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Good 2-Channel Mixer to sit next to an X1?
Posted on: 10.11.2012 by Madelene Witek
I posted a thread a while ago asking about a mixer to go with an X1 (or two). I got a lot of great responses but most were for 4 channel mixer, as I had asked, but now as I realize I probably won't be getting a second X1 for a long time 2 channels is really just fine.

I put buying the mixer off but all of a sudden I'm getting gigs in like the last 3 weeks (went from the odd friends house party to 2 shows and now opening for a Seattle DJ who opened at Freakevening 2012, ****ing stoked.)

The main two channel suggestions I got in the last thread were DJM250 and Xone 22. DJM250 sounded good at first but reviews make it sound like absolute crap. Xone 22 is definitely in my price range and seems like a great choice, but before I make that decision, I'd like to hear about some other 2 channel mixers I could look at that are in the price range. Only thing I didn't really like about the Xone 22 was that it seems pretty skimpy on features, but what can you really expect from an entry level, yet professional, 2 channel mixer.

So, at this point Xone 22 is the top choice, but as usual I want to be 200% what i'm buying is what I want.

Suggestions?

EDIT: I haven't heard a lot at all about the xone 32, it's not much mroe expensive than the 22 and it seems to have a lot more going on. Any first-hand experience? Also DJM 350?
Madelene Witek
13.11.2012
Originally Posted by oliosky
If you aren't going to need DVS ability or more than 2 stereo channels of output just grab an audio 2.
Hm... Won't need DVS. Well, would there be a situation where I would need more than that ti play out? Like what would extra channels do for me, because I see in Traktor you can't even choose more than 2 stereo outputs for you output, so what would be the need?
Johnetta Olewine
13.11.2012
Originally Posted by Sn0wday
Hm... So it looks like Xone 22 and a soundcard is what I'm gonna go for, unles there is any last minute suggestions on the mixer in that price range, no onboard soundcard.

Ack, these soundcards are expensive. I'm probably gonna go with an NI Audio but there are like 2, 4, 6, 8 and now 10. Is a 10 really necessary?
If you aren't going to need DVS ability or more than 2 stereo channels of output just grab an audio 2.
Hanna Ridenbaugh
13.11.2012
Originally Posted by Wuz
just thought i'd mention an often overlooked Xone:22 feature that i discovered after buying one (documented in the manual):
you can switch some jumpers inside of it to turn the phono inputs into lines
Nice tip!
Kristofer Krauel
13.11.2012
Originally Posted by brocklambert
If you are ever going to use it with CDJ's or turntables, yes. Keep in mind that the Z2 comes with a full Traktor Scratch Pro 2 license and timecode CD's and vinyl... the DJM-T1 comes with a lesser version of Traktor, which means you would have to purchase a Traktor Scratch upgrade kit.
Not true! T1 comes with a free upgrade to Traktor scratch pro 2.6.
Madelene Witek
13.11.2012
Alright, here is more info, because even i'm confused on what I want now...

I do not scratch.
I play mostly electronic music ranging from deep (older) dubstep to complextro. I willing be playing alongside other DJs who will play more or less more electronic music. I really don't plan to do anything too crazy in my sets other than the X1 tricks i have up my sleeps or the odd acapella. I focus most of my time as a DJ working on my own productions, as that is what I want to be able to play out consistently someday.

Some use controllers, come CDJ's, no way for me to know what a set-up might look like at a gig.

I currently have an X1 and a mixtrack pro. The mixtrack pro is useless to me (well, gonna keep it around for rowdy house parties), as I mainly use the X1. My main concern here is space; I can't just slam down an NS7 or S4 and expect it to fit as every DJ evening is a lineup these days.

So I figured I'd go the X1 and mixer dealio as; if there is already a mixer I can slide right in and do my thing, if not I'd want to have my own mixer ready to go.

I do not have a soundcard yet as the Mixtrack provides this. So my shopping list looks like a mixer and a soundcard, or as you guys brought to my attention some mixer have a sound card built in; such as the T1 or Z2.

