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Mixer Dilemma
Posted on: 10.11.2012 by Daphne Oberting
Hey Guys. Listen I'm 13, and in pursuit of a good, cost effective mixer. I don't need hardware effects, because I use traktor or ableton effects. I am believeing of moving over to vinyl sooner or later, so at least 2 Line/Phono inputs are a MUST.

My main criteria are:
3 band, total kill EQ
MIDI Capability
At least 4 decks
At least 2 Line/Phono inputs
USB audio interface

Any reply would be awesome. I'm not a novice, so please spare the beginner stuff. Thanks for the help!
Cira Ditz
20.11.2012
Originally Posted by Nicky H
Haha maybe, I had an evo 5 for a while and the sound quality is amazing, but the thing was huge
Okay - will mention it in a few months or so if you're still after one

Did my first mix with it at the weekend and did rather love it. May even be tempted to stay with Ecler when I eventually do get the funds to get an all new mixer. Would love to try those Evo 4 range mixers
Latoria Kavulich
20.11.2012
Originally Posted by Beatmaster98
My main criteria are:
3 band, total kill EQ = Yes, plus fully customisable eq's.
MIDI Capability= Yes, most controls can be mapped and 4 midi pages.
At least 4 decks= yes
At least 2 Line/Phono inputs = Yes
USB audio interface= Yes, plus traktor scratch certified
dnx1600
Latoria Kavulich
20.11.2012
Originally Posted by DJ Asand
denon dn-x1600
i wasn't going to mention this as i could seem biased, but yes
Janyce Henningson
17.11.2012
Originally Posted by Jane
...so am likely selling on the Nuo in a few months and get a new high end A&H/Denon/Ecler Evo 5.0/Pio mixer if you're still after a Nuo 5?
Haha maybe, I had an evo 5 for a while and the sound quality is amazing, but the thing was huge
Nereida Jasnoch
17.11.2012
Originally Posted by Beatmaster98
I was doing a little research on the Denon DN X1600. It looks like a pretty good mixer for the price. Is this a good option to go with? Is it a good mixer? Thanks for all the advice you guys have given so far. It really helped
If you want the denon and you can afford it, I'd go for it. I'm sure you 'll have loads of fun.
Cira Ditz
17.11.2012
Originally Posted by Nicky H
I believe I was bidding against you if you got it from fleaBay
Aww if it was last Sunday evening it prob was me (believe there was only us two bidding on it??) - and if so am sorry about that !!

It's a luvly mixer but I believe I do need to get it serviced (some things are a little not right) - maybe I should've got a new Nuo 4.0 as tbh am not really using the onboard FX as using myr RMX 1000 (post fader fx are so useful now got a chance to use them) but I got all excited by the chance to use a mixer with an Eternal crossfader.

I'm trying get used to using various hardware mixers for playing out in clubs (previously an S4 user) so am likely selling on the Nuo in a few months and get a new high end A&H/Denon/Ecler Evo 5.0/Pio mixer if you're still after a Nuo 5?
Janyce Henningson
17.11.2012
Originally Posted by Jane
I only heard of Ecler's a few days back and ended up getting an old Nuo 5 and rather loving it.

Just wondering, would one of the new Nuo 4's be good for you - sounds like they're midi mappable and have kill eq


I believe I was bidding against you if you got it from fleaBay

Originally Posted by Beatmaster98
I was doing a little research on the Denon DN X1600. It looks like a pretty good mixer for the price. Is this a good option to go with? Is it a good mixer? Thanks for all the advice you guys have given so far. It really helped
It's a great mixer, does everything you asked for, and does it really well.

If you have your mind set on a mixer don't get an S2/S4, you will just end up selling it to buy a mixer..
Ara Tima
14.11.2012
Originally Posted by Otacon
Z2?
4 Channel.



