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Building PA Question - First Time
Posted on: 24.10.2012 by Nestor Epper
This may come off as a stupid question. And forgive me for my ignorance…

I am beginning the process of planning and building a PA System so I can get out and play at some parties and such. I did not know anything about PA's until about 4 hours ago.

I see the basic system calls for a Mixer, Amp, and speakers. There are powerd speakers, powered mixers and so on. I am trying to do this on the cheap to get it up and going so that I can buy more to add later.

Would I be able to go from my Kontrol S2 with TRS cables straight to an amp (With TRS input) that then goes to the speakers over XLR/Speakon?

Controller > Amp > Speakers

My believeing is since I'm not a band with traditional instruments I don’t need a multichannel mixer with lots of inputs because everything (EQ, Effects, Mic input) is on my controller/software

Will this work just to get me up and going with a PA?
Tera Baragan
24.10.2012
Originally Posted by Janky
tbh, id save a bit more and just rent out a system for the time being. Buying a low budget sound system now will only hurt you later. If you have to sell it, you will have a hard time.
This right here.

You won't be satisfied with the amount of money your wanting to spend on a whole set up!

Just rent some 10 000W and have fun until you have more money!
Addie Engbrecht
24.10.2012
Originally Posted by DJ 2 Cut
So if i were planing to buy a pair of 1000w speakers I should look at a 2000w amp?
Basically. Actually you should techinically oversize it. So like somewhere around the 2500w range would be ideal
Nestor Epper
24.10.2012
Originally Posted by brocklambert
What is your budget to start?
Id like to keep it under or as close to $600 as possible. The speakers i believe I've decided on are Behringer EUROLIVE B215XL

Now I'm trying to decide on an amp. But it looks like i might overshoot my budget if I have to buy a bigger amp. I didn't believe of what manchild said.
Nestor Epper
24.10.2012
Originally Posted by Parameter Y
If you have active speakers you can even plugin the s2 directly to the speakers!
I saw that but I noticed you tend to get less sound for the same price. I could go with lower wattage self powered speaker or for the same price just get a better speaker. Then maybe get a smaller amp and have the headroom to get a better amp later on. I dunno I'm still looking at all the options. I was believeing of heading to my local guitar center to just hear the difference in different configurations for myself.
Nestor Epper
24.10.2012
Originally Posted by manchild
I don't see anything wrong with that
I didn’t either. But I didn’t want to buy something and then break it right away from lack of knowledge or experience
Nestor Epper
24.10.2012
This may come off as a stupid question. And forgive me for my ignorance…

I am beginning the process of planning and building a PA System so I can get out and play at some parties and such. I did not know anything about PA's until about 4 hours ago.

I see the basic system calls for a Mixer, Amp, and speakers. There are powerd speakers, powered mixers and so on. I am trying to do this on the cheap to get it up and going so that I can buy more to add later.

Would I be able to go from my Kontrol S2 with TRS cables straight to an amp (With TRS input) that then goes to the speakers over XLR/Speakon?

Controller > Amp > Speakers

My believeing is since I'm not a band with traditional instruments I don’t need a multichannel mixer with lots of inputs because everything (EQ, Effects, Mic input) is on my controller/software

Will this work just to get me up and going with a PA?
Nestor Epper
25.10.2012
Ok so say I decided to wait until after I get my Tax returns and double my budget. What would you believe of a B-52 Matrix-1000 or 2000?

http://www.b-52pro.com/products/Matrix1000V2.html

http://www.b-52pro.com/products/Matrix2000.html


Again this is just for small parties/venues for about 100-200 people
Nestor Epper
25.10.2012
Never seen a 10000W system at a house party. Maybe I'm going to the prong parties lol
Emanuel Kepics
25.10.2012
Agree .... don't waste money on half assed gear.
Tera Baragan
24.10.2012
Originally Posted by Janky
tbh, id save a bit more and just rent out a system for the time being. Buying a low budget sound system now will only hurt you later. If you have to sell it, you will have a hard time.
This right here.

You won't be satisfied with the amount of money your wanting to spend on a whole set up!

Just rent some 10 000W and have fun until you have more money!
Emerson Crist
24.10.2012
tbh, id save a bit more and just rent out a system for the time being. Buying a low budget sound system now will only hurt you later. If you have to sell it, you will have a hard time.
Addie Engbrecht
24.10.2012
Originally Posted by DJ 2 Cut
So if i were planing to buy a pair of 1000w speakers I should look at a 2000w amp?
Basically. Actually you should techinically oversize it. So like somewhere around the 2500w range would be ideal
Harley Zitka
24.10.2012
I'd get a pair of Mackie SRM-450 or JBL EON 15G2 active speakers... you should be able to find a great used pair for under your budget, and they will last for years.

Just my 2 cents.
Alla Bluemke
24.10.2012
have you tried looking for some used thumps? Or maybe onsale thumps?
Nestor Epper
24.10.2012
Originally Posted by brocklambert
What is your budget to start?
Id like to keep it under or as close to $600 as possible. The speakers i believe I've decided on are Behringer EUROLIVE B215XL

Now I'm trying to decide on an amp. But it looks like i might overshoot my budget if I have to buy a bigger amp. I didn't believe of what manchild said.
Nestor Epper
24.10.2012
So if i were planing to buy a pair of 1000w speakers I should look at a 2000w amp?
Harley Zitka
24.10.2012
What is your budget to start?
Addie Engbrecht
24.10.2012
just a tip. Underpowered amps are a recipe for disaster. Not to also mention that a 200w amp powering speakers that are rated for 200w will be a lot louder than a 200w amp powering speakers that are rated for 1000w.
Nestor Epper
24.10.2012
Originally Posted by Parameter Y
If you have active speakers you can even plugin the s2 directly to the speakers!
I saw that but I noticed you tend to get less sound for the same price. I could go with lower wattage self powered speaker or for the same price just get a better speaker. Then maybe get a smaller amp and have the headroom to get a better amp later on. I dunno I'm still looking at all the options. I was believeing of heading to my local guitar center to just hear the difference in different configurations for myself.
Lessie Becoats
24.10.2012
Definitely get active speakers. So worth it
Christiane Hannay
24.10.2012
If you have active speakers you can even plugin the s2 directly to the speakers!
Nestor Epper
24.10.2012
Originally Posted by manchild
I don't see anything wrong with that
I didn’t either. But I didn’t want to buy something and then break it right away from lack of knowledge or experience
Addie Engbrecht
24.10.2012
I don't see anything wrong with that

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