Soundcard is a must, as I will need one for production and generally a good thing to have around. If I buy the Z2, can it's soundcard work in the EXACT same way an Audio 8 would? So if I'm at home producing and need a soundcard, I could use it? If I'm at a gig, and there is already a mixer hooked up, could I use the Z2 as just a soudncard and use the current mixer instead of having to reconfigure everything?

Cause the way I see it, the Xone 22 + Audio 8/10 costs just about as much as the Z2 itself give or take.


Originally Posted by MaxOne
All well and good getting a mixer with a soundcard but what you going to do at gigs? Bring the z2? That's a bit crazy if you ask me.

So u will still need a sound card no?
What is so crazy about that? I believe I'm misunderstanding you, what else would you do with it. It takes up no more space than a lot of controllers these days.

A mixer + X1 would be my setup, and if there is no mixer at the gig (You can't just rely on that these days), and even if there is I still need a soundcard. And it seems logical to kill two birds with one stone and get a top notch mixer specifically made for the program I use instead of a somewhat outdated mixer with a soundcard.
Erich Vallabhaneni
14.11.2012
You can get an Audio 6 on Ebay for around 200, and I don't know what budget you're aiming for but the Xone:22 is a good choice, but if its just for home use look at the new Behringer NOX mixers (if this is for travel, don't even bother with Behringer).

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-a...h-usb-dj-mixer
cala mar
14.11.2012
I'd probably go for an Audio 4 or 6 if you can stretch it.
Definitely try to get hands on some mixers on display if you can - should help you decide.
Hipolito Scionti
13.11.2012
I got an audio 10 but actually an audio 6 is ample if you're just mixing two tunes.

This is an expensive hobby but x1, soundcard and mixer is right way to go.

Get the audio 6 and the best mixer you can afford. If you get cheap gear and later upgrade you spend twice

Though an audio 2 and a xone 22 will actually get you pretty far. you just wont be able to preview tracks with the preview deck

But back in the day we didnt have that. its just a luxury i couldn't now live without
Madelene Witek
13.11.2012
Originally Posted by oliosky
If you aren't going to need DVS ability or more than 2 stereo channels of output just grab an audio 2.
Hm... Won't need DVS. Well, would there be a situation where I would need more than that ti play out? Like what would extra channels do for me, because I see in Traktor you can't even choose more than 2 stereo outputs for you output, so what would be the need?
Johnetta Olewine
13.11.2012
Originally Posted by Sn0wday
Hm... So it looks like Xone 22 and a soundcard is what I'm gonna go for, unles there is any last minute suggestions on the mixer in that price range, no onboard soundcard.

Ack, these soundcards are expensive. I'm probably gonna go with an NI Audio but there are like 2, 4, 6, 8 and now 10. Is a 10 really necessary?
If you aren't going to need DVS ability or more than 2 stereo channels of output just grab an audio 2.
Addie Engbrecht
13.11.2012
Xone 22 is def cheap. Don't be fooled by the A&H name though, there have been quite a few people w/ quality issues w/ this mixer. Just something else to consider. If it was me.....Rane TTM-56 ($450-500) and Audio 4 ($150 or less). TTM-56 is known more for being a great battle mixer, but nothing is stopping you from blending w/ it. Superior sounding mixer and top of the line faders and build quality
Madelene Witek
13.11.2012
Hm... So it looks like Xone 22 and a soundcard is what I'm gonna go for, unles there is any last minute suggestions on the mixer in that price range, no onboard soundcard.

Ack, these soundcards are expensive. I'm probably gonna go with an NI Audio but there are like 2, 4, 6, 8 and now 10. Is a 10 really necessary?
Hanna Ridenbaugh
13.11.2012
Originally Posted by Wuz
just thought i'd mention an often overlooked Xone:22 feature that i discovered after buying one (documented in the manual):
you can switch some jumpers inside of it to turn the phono inputs into lines
Nice tip!
cala mar
13.11.2012
If I was in that position i'd get a soundcard/mixer seperately as stated above to me it seems a pain to lug a bulky mixer to a gig, yes its narrow but its standard depth. I believe carrying an x1 and a soundcard would be much easier - if you mark/label your audio cables correctly setup would be effortless in a booth. You could put an x1 and a soundcard in a laptop bag with a laptop - a whole mixer would require a large bag.

