The best of both worlds... Controller with stand alone mixer + turntables?
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The best of both worlds... Controller with stand alone mixer + turntables? Posted on: 09.09.2012 by Myrl Krane First of all, I'm new to this community
, so hi everybody. I used to DJ on turntables until I moved abroad. Since I didn't want to lug my turntables overseas, I ended up getting an entry-level console (Hercules RMX) which served me well for that time. Now, I have the opportunity to send my turntables to my present location. Of course I still want to be able to mix digitally (i.e. for when I play out or for tracks that I don't have on vinyl). But since old habits die hard I still want to be able to mix with vinyl sometimes. So basically in the interest of saving precious space I want to get a controller that doubles as a stand-alone mixer. It would be great if the controller also had a soundcard built in. I'm not too picky about software but I believe I'd prefer Traktor or Serato, just because those are the ones I have experience with. And finally I'm looking for something under US $800 if possible. The controllers I've found that fit these criteria are: Numark N4 Denon DNMC 6000 (I know, it comes with VDJ, but like I said, I'm flexible) Reloop Digital Jockey 2 ME Vestax VCI-400 (well, the price depends on where you get it...) Am I missing any? Do any of you have experiences with these devices (or others with stand alone mixers) to share? Also, I looked around for threads on this topic but didn't find any. If there was a prior thread on this topic please let me know. | |
| Cassie Sangermano 05.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by synthet1c
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| Latoria Kavulich 02.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by MaxOne
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| Evita Mockel 02.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by zimfella
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| Myrl Krane 11.09.2012 | I read this and at first didn't really get it and just glazed over it. I've been checking out NI's website, and I believe I'm finally starting to figure out their marketing strategy (buy their hardware to be able to use their software, or buy a certified mixer). Even though I don't really like it, I believe it still ends up being less expensive than using Serato scratch. I'm also leaning towards buying an all-out controller that can be used as an analog mixer, like the Vestax VCI-400 or Denon DN-MC6000 (On a side note, I just realized I wrote the wrong model for the Reloop. It was the Reloop Digital Jockey 3 ME, not 2). Anyway, let's just say I got the Denon DN-MC6000. If I bought Traktor Scratch, then that means I would be able to use timecode vinyl, as well as use the software that comes with Scratch (Traktor Pro) with the MC6000 alone, right? Also, can you control the remix decks on Traktor with the 3rd and 4th channels on the DN-MC6000? Or would you still have to buy a separate controller?
Originally Posted by oneapemob
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| Fannie Ohayre 11.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by Elemence
Worked like a charm. |
| Cassie Sangermano 05.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by synthet1c
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| Latoria Kavulich 02.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by MaxOne
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| Hanna Ridenbaugh 02.11.2012 | Cool |
| Evita Mockel 02.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by zimfella
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| Hanna Ridenbaugh 02.11.2012 | cheers mate, I'll check that out |
| Evita Mockel 02.11.2012 | I have the N4. It's pretty good for the price (I paid $400). If you're an effects junkie it may not be for you since it doesn't have any standalone effects for your analog sources. You'll also have to upgrade the software since it comes with Serato Intro and VDJ LE. I like how it mixes seemlessly between sources as I use both vinyl (straight vinyl not control vinyl) and digital. The N4 is also fairly wide making it difficult with tighter set ups. |
| Hanna Ridenbaugh 03.11.2012 | Hi. Don't want to jack this thread but this thread seems appropriate to what I want to ask, so won't start another. I'm running t scratch pro 2 with an audio 8 and x1 with a xone 22 and 1210s. I fancy swapping out the xone 22 with a controller with stand alone mixer capability. When I play out I just use the sound card with x1 and house mixer. But at the mo feel like just using a controller with jogs to. It's got to be small and when using the standalone mixer have a nice feel to it. Got to be 4channels. I'm stuck between a vci400 and the denon mc6000. I've not seen either in the flesh. Which has a more pro mixer feel to it? And which has better eq pots? And decent control on the pots? Some mixers ramp up the sound quickly (numark) which I find annoying. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers |
| Arthur Hintergardt 23.09.2012 | May wanna wait until Traktor releases the Z2 to decide. |