Ecler mixers are fantastic.
Celestine Porebski
12.11.2012
Originally Posted by MyUsername
-if a mixer has 4 channels, it 'll also have that number of phono/line inputs (hell you can even hook up a TT and a CDJ to the same channel and switch between them using the input selector, I did some counting and I can hook up 4 TTs, 4 CDJs, 1 mic and 8 guitars)
This is not necessarily true, the number of phono-preamps does not have to be the same as the total number of channels. My Xone 42 only had 2 phono-preamps for example.
Nereida Jasnoch
12.11.2012
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
On topic, you're not going to find a quality 4 channel mixer for anything less than just shy of a grand, soundcard included. There are, however, some really spectacular 2 channel options for under $300. We kinda need to know your budget.
Korg zero 4 (around €600)
-full midi
-4 channels
-sick ass more channels then you 'll ever need bitchin' soundcard (just so happens to be NI scratch certified as well)
-if a mixer has 4 channels, it 'll also have that number of phono/line inputs (hell you can even hook up a TT and a CDJ to the same channel and switch between them using the input selector, I did some counting and I can hook up 4 TTs, 4 CDJs, 1 mic and 8 guitars)
-11 EQ modes (some of wich are full kill)
you didn't ask for it but it has a complex effect system (not DB4ish but it's up there)

only thing is it has a female FW400 connection, so yea, bit of a bummer there, you sure FW is a no go ?

But seriously OP I'd do this if I were you:

you want midi ? S4/S2

you going vinyl anyway ? Xone 22/DJM whatever you can offord
Cira Ditz
20.11.2012
Originally Posted by Nicky H
Haha maybe, I had an evo 5 for a while and the sound quality is amazing, but the thing was huge
Okay - will mention it in a few months or so if you're still after one

Did my first mix with it at the weekend and did rather love it. May even be tempted to stay with Ecler when I eventually do get the funds to get an all new mixer. Would love to try those Evo 4 range mixers
Latoria Kavulich
20.11.2012
Originally Posted by Beatmaster98
My main criteria are:
3 band, total kill EQ = Yes, plus fully customisable eq's.
MIDI Capability= Yes, most controls can be mapped and 4 midi pages.
At least 4 decks= yes
At least 2 Line/Phono inputs = Yes
USB audio interface= Yes, plus traktor scratch certified
dnx1600
Latoria Kavulich
20.11.2012
Originally Posted by DJ Asand
denon dn-x1600
i wasn't going to mention this as i could seem biased, but yes
Janyce Henningson
17.11.2012
Originally Posted by Jane
...so am likely selling on the Nuo in a few months and get a new high end A&H/Denon/Ecler Evo 5.0/Pio mixer if you're still after a Nuo 5?
Haha maybe, I had an evo 5 for a while and the sound quality is amazing, but the thing was huge
Nereida Jasnoch
17.11.2012
Originally Posted by Beatmaster98
I was doing a little research on the Denon DN X1600. It looks like a pretty good mixer for the price. Is this a good option to go with? Is it a good mixer? Thanks for all the advice you guys have given so far. It really helped
If you want the denon and you can afford it, I'd go for it. I'm sure you 'll have loads of fun.
Cira Ditz
17.11.2012
Originally Posted by Nicky H
I believe I was bidding against you if you got it from fleaBay
Aww if it was last Sunday evening it prob was me (believe there was only us two bidding on it??) - and if so am sorry about that !!

It's a luvly mixer but I believe I do need to get it serviced (some things are a little not right) - maybe I should've got a new Nuo 4.0 as tbh am not really using the onboard FX as using myr RMX 1000 (post fader fx are so useful now got a chance to use them) but I got all excited by the chance to use a mixer with an Eternal crossfader.

I'm trying get used to using various hardware mixers for playing out in clubs (previously an S4 user) so am likely selling on the Nuo in a few months and get a new high end A&H/Denon/Ecler Evo 5.0/Pio mixer if you're still after a Nuo 5?
Edwina Fagel
17.11.2012		Ecler Nuo 4 (not the 4.0) would be the best bet for you.
Janyce Henningson
17.11.2012
Originally Posted by Jane
I only heard of Ecler's a few days back and ended up getting an old Nuo 5 and rather loving it.

Just wondering, would one of the new Nuo 4's be good for you - sounds like they're midi mappable and have kill eq


I believe I was bidding against you if you got it from fleaBay

Originally Posted by Beatmaster98
I was doing a little research on the Denon DN X1600. It looks like a pretty good mixer for the price. Is this a good option to go with? Is it a good mixer? Thanks for all the advice you guys have given so far. It really helped
It's a great mixer, does everything you asked for, and does it really well.

If you have your mind set on a mixer don't get an S2/S4, you will just end up selling it to buy a mixer..
Daphne Oberting
16.11.2012		I was doing a little research on the Denon DN X1600. It looks like a pretty good mixer for the price. Is this a good option to go with? Is it a good mixer? Thanks for all the advice you guys have given so far. It really helped
Ara Tima
14.11.2012
Originally Posted by Otacon
Z2?
4 Channel.



