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Multicore cables - diy-ers, how do they work ?
Posted on: 19.03.2010 by Doug Bieling
Anyone out there looked into or already know how the multicore cables work?

Surely its just about how they are connected ? Is this something the diy-ers out there could build themselves? They just seem a bit over priced for what they are.
Ciara Cuttill
31.10.2012
Originally Posted by NoizeuNit
sounds like you guys are saying that the multicore cables are required for scratch functionality, do they have a secret chip in the sound cards that can tell what cables you use, i was under the impression that the multicore cables were just regular old RCA snakes and that you can use any old RCA interconnects.
mostly used for people who like to switch the the scratch feature of their gear . From utilizing control cd's/vinyl to playing out just regular cd/vinyl it makes the transition easier without hassle of rewiring ... they are RCA cables on steroids ... plus it minimizes the clutter of having 4 sets of rca cables.
Kasandra Kreindler
31.10.2012
Originally Posted by MisterMoleyMole
Definitely are nothing special with a chip in ..... I made my own with RCA cables and splitters.... worked fine.
yea im just messin around i know they arent anything special, im deffinitly ditching mine for something better quality and looks better want everything to be uniform cant stand different colors and all. gotta keep up the Steez
Doug Bieling
31.10.2012
Originally Posted by NoizeuNit
sounds like you guys are saying that the multicore cables are required for scratch functionality, do they have a secret chip in the sound cards that can tell what cables you use, i was under the impression that the multicore cables were just regular old RCA snakes and that you can use any old RCA interconnects.
Definitely are nothing special with a chip in ..... I made my own with RCA cables and splitters.... worked fine.
Sharleen Binckley
01.04.2010
Originally Posted by earl panda
haha dumb panda! never recognized that...tstststs...thank u for lighting me up
I doubt it would work (I personally don't know) but you might be able to find a 7 pin to 3 pin adaptor!? Just a thought you might want to look into.

Thing is though, if you're going straight into your mixer, do you require time code or real vinyl? Cos if you don't you might as well just use standard RCA's and sack off the multicores
Matt Kane
01.04.2010
Originally Posted by dodge
Won't work mate, the multicore aren't standard XLR cables. XLR are 3 pin, multicore are 7 pin
haha dumb panda! never recognized that...tstststs...thank u for lighting me up
Sharleen Binckley
01.04.2010
Originally Posted by earl panda
i just want to know if i can plug it straight into the mixer if the mixer has xlr inputs

just for example

Won't work mate, the multicore aren't standard XLR cables. XLR are 3 pin, multicore are 7 pin
Matt Kane
01.04.2010
Originally Posted by MisterMoleyMole
Not sure i get you panda.
i just want to know if i can plug it straight into the mixer if the mixer has xlr inputs

if this would be the xlr out from the multicore cable -> -> into xlr ins

just for example
Doug Bieling
01.04.2010
Originally Posted by earl panda
does it work when i just plug in the first half of my multicore comming out of my A8 straight into a mixer? (i know no timecode control)
Not sure i get you panda.

@Remote - hahah after function not pretty shinyness. Its for a home setup and to have 4 decks setup with the option of using timecode or standard cds and vinyl without the need to rewire or boot laptop this suits me down to the ground And i still have an extra
Ciara Cuttill
31.10.2012
Originally Posted by NoizeuNit
sounds like you guys are saying that the multicore cables are required for scratch functionality, do they have a secret chip in the sound cards that can tell what cables you use, i was under the impression that the multicore cables were just regular old RCA snakes and that you can use any old RCA interconnects.
mostly used for people who like to switch the the scratch feature of their gear . From utilizing control cd's/vinyl to playing out just regular cd/vinyl it makes the transition easier without hassle of rewiring ... they are RCA cables on steroids ... plus it minimizes the clutter of having 4 sets of rca cables.
Kasandra Kreindler
31.10.2012
Originally Posted by MisterMoleyMole
Definitely are nothing special with a chip in ..... I made my own with RCA cables and splitters.... worked fine.
yea im just messin around i know they arent anything special, im deffinitly ditching mine for something better quality and looks better want everything to be uniform cant stand different colors and all. gotta keep up the Steez
Doug Bieling
31.10.2012
Originally Posted by NoizeuNit
sounds like you guys are saying that the multicore cables are required for scratch functionality, do they have a secret chip in the sound cards that can tell what cables you use, i was under the impression that the multicore cables were just regular old RCA snakes and that you can use any old RCA interconnects.
Definitely are nothing special with a chip in ..... I made my own with RCA cables and splitters.... worked fine.
Kasandra Kreindler
31.10.2012
sounds like you guys are saying that the multicore cables are required for scratch functionality, do they have a secret chip in the sound cards that can tell what cables you use, i was under the impression that the multicore cables were just regular old RCA snakes and that you can use any old RCA interconnects.
Ciara Cuttill
30.10.2012
im about to ditch my two sets of multicores since i just picked up this ...


i dont use the scratch feature, so if you are interested i can sell them to anyone.
Treasa Maffucci
30.10.2012
first you need a standard rca cable running from your audio8 out to your mixers line input. This will be your traktor output going into the mixer. One for each channel.

Next you need to take your cable coming from your turntables/cdjs, and you need to split this signal, using rca splitters. Once you have split this signal, you will then insert one end of your split cable into your audio 8 input. this will be for controlling traktor timecode. Then you take your other half of the split cable, and run that into your phono/line in on your mixer. this will allow you to bypass your audio8, and run your audio straight from your turntable/cdj into the mixer.

