ssd help
ssd help Posted on: 12.11.2012 by Golden Faubert ok guys nothing serious here but just a bit puzzled, ive just moved away from my windows 7 laptop that had an ssd in and booted in under 10 seconds, however on the mb i have ive installed a 128gb ocz octane ssd and i have to say the boot up time has not improver over the standard hdd at all, i have 6gb ram, trim enabled... any ideas, im running lion at the moment but considering upgrading to mtn lion later toevening
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| Shayne Kohtz 15.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by SirReal
I don't believe you get 3gb ram chips. They tend to always double in size. So you get 1gb 2gb 4gb etc. I've never seen one that hasn't been double the one below it. |
| Rolanda Clodfelder 17.11.2012 |
late '08 alu unibody, which accepts max 8gb
The matched Ram Pairs really only Matters in the real world if you are using an shared memory Integrated Graphics Card. |
| Golden Faubert 18.11.2012 | |
| Antonetta Wikel 17.11.2012 | Love the sig brian. |
| Golden Faubert 17.11.2012 | mine is a late '08 alu unibody, which accepts max 8gb.. jst need to get off my lazy arse and get some ordered.. :P |
| Dorie Scelzo 17.11.2012 | I didn't even believe about that. That could be a problem. OWC sells 16GB kits for most modern-ish macs (Air and Retina, excluded) for like $100. It's a no-brainer……unless, like me, you're lazy. |
| Trista Karle 15.11.2012 | Well this is true if you are running dual channel ram don't be fooled not all ram is dual channel or tripple. And I you wanted to be exactly correct the ram should be matched sets from manufacture such as ram kits. As far as I know with macs there's not special ram but ram optimized for them. Usually priced but I look at that how mobo manufactures have recommended ram brands and even models so take it how you like. Some more tidbits most desktop mobo have certain ram configurations when mixing and matching I would assume laptops that can take more then two sticks would be like this also. I personally can't say I've ever seen a performance dropped from mixed ram almost always will see some gain over what was there. Benchmarks maybe not but in real life terms yes... Again this maybe due to mixed and matched cant do dual channel and dual or tripple channel increase lots just as XMP ram has great improvement. On topic of SSD I have had no issues with ocz drives or corsair or Kingston but have had issues with intel SSD Drives. Likely have over 30 deployed and have several in my home systems. |
| Golden Faubert 15.11.2012 | i suppose it'll be worth a try, my data doubler is broken so i need to order a new one.. may as well get matching ram at the same time |
| Antonetta Wikel 15.11.2012 | Actually, i saw a big dip in performance of some programs with how they use the ram. I'd suggest using matching ram and seeing if it helps with your problem. It's quick and easy to check. |
| Golden Faubert 15.11.2012 | that's what i thought.. i have a 4gb 1333 ddr3 and a 2gb 1066 ddr3, as my model of macbook only runs max 1066 anyway i didnt see it being a problem as it will run the faster 1333 at 1066 by default. but thanks for the input |
| Shayne Kohtz 15.11.2012 | Ah right, I get you. Basically it's a waste of the faster speed RAM because it's only going to run at the speed of the slowest chip but you'll still get the benefit of the extra GBs of RAM. triple/quad channel - I was believeing completely about laptops, as far as I know you don't ever get more than 2 ram slots in a laptop (unless some of these mad gaming laptops have more, but I've never seen it). |
| Lina Rawie 15.11.2012 | When RAM is fitted in matching pairs it's because it's dual channel which doubles the available bandwidth. Fitting an unmatched pair (one faster than the other, rather than higher capacity than the other) means that the RAM's speed is limited to that of the slower stick. It really doesn't make a lot of difference to be honest. There's also triple and quad channel RAM, where you fit 3 or 4 matching sticks. It makes a bit more difference in those cases. |
| Shayne Kohtz 15.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by SirReal
I don't believe you get 3gb ram chips. They tend to always double in size. So you get 1gb 2gb 4gb etc. I've never seen one that hasn't been double the one below it. |
| Antonetta Wikel 15.11.2012 | @brian_johnstone, you mentioned you have 6 GB of RAM in your MB. As far as I know Mac's need to have either 4GB or 8 GB of Ram and don't do well with six. How is your Ram split up? You need to either have 2 2GB stick or 2 4GB sticks. (Edit) Actually Macs don't do well unless the RAM is matched in both slots, so conceivably, you could have 6GB if you have 2x3GB sticks but I haven't ever seen those. |
| Dorie Scelzo 14.11.2012 | CCC will do the cloning. So will a whole host of other tools including Disk Utility and dd, both of which come with OS X. As for the rest of it……… If the apps were all contained within their respective .app bundle, then you could just drag them onto the other drive. Unfortunately, no audio software works like that. So, you'll have to uninstall them one by one and then install them again, one by one. Still…60GB for your system and installed programs isn't that restrictive as long as you keep music and sampled instrument libraries on the external. I typically use about 85GB of space on my laptop. More than half of it is my Music folder. Most of the rest is sampled instruments that I didn't realize were going to be that big (Xpand! and the Avid virtual piano thing that I can never remember the name of are the worst culprits). |
| Golden Faubert 14.11.2012 | sorry to be a pain but is there a way to clone my whole ssd onto the vertex and then move my apps to the octane without having to reinstall.. im new to the mac world.. (i have ccc so know that i can obviously clone the whole drive) |
| Golden Faubert 14.11.2012 | ill give it a go.. cheers again |
| Dorie Scelzo 14.11.2012 | Yeah. The vertex3 is a much better drive. |
| Golden Faubert 14.11.2012 | thanks for the inputs gents.. ive found my old ocz vertex 3, so im gonna throw that in on a drive bay caddy... its only 60gb so will just install os to that and use the 128 for everything else... can anyone see that making improvements? ive done all of the other suggestions and it's improved a little. |
| Shayne Kohtz 13.11.2012 |
Originally Posted by djchriswoods.co.uk
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| Teresia Janusch 13.11.2012 | on a related note...i havent rebooted my mbp from i replaced the drive...and before that, it would of been months...just close the lid |
| 12.11.2012 | manually select the startup disk in System Preferences after the install to ensure a fast bootup time (it cut mine in half). |
| Dorie Scelzo 12.11.2012 | The OCZ Octane is |
| Grady Weinkauf 12.11.2012 | Odd I did SSD in my 2009 MBP, and boot time is around 15sec, and thats also being paired with a standard HDD as my storage for music. |
| Golden Faubert 12.11.2012 | scrap that.. i found it... ill do it and reboot to see, thanks. |
| Golden Faubert 12.11.2012 | i wouldnt say its slow around about 30 seconds startup and as soon as it shows the desktop it's ready, just not what i was hoping for.. how do i repair disk permissions |
| Teresia Janusch 12.11.2012 | i put a OCZ agility 3 into my 2010 MBP last month, the improvements were crazy! if its slow, make sure u regularly repair ur disk permissions |
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