Huge beef with the CNTRL tour.
Huge beef with the CNTRL tour. Posted on: 03.11.2012 by Evie Baghdasarian So I am pretty cheesed at the organizers of the CNTRL tour, at least the Toronto stop. I saw on their facebook page that the seminar is limited capacity, and you have to email "embrace" and be picked to get a seat in the lecture and they want you to be a current student and let them know where you attend (which i am, YorkU, but my brother is a graduate). Further, Ryerson University students are getting priority seating and other people have to hope for seats to be available. I bought these tickets more so for the seminar then the after party, and this news is very disappointing to me. Either find a large enough venue, or only sell as many tickets as seats you can provide. Im sorry if this is an emotional rant, but this is disappointing news to me. Have any other stops incurred this problem? | |
| Evie Baghdasarian 11.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by ad357
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| Shayne Kohtz 11.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by oliosky
Laurent Garnier's EDM description needs spread across the world - Electro De Merde (translation - Shit Electro). |
| Shayne Kohtz 11.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by jayo
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| Evie Baghdasarian 11.11.2012 | So I must say it was a pretty cool evening. My thoughts on it are as follows. Due to traffic I got to the lecture just a few min before 7, and the line up outside the lecture hall was easily a couple hundred people long. My bro used the washroom when we walked in and came and and said to me, "i believe I just took a piss beside DJ Sneak?" Anywho, luckily a girl came by asking if anyone had email confirmations and we got moved right up to the front and were among the first to walk in. The could not have chosen a smaller lecture hall, it maybe sat 200 people at the most. Im sure Ryerson has rooms that can accommodate 500+ people. Im pretty sure a lot of people did not get in and thats too bad. My bro and I were sitting in the third row, so pretty close to the guys. DJ sneak was on the panel, I guess he was a late addition because I did not hear anything about him being there. Ean was kinda the moderator of it all and guided the direction of the discussion. The lecture had nothing to do with any of the topics they stated, like how they utilize their technology in their sets, and the impact on the art of DJing. Rather the discussion was about the concept of EDM, or as Ritchie called it Electronic Pop Music. They spoke about the current state of the scene, why it is thriving more so in some cities then others, its impact on mass media and pop culture. They talked about how this uprise of EPM is good for the culture, and what impacts it could have on the future. They schooled us a little bit about how and why they got started into DJing which was pretty cool, and how the scene was different then. Sneak and Hawtin got into a debate as to wether the ease of accessibility of music today via digital distributors is good for the culture of DJing or not. My short breakdown on each panelist. Hawtin: very passionate, thoughtful speaker with a lot of insight and knowledge about all aspects of the industry. A little bit reserved, but once he got to talking he came alive. Loco Dice: Really cool guy, great to listen to, very insightful about the state of the scene in Berlin and Europe, and really passionate about people trying to better themselves and be the next wave of DJing pioneers. Carl Craig: Laid back cool dude, lots of knowledge, he kinda had to be provoked to jump in on the convo, but when he spoke you could tell he was a very intelligent guy Ean Golden: Was more the moderator, but he did chime in with his opinion. Plugged DJTT and the MF3D a few times, he was definitely there for more of a technology perspective then DJing. Sneak: kinda pompous, not the most insightful and intelligent guy on the panel, but interesting none the less. He talked a lot of shit about deadmau5, which he should of realized he was talking to an audience in Toronto. wow a neighbour just took the front end off of my car!!!!!!!!! Just snapped some pics, this is gonna cost him a few bucks. anyways..... The after party was pretty sick, although the place was way too full, from the front all the way to the back wall. Ean: The first bit was difficult to listen to, often out of sync, and very abstract. His performace got better as the set went on, but not all the enjoyable. Some transitions and tracks really made you shake your head. Did not look at the crowd at all during the set But to see him constantly working his controllers was cool to watch. Carl Craig: simple set, smooth transitions, good track selection, did a great job as the 11pm DJ. Dice: rocked it, made the place bounce, had lots of fun and was looking into the crowd a lot. Hawtin: really destroyed the place, well thought out set, and a great peak time feel. Was buried in his technology tho, did not interact with the crowd at all. All in all a really cool evening with a bunch of legends I have not had the chance to listen or perform live, really glad I made it out. IMG_0960.jpg IMG_0965.jpg |
| Winter Ruggio 11.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by sjjven
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| Werner Bile 12.11.2012 | This was just posted on their facebook page: You asked for it, and we listened! For the first time ever, we will be live streaming a FULL lecture from the tour - this one coming to you from Necto Voltage in Ann Arbor, Michigan (moved from the University of Michigan due to huge local demand). Tune in this Wednesday, November 14 from 5pm-7pm EST with Richie Hawtin (official page), LOCO DICE (official page) Ean Golden (Fan Page), Seth Troxler, and kevin saunderson! http://www.livebeats.com/minus |