not sure what advice i'd give on soundcard but since you are already looking towards NI their cards are pretty rugged - and people do use them for production.

you'll still need a mixer for home,
perhaps a pioneer mixer would be a better choice as being familiar with it would help as most clubs have pioneer gear - but at the end of the day they all function about the same so it shouldn't be that hard to adjust if you don't have a pioneer at home.

maybe compare pricing and features of whats available and see what your might like as features on the home mixer.


just thought i'd mention an often overlooked Xone:22 feature that i discovered after buying one (documented in the manual):
you can switch some jumpers inside of it to turn the phono inputs into lines
Kristofer Krauel
13.11.2012
Originally Posted by brocklambert
If you are ever going to use it with CDJ's or turntables, yes. Keep in mind that the Z2 comes with a full Traktor Scratch Pro 2 license and timecode CD's and vinyl... the DJM-T1 comes with a lesser version of Traktor, which means you would have to purchase a Traktor Scratch upgrade kit.
Not true! T1 comes with a free upgrade to Traktor scratch pro 2.6.
Madelene Witek
13.11.2012
Alright, here is more info, because even i'm confused on what I want now...

I do not scratch.
I play mostly electronic music ranging from deep (older) dubstep to complextro. I willing be playing alongside other DJs who will play more or less more electronic music. I really don't plan to do anything too crazy in my sets other than the X1 tricks i have up my sleeps or the odd acapella. I focus most of my time as a DJ working on my own productions, as that is what I want to be able to play out consistently someday.

Some use controllers, come CDJ's, no way for me to know what a set-up might look like at a gig.

I currently have an X1 and a mixtrack pro. The mixtrack pro is useless to me (well, gonna keep it around for rowdy house parties), as I mainly use the X1. My main concern here is space; I can't just slam down an NS7 or S4 and expect it to fit as every DJ evening is a lineup these days.

So I figured I'd go the X1 and mixer dealio as; if there is already a mixer I can slide right in and do my thing, if not I'd want to have my own mixer ready to go.

I do not have a soundcard yet as the Mixtrack provides this. So my shopping list looks like a mixer and a soundcard, or as you guys brought to my attention some mixer have a sound card built in; such as the T1 or Z2.

Soundcard is a must, as I will need one for production and generally a good thing to have around. If I buy the Z2, can it's soundcard work in the EXACT same way an Audio 8 would? So if I'm at home producing and need a soundcard, I could use it? If I'm at a gig, and there is already a mixer hooked up, could I use the Z2 as just a soudncard and use the current mixer instead of having to reconfigure everything?

Cause the way I see it, the Xone 22 + Audio 8/10 costs just about as much as the Z2 itself give or take.


Originally Posted by MaxOne
All well and good getting a mixer with a soundcard but what you going to do at gigs? Bring the z2? That's a bit crazy if you ask me.

So u will still need a sound card no?
What is so crazy about that? I believe I'm misunderstanding you, what else would you do with it. It takes up no more space than a lot of controllers these days.

A mixer + X1 would be my setup, and if there is no mixer at the gig (You can't just rely on that these days), and even if there is I still need a soundcard. And it seems logical to kill two birds with one stone and get a top notch mixer specifically made for the program I use instead of a somewhat outdated mixer with a soundcard.
Winter Ruggio
11.11.2012
well,a bit of intel would help....for example,do you skratch?///or do you want to?...what level or style of dj are you or would like to become.the vestax 07 hybrid that was posted is great,can also be done with a vestax 06 and the x1 to do all that onna not so crazy budget....but if you jus wanna mix and not really kut,the separation kinda starts there.also,you could also put an inno-fader into most cheap 2 channel battle mixers and the x1 and walla'....you are doing all the above.
hope this helps,let me know and i will try and find you whichever mixer you are looking for atta' fair price.
music bonds us and this community is very good for actual honest answers from actual real dj/turntablist/controllerist/crazy people who make music on computers....we are all here to help yo'.
again,let us know.modding a mixer isnt fucking rocket science,especially nowadays with step by step videos on you-tube and mad kats here.
cheers'.
j-kutta
Roseann Baith
11.11.2012
My advice: get something with XLR outs on the main and a separate booth output. Then you are covered for any eventuality.

