Another reason to be wary of using computers live!
Another reason to be wary of using computers live! Posted on: 04.11.2012 by Birgit Gondal Last evening
, I ran a small event in my hometown. The headline DJ had just received his MBP back from the Apple Shop repairs 2 days before, after his friend had spilled coffee over it. It had been working fine in his house when he gave it a solid road test. I was finishing up my set and he was meant to come on, everything had worked fine during sound-check, and when he tried to cue all he was getting was a fizzling white-noise. We unplugged one of the turntables and put his CDJ/soundcard out into that channel, to check that it wasn't just a dead channel but the noise was coming through still. I was using Traktor with timecode vinyl, and some actual vinyl, and in the heat of the moment my laptop became disconnected, thankfully while I was playing a piece of real vinyl. For about 15 minutes I was using 1 turntable and 1 CDJ as they were the only things I could while i connected everything back up. Thankfully I had burnt a crapload of CD's before, just in case. His laptop eventually started freaking out, and shut itself down before coming up with a 'your laptop was shut down due to a fault' screen. Me and the other DJ set his S2 and my timecode back up and went back to back for the last hour and a half. It ended up okay but it goes to show, even when you believe that your laptop is in tip-top shape (as it should be coming back from Apple having been repaired, and the laptop itself only being a month old before the coffee was spilled) things can go wrong, so always have a backup. I'm glad I did, and as a fairly inexperienced DJ it was the people on these community s who made me want to be completely sure about it the first event we ran, and not risk it. That's carried on with me and I just hope someone else learns from this story as well, because it can seriously fuck up your evening. | |
| Trista Karle 07.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Zer0beet
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| Benjamin Sieh 07.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by shr3dder
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| Ara Tima 06.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Zer0beet
It's only booting in safe mode? |
| Louanne Andrix 06.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by djproben
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| Erica Charvet 06.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by ichitaka
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| Louanne Andrix 06.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by djproben
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| Benjamin Sieh 05.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by djproben
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| Danae Dumler 05.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Zer0beet
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| Benjamin Sieh 05.11.2012 | OH I HAVE THE PERFECT DAMN EXAMPLE! 303782_527768007238553_843532482_n.jpg I was literally 2 minutes away from putting on the most complicated set I've ever done and I open my computer to this.... Thank god I was only setting up and the DJ next to me was still spinning. I am now looking for a controller with a standalone mixer. |
| Trista Karle 07.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Zer0beet
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| Benjamin Sieh 07.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by shr3dder
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| Mac Fly 07.11.2012 | Worst case scenario, your the only DJ playing that evening and you cant get your gear working correctly after an hour. |
| Mac Fly 07.11.2012 | I pod with an hour long mix plugged into a channel on the club mixer is what I use for backup. |
| Ara Tima 06.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Zer0beet
It's only booting in safe mode? |
| Fatimah Czuprynski 06.11.2012 | let me say it differently. you can't be prepared for everything, but you should avoid everything that you can avoid. like when you play wax, having some reserve needle. when playing cd, having a cd with a little mixset (when one player has to be changed, the possibility that two players die is very low). when playing from a laptop( use a laptop that doesn't crash at home and) have some cds or a usb stick with you. you may can't be preparing yourself for everything. but on the other side, the mathmatical chances that your gear AND your backup setup get killed is extremly low and this should be enough for every musician. |
| Nedra Fresneda 06.11.2012 | Can we PLEASE not go again on the Mac vs PC thingie? |
| Louanne Andrix 06.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by djproben