| Winter Ruggio 12.11.2012 | word,thanks for the re-cap.in my personal opinion only,Ean Golden musta' been mad nervous,as any of us would be working with the very few who play super large crowds for super large money....we booked carl craig a few years back at an event i did some art/stage set production for and it was like $4400 plus expenses....but he tore the roof off the place and his set was absolutely Dj flawless.still,props to Ean for even being chosen and going through with it....great review,great community
. props all around. j- |
| Shayne Kohtz 12.11.2012 | I wouldn't have expected any respect from Sneak haha. |
| Evie Baghdasarian 11.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by ad357
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| Shayne Kohtz 11.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by oliosky
Laurent Garnier's EDM description needs spread across the world - Electro De Merde (translation - Shit Electro). |
| Johnetta Olewine 11.11.2012 | If Sneak isn't arguing with someone you know something is not right in the world. Although I really don't believe any amount of shit talking about Deadmau5 is enough, that guy is the epitomy of "EPM sellout". Note: The term EPM should be spread thick and fast across the world. |
| Shayne Kohtz 11.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by jayo
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| Lise Cassagnol 11.11.2012 | Thanks for the heads up. Might just have to catch the show at the bar |
| Evie Baghdasarian 11.11.2012 | Yea i had to email in and be selected |
| Lise Cassagnol 11.11.2012 | So did you have to email them or something to get into the seminars? The one for Detroit is tomorrow and I wanted to go but I don't know ANYTHING about it except that it's being held at Wayne State. |
| Evie Baghdasarian 11.11.2012 | So I must say it was a pretty cool evening. My thoughts on it are as follows. Due to traffic I got to the lecture just a few min before 7, and the line up outside the lecture hall was easily a couple hundred people long. My bro used the washroom when we walked in and came and and said to me, "i believe I just took a piss beside DJ Sneak?" Anywho, luckily a girl came by asking if anyone had email confirmations and we got moved right up to the front and were among the first to walk in. The could not have chosen a smaller lecture hall, it maybe sat 200 people at the most. Im sure Ryerson has rooms that can accommodate 500+ people. Im pretty sure a lot of people did not get in and thats too bad. My bro and I were sitting in the third row, so pretty close to the guys. DJ sneak was on the panel, I guess he was a late addition because I did not hear anything about him being there. Ean was kinda the moderator of it all and guided the direction of the discussion. The lecture had nothing to do with any of the topics they stated, like how they utilize their technology in their sets, and the impact on the art of DJing. Rather the discussion was about the concept of EDM, or as Ritchie called it Electronic Pop Music. They spoke about the current state of the scene, why it is thriving more so in some cities then others, its impact on mass media and pop culture. They talked about how this uprise of EPM is good for the culture, and what impacts it could have on the future. They schooled us a little bit about how and why they got started into DJing which was pretty cool, and how the scene was different then. Sneak and Hawtin got into a debate as to wether the ease of accessibility of music today via digital distributors is good for the culture of DJing or not. My short breakdown on each panelist. Hawtin: very passionate, thoughtful speaker with a lot of insight and knowledge about all aspects of the industry. A little bit reserved, but once he got to talking he came alive. Loco Dice: Really cool guy, great to listen to, very insightful about the state of the scene in Berlin and Europe, and really passionate about people trying to better themselves and be the next wave of DJing pioneers. Carl Craig: Laid back cool dude, lots of knowledge, he kinda had to be provoked to jump in on the convo, but when he spoke you could tell he was a very intelligent guy Ean Golden: Was more the moderator, but he did chime in with his opinion. Plugged DJTT and the MF3D a few times, he was definitely there for more of a technology perspective then DJing. Sneak: kinda pompous, not the most insightful and intelligent guy on the panel, but interesting none the less. He talked a lot of shit about deadmau5, which he should of realized he was talking to an audience in Toronto. wow a neighbour just took the front end off of my car!!!!!!!!! Just snapped some pics, this is gonna cost him a few bucks. anyways..... The after party was pretty sick, although the place was way too full, from the front all the way to the back wall. Ean: The first bit was difficult to listen to, often out of sync, and very abstract. His performace got better as the set went on, but not all the enjoyable. Some transitions and tracks really made you shake your head. Did not look at the crowd at all during the set But to see him constantly working his controllers was cool to watch. Carl Craig: simple set, smooth transitions, good track selection, did a great job as the 11pm DJ. Dice: rocked it, made the place bounce, had lots of fun and was looking into the crowd a lot. Hawtin: really destroyed the place, well thought out set, and a great peak time feel. Was buried in his technology tho, did not interact with the crowd at all. All in all a really cool evening with a bunch of legends I have not had the chance to listen or perform live, really glad I made it out. IMG_0960.jpg IMG_0965.jpg |
| Winter Ruggio 11.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by sjjven
