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How do I get a WIRED connection between TouchOSC and Traktor?
Posted on: 02.12.2012 by Barton Rigazio
If I researched correctly, you CAN have a wired connection between TouchOSC and Traktor as long as you are using the Camera Connection Kit (for iPad) or the Line 6 Midi Mobilizer. I'm not trying to connect any external MIDI controllers, I'm only using iPad and a mixer (Kontrol Z2).

From the TouchOSC website: "Of course any wired MIDI connection will also work using any CoreMIDI compatible MIDI interface for iOS devices or the Line6 MIDI Mobilizer."
http://hexler.net/docs/touchosc-setup-traktor

I have the Camera Connection Kit for my iPad but I'm confused as to how it would connect to my laptop (what cable would go from the CCK to laptop?)...

If I bought the Line 6 Midi Mobilizer, would i have to use a separate soundcard with midi in/out ports (the Line6 comes with two 5-pin midi cables) ?

TouchOSC runs just fine over wifi (I use the TouchOSC Bridge connection) but I'm just trying to reduce the latency...

Any help about the Camera Connection Kit or the Line 6 Midi Mobilizer would be greatly appreciated!
Tania Somppi
02.12.2012
Originally Posted by GI Trackt
The "midi to midi" adapter in the middle is basically female midi to female midi, right? Something like this?... http://www.amazon.com/Female-Midi-co...to+midi+female

So two of these: http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Converte...ds=USB+to+midi

And two of the midi female to female adapters? Just making sure!
Yes. I believe the ones I bought were slightly cheaper
I was gonna snip the midi plugs off and crimp the wires together to save a couple of
Tania Somppi
02.12.2012
Originally Posted by GI Trackt
The "midi to midi" adapter in the middle is basically female midi to female midi, right? Something like this?... http://www.amazon.com/Female-Midi-co...to+midi+female

So two of these: http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Converte...ds=USB+to+midi

And two of the midi female to female adapters? Just making sure!
Yes. I believe the ones I bought were slightly cheaper
I was gonna snip the midi plugs off and crimp the wires together to save a couple of
Tania Somppi
02.12.2012
Originally Posted by GI Trackt
The "midi to midi" adapter in the middle is basically female midi to female midi, right? Something like this?... http://www.amazon.com/Female-Midi-co...to+midi+female

So two of these: http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Converte...ds=USB+to+midi

And two of the midi female to female adapters? Just making sure!
Yes. I believe the ones I bought were slightly cheaper
I was gonna snip the midi plugs off and crimp the wires together to save a couple of
Tania Somppi
02.12.2012
Originally Posted by GI Trackt
The "midi to midi" adapter in the middle is basically female midi to female midi, right? Something like this?... http://www.amazon.com/Female-Midi-co...to+midi+female

So two of these: http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Converte...ds=USB+to+midi

And two of the midi female to female adapters? Just making sure!
Yes. I believe the ones I bought were slightly cheaper
I was gonna snip the midi plugs off and crimp the wires together to save a couple of
Tania Somppi
02.12.2012
Originally Posted by GI Trackt
The "midi to midi" adapter in the middle is basically female midi to female midi, right? Something like this?... http://www.amazon.com/Female-Midi-co...to+midi+female

So two of these: http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Converte...ds=USB+to+midi

And two of the midi female to female adapters? Just making sure!
Yes. I believe the ones I bought were slightly cheaper
I was gonna snip the midi plugs off and crimp the wires together to save a couple of
Tania Somppi
02.12.2012
Originally Posted by GI Trackt
The "midi to midi" adapter in the middle is basically female midi to female midi, right? Something like this?... http://www.amazon.com/Female-Midi-co...to+midi+female

So two of these: http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Converte...ds=USB+to+midi

And two of the midi female to female adapters? Just making sure!
Yes. I believe the ones I bought were slightly cheaper
I was gonna snip the midi plugs off and crimp the wires together to save a couple of
Lamonica Rockholt
04.12.2012
Originally Posted by nem0nic
The iPad isn't seen as a MIDI device, even though it can send out MIDI. That's why trying to connect it to either a Mac or PC with just the USB cable will not work. You need something that will act as a MIDI interface.

Using the CCK, you can get a simple USB MIDI interface like this...

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Uno.html

...and that will act as a MIDI interface. The only problem you'll run into is that you need a 5pin interface to SEE that data. That may or may not be an issue depending on your existing gear . The other issue is that of course you aren't able to charge your iPad while using this solution.

Another option is to use the Alesis IODock...

http://www.alesis.com/iodock

This gives you MIDI in and out, and a charging solution as well. But it's not without it's issues as well. If you're doing anything that is SYSEX heavy, you'll have trouble with the IODock. It's also a dead product if you update your iPad, because it's 30pin based.

The best solution is also the most expensive, but it covers all the bases. That's the iConnectMIDI...

http://www.iconnectivity.com/iConnectMIDI

The iConnnectMIDI is a MIDI aggregator and interface, and the connection method is cable based. This means that this system can grow and change easily.
Concerning the iconnect midi, do I really have to buy an 30 pin adapter to use it with my iPad 4? Or can I just buy this instead: http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD...ity%3Dipad4gen

And then just get the right cable.

Thanks for your help, greetings!
Tania Somppi
02.12.2012
Originally Posted by GI Trackt
The "midi to midi" adapter in the middle is basically female midi to female midi, right? Something like this?... http://www.amazon.com/Female-Midi-co...to+midi+female

So two of these: http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Converte...ds=USB+to+midi

And two of the midi female to female adapters? Just making sure!
Yes. I believe the ones I bought were slightly cheaper
I was gonna snip the midi plugs off and crimp the wires together to save a couple of
Barton Rigazio
02.12.2012		If I researched correctly, you CAN have a wired connection between TouchOSC and Traktor as long as you are using the Camera Connection Kit (for iPad) or the Line 6 Midi Mobilizer. I'm not trying to connect any external MIDI controllers, I'm only using iPad and a mixer (Kontrol Z2).