Basically the mulitcores bundle these 2 rca's, the standard one and the one that has a split signal on one end.

This is a great alternative to the multicore, just make sure to get yourself some quality rcas and splitters.
Edwina Fagel
30.10.2012
Still not getting the diy part.
Could anyone help me out with whats needed?
Xavier Emanuels
02.04.2010
btw here is a good vid to learn how multicore cables work - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZXrO_kEy6A
Xavier Emanuels
01.04.2010
I did some research and it wouldnt be possible to easily compete with NI multicore cables in terms of price, but it would be easy to compete with them in terms of quality.

The expensive part is that decent RCA jacks are expensive, decent metal ones are like $3 a pop - you x that by how many rca jacks you need and your already comming very close to what NI are selling their multicore cables for.
Sharleen Binckley
01.04.2010
Originally Posted by earl panda
haha dumb panda! never recognized that...tstststs...thank u for lighting me up
I doubt it would work (I personally don't know) but you might be able to find a 7 pin to 3 pin adaptor!? Just a thought you might want to look into.

Thing is though, if you're going straight into your mixer, do you require time code or real vinyl? Cos if you don't you might as well just use standard RCA's and sack off the multicores
Matt Kane
01.04.2010
Originally Posted by dodge
Won't work mate, the multicore aren't standard XLR cables. XLR are 3 pin, multicore are 7 pin
haha dumb panda! never recognized that...tstststs...thank u for lighting me up
Sharleen Binckley
01.04.2010
Originally Posted by earl panda
i just want to know if i can plug it straight into the mixer if the mixer has xlr inputs

just for example

Won't work mate, the multicore aren't standard XLR cables. XLR are 3 pin, multicore are 7 pin
Armando Chrystal
01.04.2010
i believe this is a great DIY im planning on doing it myself (i also use traktor)

juss check out the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBx_RHjLh7Y
Xavier Emanuels
01.04.2010
multicore cables also known as "Snakes" have been around forever and are not patended - but ill look into the matter.
Doug Bieling
01.04.2010
Watch your back Bento, arent NI trying to get a patent on these cables?

You may wake up in the evening surrounded by the NI swat team with the ends of 50 shooters at the tip of your nose

Gav
Xavier Emanuels
01.04.2010
I have been believeing about creating some cables like the Multi-Core Cables NI puts out, only with some different variations. For example, not everyone uses the XLR - so i could make cables that don't have XLR collections (and cables with XRL too of course). I would try to make them with silicon casing if possible so they are super flexible. If i could put out the cable at a significantly reduces price to the NI multicore cables, would anyone be interested in purchasing these ?
Doug Bieling
01.04.2010
god knows ... not mine. My solution has sacked off all the xlrs etc and just using good old rca cables and splitters. Not $8200 ones though
Matt Kane
01.04.2010
Originally Posted by MisterMoleyMole
Not sure i get you panda.
i just want to know if i can plug it straight into the mixer if the mixer has xlr inputs

if this would be the xlr out from the multicore cable -> -> into xlr ins

just for example
Doug Bieling
01.04.2010
Originally Posted by earl panda
does it work when i just plug in the first half of my multicore comming out of my A8 straight into a mixer? (i know no timecode control)
Not sure i get you panda.

@Remote - hahah after function not pretty shinyness. Its for a home setup and to have 4 decks setup with the option of using timecode or standard cds and vinyl without the need to rewire or boot laptop this suits me down to the ground And i still have an extra
Matt Kane
01.04.2010
does it work when i just plug in the first half of my multicore comming out of my A8 straight into a mixer? (i know no timecode control)
Shirlee Depiazza
01.04.2010
They look pretty.

You can make your own that will be just as good. Infact you don't need the connectors if you can solder you could buy the cable and the ends and solder away.
Doug Bieling
01.04.2010
Yup works a treat. Stuff them over prices cables...
Doug Bieling
26.03.2010
Originally Posted by charo
i believe that's the basics of the cord yes,
good luck
What more could it possibly be? I've eventually found some posts on the NI community about them but they have been closed now. People are warey of the loss of signal quality doing it this way but like you say surely thats all the NI ones are doing.
juan garcia
26.03.2010
Originally Posted by MisterMoleyMole
Ok ... would an rca splitter on the end of the technics cable work with an rca cable going to phone on the mixer and one going to the input on the audio 8?

Whats the problem with this ? is this in effect all the multicore cable is doing?

Damn you djtters i will get you to talk!
i believe that's the basics of the cord yes,
good luck
Doug Bieling
26.03.2010
ooowhhh never even noticed hahahahaha ... and thats another one down
Matt Kane
26.03.2010
haha let me guess: u just wrote so much because u want to have the 1k posts before me
Doug Bieling
26.03.2010
Ok ... would an rca splitter on the end of the technics cable work with an rca cable going to phone on the mixer and one going to the input on the audio 8?

Whats the problem with this ? is this in effect all the multicore cable is doing?

Damn you djtters i will get you to talk!
Doug Bieling
26.03.2010
come on diy modders. How do these things work is it just a case of joining some cables together?
Doug Bieling
19.03.2010
actually, just to add (after many disagreements on here last week or so about what they did) that when i say how do they work, i mean with regards to how they allow you to still pass a signal to your mixer without the audio 8 or laptop being on.

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