Ecler mixers are fantastic.
Erich Vallabhaneni
14.11.2012		Z2?
Cira Ditz
14.11.2012		I only heard of Ecler's a few days back and ended up getting an old Nuo 5 and rather loving it.

Just wondering, would one of the new Nuo 4's be good for you - sounds like they're midi mappable and have kill eq


Celestine Porebski
12.11.2012
Originally Posted by MyUsername
-if a mixer has 4 channels, it 'll also have that number of phono/line inputs (hell you can even hook up a TT and a CDJ to the same channel and switch between them using the input selector, I did some counting and I can hook up 4 TTs, 4 CDJs, 1 mic and 8 guitars)
This is not necessarily true, the number of phono-preamps does not have to be the same as the total number of channels. My Xone 42 only had 2 phono-preamps for example.
Nereida Jasnoch
12.11.2012
Originally Posted by Shishdisma
On topic, you're not going to find a quality 4 channel mixer for anything less than just shy of a grand, soundcard included. There are, however, some really spectacular 2 channel options for under $300. We kinda need to know your budget.
Korg zero 4 (around €600)
-full midi
-4 channels
-sick ass more channels then you 'll ever need bitchin' soundcard (just so happens to be NI scratch certified as well)
-if a mixer has 4 channels, it 'll also have that number of phono/line inputs (hell you can even hook up a TT and a CDJ to the same channel and switch between them using the input selector, I did some counting and I can hook up 4 TTs, 4 CDJs, 1 mic and 8 guitars)
-11 EQ modes (some of wich are full kill)
you didn't ask for it but it has a complex effect system (not DB4ish but it's up there)

only thing is it has a female FW400 connection, so yea, bit of a bummer there, you sure FW is a no go ?

But seriously OP I'd do this if I were you:

you want midi ? S4/S2

you going vinyl anyway ? Xone 22/DJM whatever you can offord
Basil Forshee
11.11.2012		Pioneer DJM 850, Xone DB2 or still one of my favourite mixers, the Xone 4D. Denon DN-1600 is another great option.
Ralph Alderette
11.11.2012		denon dn-x1600
Bunny Sockel
10.11.2012
Originally Posted by Beatmaster98
Hey Guys. Listen I'm 13, and in pursuit of a good, cost effective mixer. I don't need hardware effects, because I use traktor or ableton effects. I am believeing of moving over to vinyl sooner or later, so at least 2 Line/Phono inputs are a MUST.

My main criteria are:
3 band, total kill EQ
MIDI Capability
At least 4 decks
At least 2 Line/Phono inputs
USB audio interface

Any reply would be awesome. I'm not a novice, so please spare the beginner stuff. Thanks for the help! And sorry I forgot to add my budget (my bad ) My general price range could be anywhere between $800 to $1200.
After seeing your budget your best bet is the DJM 850 if you can get one cheap
Armando Chrystal
10.11.2012		Allen & Heath Xone DB:4
Bunny Sockel
10.11.2012		The kontrol s4 sounds perfect for you
Nancey Inderlied
10.11.2012
Originally Posted by dfinch805
It has usb connect but i dont know about the audio interface. according to NI themselves, it has some sort of audio interface that works with traktor. Its deemed "traktor ready" by NI. with the exact criteria he wants I dont know if you can do much better for cheap. Something in the DJM 800 line has what he wants but thats going to run 3x the price.
Nope, it doesnt even have any USB capability. Pure MIDI over DIN terminals

On topic, you're not going to find a quality 4 channel mixer for anything less than just shy of a grand, soundcard included. There are, however, some really spectacular 2 channel options for under $300. We kinda need to know your budget.
Michell Wehrmeyer
10.11.2012
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
Does the DDM4000 have a built in audio interface?
It has usb connect but i dont know about the audio interface. according to NI themselves, it has some sort of audio interface that works with traktor. Its deemed "traktor ready" by NI. with the exact criteria he wants I dont know if you can do much better for cheap. Something in the DJM 800 line has what he wants but thats going to run 3x the price.
Tatum Ansaldo
10.11.2012		Does the DDM4000 have a built in audio interface?
Latoria Kavulich
10.11.2012		http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/DDM4000.aspx

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