud properly so there is a player in the post, they are more likely to click through, listen and give you feedback. I will try to post some actual thoughts about your MIX later. ;D |
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