PS: I'm also looking at the Z2 as my next upgrade.
Leeanna Ayla
11.11.2012
Originally Posted by MaxOne

So u will still need a sound card no?
I bought a Z2 and have no intention of selling my A10. Keeping it means I can still use any mixer I want any time I want.
Hipolito Scionti
11.11.2012
All well and good getting a mixer with a soundcard but what you going to do at gigs? Bring the z2? That's a bit crazy if you ask me.

So u will still need a sound card no?
cala mar
11.11.2012
Originally Posted by brocklambert
Pretty sure NI has a pretty solid track record with everything they have made, so you can either get outdated technology knowing exactly what to expect, or get the latest technology based on past success. I would choose the latest technology personally.
they should have learned a lot after the S4 but you never know, only time tells.
Federico Vilas
10.11.2012
I got a vestax 07pro w/audio 6 soldered into board. if interested i'd make a video showing the features of it. 2-channel mixer and I have the session in/out setup independent for c/d/sample decks. Works great for scratching and mixing. Everything works on it and the best thing is you don't have to have all the wires outside the mixer.
Harley Zitka
10.11.2012
Originally Posted by Wuz
Satisfied Xone 22 owner here.
I'd let the masses road test the Z2 for a while first before you commit to buying it - it did only just come out so nobody knows if it will have any widespread failings just yet. At least the other options have been out a bit longer (particularly longer for the xone 22) so you should be able to see a trend in satisfied customers or reports of common faults etc.
Pretty sure NI has a pretty solid track record with everything they have made, so you can either get outdated technology knowing exactly what to expect, or get the latest technology based on past success. I would choose the latest technology personally.
Harley Zitka
10.11.2012
Originally Posted by Sn0wday
But is it really worth considering getting one of those two just because it also functions as an audio 8? cause those look like they cost like 400$ on there own.
If you are ever going to use it with CDJ's or turntables, yes. Keep in mind that the Z2 comes with a full Traktor Scratch Pro 2 license and timecode CD's and vinyl... the DJM-T1 comes with a lesser version of Traktor, which means you would have to purchase a Traktor Scratch upgrade kit.
Madelene Witek
10.11.2012
^Was just believeing that.

The T1 looks good, cheaper than Z2 and no need for soundcard, feels kind of silly though cause it would like defeat the entire purpose of the X1 almost, as it has all those controls.

But is it really worth considering getting one of those two just because it also functions as an audio 8? cause those look like they cost like 400$ on there own.
cala mar
10.11.2012
Satisfied Xone 22 owner here.
I'd let the masses road test the Z2 for a while first before you commit to buying it - it did only just come out so nobody knows if it will have any widespread failings just yet. At least the other options have been out a bit longer (particularly longer for the xone 22) so you should be able to see a trend in satisfied customers or reports of common faults etc.
Corey Ganer
10.11.2012
If going for the Z2 price range, then why not look at the Pioneer DJM T1? Same story with the soundcard!
Edwina Fagel
10.11.2012
True story mate.
No need of Audio 8 with Z2.
Madelene Witek
10.11.2012
Although I'd love it, Z2 is pretty outside of my price range at this point.

EDIT: Just read it has a built in soundcard and all that, is it like an Audio 8? Cause that takes down the price of my mixer by like 200$ because I need a soundcard... Is this correct?
Barton Rigazio
10.11.2012
Traktor Z2
Harley Zitka
10.11.2012
Get the Z2... perfect for Traktor users that don't need a full 4 channel mixer.
Madelene Witek
10.11.2012
DJM 350 looks great, but it's nearly double the price of xone 22 and I might just be falling prey to the "ooooh pretty, shiny.." pioneer effect.
Evelynn Pennycook
10.11.2012
Traktor Z2
Hanna Ridenbaugh
10.11.2012
+1 xone 22
Annalisa Shogren
10.11.2012
DJM 400. You can get them second hand for like

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