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| Marcos Zelko 10.11.2012 | ^so how was the lecture? Heard many positive reviews on twitter... The actual event at the hoxton was pretty dope, other then the fact that it was over crowded. Got there when Carl Craig was on, he absolutely killed it. Loco dice was awesome too. I wish that richie would of played a bit longer but the 1.5hour set was pretty good. At the end of his set when everyone went to coat check, I sneaked into the bottle service section on the right side and got to talk to richie for a good 5-10mins. Hes such a humble guy, and it was awesome meeting one of the guys that I really look up too. |
| Evie Baghdasarian 06.11.2012 | So on the bright side I received and email from "Embrace" today letting me know me and my bro will be getting into the seminar. I wonder if they actually listened to our displeasure or they just ended up having seats after they took care of the Ryerson students. |
| Leeanna Ayla 05.11.2012 | I never thought I could attend one of these events. The way I read it was that the talks were on college campuses and meant for college kids. Plus, I always had the impression that the whole idea was to introduce people to this whole side of EDM that they didn't know about. |
| Traci Knolhoff 04.11.2012 | It's an issue with the organizers in each city, not the CNTRL tour itself. Montreal (November 5) has the same issue because of logistical issues with the local organizers. It was going to be at McGill, but (at first) only a 75 person lecture hall was available, then bumped up to 150. Now it's at Concordia in a slightly bigger hall, but still not as big as it could be. The biggest problem with the tour though is simply that the organization was sourced out to local production companies (who all want to make money for themselves) instead of letting CNTRL organize within themselves. |
| Audrey Pinda 04.11.2012 | There was something similar along the same lines in Boston as well. I didn't end up going to either though had friends who really had a good time at the club. But the seminar? That's what I wanted to see, and it was tricky stuff figuring out, and I'm not a current college student, so it just would have been pretty much impossible to go to. I understand wanting to keep things concise to a degree, but this was bothering. I'll honestly say that most DJ's probably aren't in college (though there are a good deal that are), and so it's marketing toward a very select crowd with this tour. I wish it had been open to the public and held in a bigger community . But that's life really. I don't know who is setting up the tour, but it doesn't seem really well thought out. They could have made a lot more money and made more people happy if they hadn't limited it to people currently in school, and then that was a mess too I guess with different colleges getting priorities over others. Meh. |
| Evie Baghdasarian 03.11.2012 | Well that's great that the tickets stipulate that, which you get after you have paid for the event. I believe people are more so upset that this info wasn't explicitly stated prior to buying tickets. Imagine buying a car and finding out after paying for it that the tires are not included. |
| Marcos Zelko 03.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by jayo
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| Alla Bluemke 03.11.2012 | I don't understand? Why didn't they have multiple sessions? One day for students, one for public. Thats just silly not to do that. |
| Tera Baragan 03.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by jayo
Pretty much false advertising too a T. |
| Evie Baghdasarian 03.11.2012 | This should have been made clear to people prior to purchasing tickets, or even in the promotional material. I took it as my ticket would get me into both parts of the event. I may be acting somewhat irrational, but i feel somewhat ripped off. I believe they should take the blame off of the faculties and say straight up that they screwed up by not picking a venue large enough to host the lecture. Surely in Toronto there are man venues that could hold a couple thousand people to hold this event. Even at Ryerson, have a couple lecture halls open, and allow the artists to rotate from room to room. I understand the implications of the Q and A portion, but none the less people would be able to take part in the vast majority of the seminar. |
| Georgianna Eurick 03.11.2012 |
I've read a few posts about people being disappointed that only students can get into each of the CNTRL lectures. Unfortunately the rooms we are using at many of the colleges are not always big enough to accommodate everyone so the faculties have requested that students have guaranteed access (which makes sense). CNTRL is a new concept for us, our promoters and the colleges and we are all learning as we go along. Thanks for everyone's understanding and we hope to have more access for everyone in the future! Either way I'm looking forward to seeing/meeting everyone over the next 20 days whether that's at the college or Cub (or both)!
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| Armando Chrystal 03.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by jayo
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| Evie Baghdasarian 03.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by Santos10
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| Armando Chrystal 03.11.2012 | seems like you bought tickets to the afterparty, in NYC they had specific tickets just for afterparty and specific tickets just for the seminar even though the seminar was cancelled due to power problems because of the hurricane. And the seminar tickets were free |
| Ned Somerset 03.11.2012 | Somebody on the DJTT chatroom was saying there was no info what so ever for the university of michigan stop. |
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