From the TouchOSC website: "Of course any wired MIDI connection will also work using any CoreMIDI compatible MIDI interface for iOS devices or the Line6 MIDI Mobilizer."
http://hexler.net/docs/touchosc-setup-traktor

I have the Camera Connection Kit for my iPad but I'm confused as to how it would connect to my laptop (what cable would go from the CCK to laptop?)...

If I bought the Line 6 Midi Mobilizer, would i have to use a separate soundcard with midi in/out ports (the Line6 comes with two 5-pin midi cables) ?

TouchOSC runs just fine over wifi (I use the TouchOSC Bridge connection) but I'm just trying to reduce the latency...

Any help about the Camera Connection Kit or the Line 6 Midi Mobilizer would be greatly appreciated!
Diogo Dj Dragão
05.12.2012		Won't that also require something running on the host computer (like rtpMIDI or MIDIBridge) to convert the data and turn it around toa virtual MIDI port?
Kenya Zaretsky
05.12.2012		the cheapest and easiest way is to jailbreak your ipad and use usb teethering.
that way a network connection will establish via usb. this should have the lowest latency possible.
Diogo Dj Dragão
04.12.2012		This is what the FAQ says...

To continue using iConnectMIDI with your new iPhone or iPod Touch you will need to purchase the Lightening to 30-pin adapter from Apple.
Lamonica Rockholt
04.12.2012
Originally Posted by nem0nic
The iPad isn't seen as a MIDI device, even though it can send out MIDI. That's why trying to connect it to either a Mac or PC with just the USB cable will not work. You need something that will act as a MIDI interface.

Using the CCK, you can get a simple USB MIDI interface like this...

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Uno.html

...and that will act as a MIDI interface. The only problem you'll run into is that you need a 5pin interface to SEE that data. That may or may not be an issue depending on your existing gear . The other issue is that of course you aren't able to charge your iPad while using this solution.

Another option is to use the Alesis IODock...

http://www.alesis.com/iodock

This gives you MIDI in and out, and a charging solution as well. But it's not without it's issues as well. If you're doing anything that is SYSEX heavy, you'll have trouble with the IODock. It's also a dead product if you update your iPad, because it's 30pin based.

The best solution is also the most expensive, but it covers all the bases. That's the iConnectMIDI...

http://www.iconnectivity.com/iConnectMIDI

The iConnnectMIDI is a MIDI aggregator and interface, and the connection method is cable based. This means that this system can grow and change easily.
Concerning the iconnect midi, do I really have to buy an 30 pin adapter to use it with my iPad 4? Or can I just buy this instead: http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD...ity%3Dipad4gen

And then just get the right cable.

Thanks for your help, greetings!
Tania Somppi
02.12.2012
Originally Posted by GI Trackt
The "midi to midi" adapter in the middle is basically female midi to female midi, right? Something like this?... http://www.amazon.com/Female-Midi-co...to+midi+female

So two of these: http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Converte...ds=USB+to+midi

And two of the midi female to female adapters? Just making sure!
Yes. I believe the ones I bought were slightly cheaper
I was gonna snip the midi plugs off and crimp the wires together to save a couple of
Diogo Dj Dragão
02.12.2012		The iPad isn't seen as a MIDI device, even though it can send out MIDI. That's why trying to connect it to either a Mac or PC with just the USB cable will not work. You need something that will act as a MIDI interface.

Using the CCK, you can get a simple USB MIDI interface like this...

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Uno.html

...and that will act as a MIDI interface. The only problem you'll run into is that you need a 5pin interface to SEE that data. That may or may not be an issue depending on your existing gear . The other issue is that of course you aren't able to charge your iPad while using this solution.

Another option is to use the Alesis IODock...

http://www.alesis.com/iodock

This gives you MIDI in and out, and a charging solution as well. But it's not without it's issues as well. If you're doing anything that is SYSEX heavy, you'll have trouble with the IODock. It's also a dead product if you update your iPad, because it's 30pin based.

The best solution is also the most expensive, but it covers all the bases. That's the iConnectMIDI...

http://www.iconnectivity.com/iConnectMIDI

The iConnnectMIDI is a MIDI aggregator and interface, and the connection method is cable based. This means that this system can grow and change easily.
Evalyn Voges
02.12.2012		If you're on a Mac, you just need to plug your charge/data cable in and use CoreMIDI.

Source: I'm fairly sure I've done it.
Barton Rigazio
02.12.2012		The "midi to midi" adapter in the middle is basically female midi to female midi, right? Something like this?... http://www.amazon.com/Female-Midi-co...to+midi+female

So two of these: http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Converte...ds=USB+to+midi

And two of the midi female to female adapters? Just making sure!
Tania Somppi
02.12.2012		CCK > USB to Midi lead > midi to midi adapter > midi to USB lead (USB to midi lead ) > computer

If you have an NI audio 8 or 10 or different audio interface with a midi socket then ....
CCK > USB to midi lead > audio interface midi port
Barton Rigazio
02.12.2012		Yea I just didn't believe it was that simple...so just a USB (from CCK) to USB (laptop port) cable, right? seemed too easy to be true...
Ervin Calvery
02.12.2012		Wouldn't an ordinary USB cord connect the CCK to the computer?

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