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Beginner wanting to do mashups! Both on-the-fly and production in spare time.
Posted on: 08.11.2012 by Elida Vencil
Hello,

I want to get into producing mashups (and possibly original work) and doing mashups live on-the-fly.

Mashups are my favorite genre and when i hear songs i always pick out songs that i would like to mash them up with.

I am deciding between working on Ableton Live with a Launchpad or Traktor Pro 2 with a Vestax vci 100(or maybe some other midi controller - suggestions welcome!).

I really want to learn to produce my own mashups and i know ableton is probably way better for that than traktor, but i also have a passion for performing mashups live. I have so many great ideas but none of the talent (yet) and i wan't to learn!

Obviously i don't want to sink a ton of money into this hobby from the get go, but if what would you reccomend to someone who wants to do both production AND live on-the-fly mixing to create mashups?

I feel like it is near impossible to do on-the-fly mashups live on ableton (the type that i would want to learn to dp), but traktor has no production qualities.

This will only ever be a hobby for me and i would only be performing for my friends (and friends of friends) at parties so i am not aiming to be the next armin van buren, but i do really want to learn to produce my own mashups and learn techniques for doing mashups live on-the-fly.

Thanks so much!
Mistie Brenneise
09.11.2012
Thanks for checking out my videos, guys!

Originally Posted by silman
Wow! thats really cool! I didn't realize that you could control traktor so easily with a launchpad! But the launchpad has no knobs or faders, so how do you do FX and transitions? I feel like there's a lot you simply cannot do without a conventional midi controller for traktor (with dedicated knobs for high, mid, low, gain, FX, etc).

EDIT: Just took a look at your PSY/LMFAO/Space Jam mashup..... I am simpyl amazed, that was incredible! How long did it take to set up all those cue points and memorize them? I feel like its incredible work getting all the controllers set up with traktor.
I use the Launchpad purely for transport functions. I use Midi Fighters for effects. I don't have a mixer. So for these mashup routines, I set the EQs beforehand and then obviously can't change them during the performance unless it's with my mouse.

It took me about 20 hours to map all of the Launchpad's buttons and colors for my own purposes. (I had no previous mapping experience). I am a nerd. Also, each performance routine took about 10-15 hours to develop, practice, film, and edit. Sooo yeah it is a lot of work. Controllerism ain't easy, despite what it looks like on the surface.

Originally Posted by mmullen68
where do you get your accapellas and instrumentals? great quality and work btw
Through Google search, I can usually find them on music blogs or Soundcloud. If not, I rip them from Youtube. So yeah, not great sound quality... I wouldn't play most of them live on a nice sound system. But for making fun mashup videos on Youtube, it's fine.
Elida Vencil
08.11.2012
Hello,

I want to get into producing mashups (and possibly original work) and doing mashups live on-the-fly.

Mashups are my favorite genre and when i hear songs i always pick out songs that i would like to mash them up with.

I am deciding between working on Ableton Live with a Launchpad or Traktor Pro 2 with a Vestax vci 100(or maybe some other midi controller - suggestions welcome!).

I really want to learn to produce my own mashups and i know ableton is probably way better for that than traktor, but i also have a passion for performing mashups live. I have so many great ideas but none of the talent (yet) and i wan't to learn!

Obviously i don't want to sink a ton of money into this hobby from the get go, but if what would you reccomend to someone who wants to do both production AND live on-the-fly mixing to create mashups?

I feel like it is near impossible to do on-the-fly mashups live on ableton (the type that i would want to learn to dp), but traktor has no production qualities.

This will only ever be a hobby for me and i would only be performing for my friends (and friends of friends) at parties so i am not aiming to be the next armin van buren, but i do really want to learn to produce my own mashups and learn techniques for doing mashups live on-the-fly.

Thanks so much!
Mistie Brenneise
09.11.2012
Thanks for checking out my videos, guys!