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| Danae Dumler 06.11.2012 | heheh sorry, was just making a joke about the mac. You still want a backup if you can. I don't have a computer backup to be honest but I always bring records. And I could bring CDs if I had to though it would not be my preference. But honestly you can't be prepared for everything. What if your back up is CDs and the laser goes out? vinyl and you lose a needle? What if the freakin power goes out; how many of you bring a wind-up phonograph and a stack of 78s to a gig? |
| Erica Charvet 06.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by ichitaka
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| Louanne Andrix 06.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by djproben
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| Benjamin Sieh 05.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by djproben
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| Danae Dumler 05.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Zer0beet
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| Fatimah Czuprynski 05.11.2012 | Of course you should always have a back up plan but since i moved from windows to mac, all problems i had were unnoticed by the crowd. so i'm happy with that. |
| Benjamin Sieh 05.11.2012 | OH I HAVE THE PERFECT DAMN EXAMPLE! 303782_527768007238553_843532482_n.jpg I was literally 2 minutes away from putting on the most complicated set I've ever done and I open my computer to this.... Thank god I was only setting up and the DJ next to me was still spinning. I am now looking for a controller with a standalone mixer. |
| Harley Zitka 06.11.2012 | Any piece of electronic is prone to failure... this goes for Pioneer CDJ's and any mixer used in clubs. ALWAYS have a backup plan, no matter what you play on. |
| Birgit Gondal 05.11.2012 | literally, if i had not had the fear of god put into me by this community, i wouldnt have had a case of CD's with me. my laptop was working just fine but we were mid switchover and i had only one turntable connected, and even then it was only connected to the mixer and not my laptop. i did not have enought vinyl to play a vinyl only set as well. just sharing this story in the hope it will encourage EVERYONE to bring a backup, not just of your hard drive but every possible medium you can, a few pieces of vinyl, even if you use cdj's, could save you if one of the cdj's fail and you need some time to replace it. |
| Sudie Torchia 05.11.2012 | I have seen so many laptops crash in mid set. Some of them were big time DJ's, Dubfire @ Matter (twice), also Paul Van Dyke @ Amnesia to name a few. |
| Leeanna Ayla 05.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Abyrne7
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| Mac Fly 05.11.2012 | Technical problems happen to all gear and in all industries of work. How you handle these problems really depends on your preparedness and professionalism. |
| Dorie Scelzo 04.11.2012 | Personally, I'd just stop using a computer that had liquid spilled on it and replace it. Depending on insurance, I'd consider reporting it destroyed and see if they'd help pay for a new one. Despite bringing a couple laptops back from the brink of death following a liquid spill, they're never the same. And if you're actually a gigging musician, that's kind of just asking for trouble. And if there are young up&commers nipping at your heals to take your gigs, it seems like spending a grand and a half when you didn't intend to is the lesser of the two evils……assuming you're beyond just scraping by, at which point, I'd probably still replace it. That being said, it's also a good reason to carry a CD wallet and/or USB keys if the club has Pioneers……and to be able to play on them. I can't count the number of guitarists who've played gigs on crappy crate modeling amps because their marshall/fender had a circuit problem that blew up tubes like it was its job and they didn't bother to replace it. |
| Geri Jarra 04.11.2012 | mine had a drink spilled on it at a gig a few months ago. I had it repaired by apple, basically just the logic board, but It doesnt seem to run as smooth as it did before. I hope it can remain reliable at least, but liquid damage really can unfold some nasty issues with these computers |
| Rosina Steinkuehler 04.11.2012 | Makes you wonder if there is a way to cover the laptop without it getting overheated. Kinda funny to see Girl Talk perform with his toughbook wrapped in plastic. |
| Erica Charvet 04.11.2012 | You should always have a fully standalone backup source, whether its a mirrored laptop, or CD's and CDJ's. End of story. An external HD is not enough... What are you going to do if your computer fails? Find another laptop, load your software and drivers, load your music collection, replug the wires, and finally get going 10 minutes later? You need to be able to switch your source immediately. It amazes me how many DJ's don't carry legitimate backups. If you don't and your set is ruined, no sympathy! |
| Joy Lechler 04.11.2012 | I agree, I always keep a back up with me (external HDD; mas my music, all the drivers, programs, and other miscellaneous things) whenever I go to a gig, just in case. |
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