| Shonda Soulier 13.09.2012 | The Denon DN-X1600 is Traktor Scratch certified, though. If you like Denon this would be the way to go for Traktor DVS. Here are all Scratch certified mixers: http://co.native-instruments.com/ind...hcertified&L=1 As far as I know only the S4 and The Xone:4D work as Midi-capable scratch mixers... |
| Jerlene Salhab 13.09.2012 | Hello Everyone. Can someone tell me what connections do i have to make to use a Radius 3000 with the traktor audio 6 ? As a MIDI player... |
| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 12.09.2012 | The Denon MC-6000 doesn't have a soundcard capable of running timecodes in any software, it's just got an analog mixer built in. |
| Anisa Fourte 11.09.2012 | Sadly no.... You'd still have to have a Traktor interface for timecode with the Denon controller. The only non-NI scratch certified products that don't require a separate interface are listed here.. http://www.native-instruments.com/in...hcertified&L=1 I WISH the VCI-400 was certified, I'd be all over that.. But alas, looks like I'm just going to buy a DJM-900 to go into my setup, unless this new product they are unveiling tomorrow is absolutely insanely awesome... |
| Myrl Krane 11.09.2012 | Also, I don't believe I made this clear in my original post, but I believe I will retire/sell the RMX. |
| Myrl Krane 11.09.2012 | I read this and at first didn't really get it and just glazed over it. I've been checking out NI's website, and I believe I'm finally starting to figure out their marketing strategy (buy their hardware to be able to use their software, or buy a certified mixer). Even though I don't really like it, I believe it still ends up being less expensive than using Serato scratch. I'm also leaning towards buying an all-out controller that can be used as an analog mixer, like the Vestax VCI-400 or Denon DN-MC6000 (On a side note, I just realized I wrote the wrong model for the Reloop. It was the Reloop Digital Jockey 3 ME, not 2). Anyway, let's just say I got the Denon DN-MC6000. If I bought Traktor Scratch, then that means I would be able to use timecode vinyl, as well as use the software that comes with Scratch (Traktor Pro) with the MC6000 alone, right? Also, can you control the remix decks on Traktor with the 3rd and 4th channels on the DN-MC6000? Or would you still have to buy a separate controller?
Originally Posted by oneapemob
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| Hipolito Scionti 11.09.2012 | I play out with just my x1, mixer and soundcard, and much prefer that over my S2 which is fun but I just prefer a real mixer. Pete tong just uses 2 x1s but really you just need one if your only mixing 2 tunes |
| Fannie Ohayre 11.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by Elemence
Worked like a charm. |
| Myrl Krane 10.09.2012 | Thanks for all your responses. There truly are a lot of possibilities. Originally, I didn't necessarily want to use control vinyl. I just wanted to have a multifunctional mixer/controller that I can use with either mp3s (on the controller) or with vinyl (on the TTs). 3heads, you mentioned the X1 + mixer combo. But could you play out with just the x1 and a mixer? Ideally I don't want to have to take my turntables out of my house... they are heavy, and I don't want to risk damaging them or my back! In this case it seems that the VCI-400 or the S4 would be good choices. Or the DJM-T1, though it is slightly pricier. |
| Hipolito Scionti 10.09.2012 | Mixer of choice + x1 + traktor scratch with Audio 6 = win |
| Celestine Porebski 10.09.2012 | Just get a mixer of your choice and a Kontrol X1.... |
| Leeanna Ayla 10.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by oneapemob
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| Ossie Pooley 10.09.2012 |
Originally Posted by photojojo
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| Bertie Metro 10.09.2012 | Keep in mind that unless you buy a "traktor certified" mixer, or an s4, you will also have to buy a traktor audio 4/6/8/10 interface to use control vinyls. If you plan on going the serato route, well either a rane mixer for serato, or a rane sl1/2/3/4. Only if you use other softwares than traktor and serato can you use the controller soundcard with timecode vinyls. |
| Hipolito Scionti 10.09.2012 | The pioneer djx aero? Vci400 S4 |
| Leeanna Ayla 10.09.2012 | VCI-400 would be my choice. |
| Jonathan Chiuchiolo 10.09.2012 | Pioneer DJM-T1 could be good for you, It has heaps of buttons and knobs for the effects section. And comes with it's own version of "traktor scratch pro" Also if you have a RMX serial number you can upgrade to VDJ Pro for $150, then you could get a Stanton DJC.4 for $350 and run timecodes with that.. Note that you can run the analogue sound through the software and use the internal eq "which should be getting a hell of a lot better very soon" and effects as you normally would with a digital sound source. It's not an analogue mixer but will work the same as long as you run the software. http://www.virtualdj.com/community s/1685...ton_DJC_4.html Coincidentally I put together a list of all the controllers you could use timecode with in VDJ a couple of days ago http://www.virtualdj.com/community s/1683...des______.html |
| Charline Dye 10.09.2012 | With the Traktor S4 you can hook up turntables, and with the scratch upgrade you can use control vinyl. |
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