Originally Posted by silman
Wow! thats really cool! I didn't realize that you could control traktor so easily with a launchpad! But the launchpad has no knobs or faders, so how do you do FX and transitions? I feel like there's a lot you simply cannot do without a conventional midi controller for traktor (with dedicated knobs for high, mid, low, gain, FX, etc).

EDIT: Just took a look at your PSY/LMFAO/Space Jam mashup..... I am simpyl amazed, that was incredible! How long did it take to set up all those cue points and memorize them? I feel like its incredible work getting all the controllers set up with traktor.
I use the Launchpad purely for transport functions. I use Midi Fighters for effects. I don't have a mixer. So for these mashup routines, I set the EQs beforehand and then obviously can't change them during the performance unless it's with my mouse.

It took me about 20 hours to map all of the Launchpad's buttons and colors for my own purposes. (I had no previous mapping experience). I am a nerd. Also, each performance routine took about 10-15 hours to develop, practice, film, and edit. Sooo yeah it is a lot of work. Controllerism ain't easy, despite what it looks like on the surface.

Originally Posted by mmullen68
where do you get your accapellas and instrumentals? great quality and work btw
Through Google search, I can usually find them on music blogs or Soundcloud. If not, I rip them from Youtube. So yeah, not great sound quality... I wouldn't play most of them live on a nice sound system. But for making fun mashup videos on Youtube, it's fine.
Vikki Jeannoel
09.11.2012
Mixed in key mashup - great bit of software
Celine Surico
08.11.2012
And with the new and relatively cheap NI F1 controller you could control a lot of clips in Traktor.

Just make sure people could dance to the mashups at live events, otherwise this will fizzle.
Breanne Penge
08.11.2012
Ableton for edits....straight serato/DVS for straight mashups with no (or minimal) edits here...

http://soundcloud.com/jprime/jailbreak-booty

http://soundcloud.com/jprime/oc-vs-sublime-times-up-jprime

http://soundcloud.com/jprime/smokeyrakim

http://soundcloud.com/jprime/raekwon-ghostface-az-new-york

One for Movember yo!
http://soundcloud.com/jprime/magnum-pi-weapon
Kareen Kreft
08.11.2012
where do you get your accapellas and instrumentals? great quality and work btw
Elida Vencil
08.11.2012
Wow! thats really cool! I didn't realize that you could control traktor so easily with a launchpad! But the launchpad has no knobs or faders, so how do you do FX and transitions? I feel like there's a lot you simply cannot do without a conventional midi controller for traktor (with dedicated knobs for high, mid, low, gain, FX, etc).

EDIT: Just took a look at your PSY/LMFAO/Space Jam mashup..... I am simpyl amazed, that was incredible! How long did it take to set up all those cue points and memorize them? I feel like its incredible work getting all the controllers set up with traktor.
Mistie Brenneise
08.11.2012
Hey man, I am pretty much in the same boat as you.. I like making mashups as a hobby. So as you said, Traktor is better for on-the-fly, and also better for planning a mashup since you can instantly set cue points and loops and play around with arrangements. Maybe when you get really good, or come up with an exceptional idea, you can move on to Ableton to produce it in a more professional manner.

As for midi controllers, you really only need a simple one to get started. I use the Launchpad because it is cheap and has so many buttons that you can map to cue points and transport controls. You can also get a Midi Fighter 3D or Kontrol F1 and mash up clips using Traktor's remix decks.

Now for some shameless self-promotion... Here are two of my mashup routines using only a Launchpad in one case, and only a MF3D in another case. As you can see, you can develop fairly complex routines with just one simple controller.

Midi Fighter 3D controlling a Remix Deck


Launchpad controlling all 4 track decks


I have a bunch of other mashup videos on my channel too, but those are simple examples. Again, I would start with one controller and add more modular controllers as you need them. The key is to have enough buttons to access all your cue points!

Hope this helps.

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