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Transferring cue points/loops/etc between Traktor and Serato anlysed files.
Posted on: 26.03.2012 by Spencer Kilcoyne
Does anyone know of a tool which can transfer user defined cue points/loop and the like from Traktor to Serato files?

I know there was a tool for helping Serato users migrate from SSL to Traktor, but don't know of anything that goes the other way.

I predominantly play on Traktor, but occasionally use Serato (usually if I'm on the bill with someone else using Serato, as it's sometimes more convenient to use their gear). As I predominantly use Traktor, that's where I analyse my tracks, and I would like to be able to transfer them over to Serato to make sure that all the cue/loop/load points are consistent between the two libraries.

Anyone?
Albertina Fay
04.12.2012
Originally Posted by zestoi
in traktor all the info u need afaik is in collection.nml and is just a simple xml format, serato just uses ID3 tags to store cue points.
I am not sure this is accurate. I believe the cuepoints and loops for Traktor are stored in the ID3 tags as well.

If I were to send you a song I already set cuepoints for in Traktor, you would see the cuepoints when you import into your Traktor collection. This leads me to believe the cuepoints travel with the song and not the collection.
Spencer Kilcoyne
26.03.2012
Originally Posted by Hoodless
You would convert a LOT to the dark side, permanantly, myself included
Should be relatively simple ... I believe the flags are just metadata associated with the file, and I'd like to be able to set both types of flags on the file

i.e. set it in Traktor, clone them in Serato or set them in Serato, clone them to Traktor flags ...
Dione Haimes
26.03.2012
Originally Posted by Sherlock Ohms
Hmmm, I wonder if you could get hold of the definitions of the cue/loop flag from Serato and Traktor - my degree in is Computer Science and my best mate is a kick ass programmer as well, I wonder if we could conjure something up.
You would convert a LOT to the dark side, permanantly, myself included
Spencer Kilcoyne
26.03.2012
Does anyone know of a tool which can transfer user defined cue points/loop and the like from Traktor to Serato files?

I know there was a tool for helping Serato users migrate from SSL to Traktor, but don't know of anything that goes the other way.

I predominantly play on Traktor, but occasionally use Serato (usually if I'm on the bill with someone else using Serato, as it's sometimes more convenient to use their gear). As I predominantly use Traktor, that's where I analyse my tracks, and I would like to be able to transfer them over to Serato to make sure that all the cue/loop/load points are consistent between the two libraries.

Anyone?
Tatum Ansaldo
06.12.2012
Traktor does store its cue point and grid info in the track's own metadata as long as it's a file type that supports it (mp3 etc). WAVs have to have their info stored in the collection file.
Albertina Fay
04.12.2012
Originally Posted by zestoi
in traktor all the info u need afaik is in collection.nml and is just a simple xml format, serato just uses ID3 tags to store cue points.
I am not sure this is accurate. I believe the cuepoints and loops for Traktor are stored in the ID3 tags as well.

If I were to send you a song I already set cuepoints for in Traktor, you would see the cuepoints when you import into your Traktor collection. This leads me to believe the cuepoints travel with the song and not the collection.
Ashanti Andreacchio
04.12.2012
this is where you should be asking http://nextaudiolabs.com/community s/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=155 but they are Mac only and have no plans as of now to make Windows versions
Addie Engbrecht
04.12.2012
Bumpin this
Spencer Kilcoyne
30.04.2012
I hadn't forgotten, it's just hard to find the time for this whilst dealing with an 11 month old, brewing beer, and occasionally having a conversation with the wife ..

It's given me an excuse to start picking up another language as well which is nice,
Chasidy Heckenbach
29.04.2012
i'd half forgotten about it tbh... should have some time to look at it this week
Halley Wurzer
29.04.2012
Any progress on getting Traktor Cue points to transfer to Rekordbox? I can set cue points 1000x faster in Traktor thanks to the beatjump functions. Am I the only one that believes its a royal pain in Rekordbox?
Chasidy Heckenbach
28.03.2012
ah cool... then i'll try to have a look at it in a few days unless anyone else wants to in the meantime

edit: tho i guess some info on the rekordbox format might be needed - will have to see...
Halley Wurzer
28.03.2012
Right on, both Serato and Rekordbox are free downloads.
Chasidy Heckenbach
27.03.2012
no clue about the rekordbox format but getting the info out of traktor is easy enough. i could code this stuff if needed, if i knew the formats for the id3 in serator and what rekordbox used etc. pretty busy the next few days but i have a window after that. at least a command line version anyway, i'm not really a gui kind of gui, but then someone else could always take my code and do that ofc. i don't have serato or reckord box tho so maybe i'm not the chap for the job...
Halley Wurzer
27.03.2012
Not to hijack, but I'd really be interested in an app that could transfer traktor cues and grids to rekordbox.
Spencer Kilcoyne
27.03.2012
I said I was a coder ... need an excuse to buff the skills as it's been a while.
Chasidy Heckenbach
27.03.2012
as u said u were a coder i'd just use a simple bit of perl for this:

http://search.cpan.org/~lbrocard/MP3...0.12/ID3Lib.pm

in fact prototyping the whole thing in perl would be a sinch. the traktor xml is so simple it could be regex matched anyway.
Spencer Kilcoyne
27.03.2012
Ok, for my next question - anyone recommend a program to read raw ID3 tag information so I can compare and contrast?
Chasidy Heckenbach
26.03.2012
in traktor all the info u need afaik is in collection.nml and is just a simple xml format, serato just uses ID3 tags to store cue points.

not sure of exactly how they use the ID3 info but shouldn't be hard if u have an mp3 that's been setup in serato, just dump out the tags and have a look...

then an app to read the traktor nml file(s) and write to the mp3 for serato shouldn't be all that tricky...

not really sure why no one has written this before really. going both ways doesn't seem difficult if all u want is the cue points etc.
Spencer Kilcoyne
26.03.2012
Originally Posted by Hoodless
You would convert a LOT to the dark side, permanantly, myself included
Should be relatively simple ... I believe the flags are just metadata associated with the file, and I'd like to be able to set both types of flags on the file

i.e. set it in Traktor, clone them in Serato or set them in Serato, clone them to Traktor flags ...
Dione Haimes
26.03.2012
Originally Posted by Sherlock Ohms
Hmmm, I wonder if you could get hold of the definitions of the cue/loop flag from Serato and Traktor - my degree in is Computer Science and my best mate is a kick ass programmer as well, I wonder if we could conjure something up.
You would convert a LOT to the dark side, permanantly, myself included
Spencer Kilcoyne
26.03.2012
Hmmm, I wonder if you could get hold of the definitions of the cue/loop flag from Serato and Traktor - my degree in is Computer Science and my best mate is a kick ass programmer as well, I wonder if we could conjure something up.
Tatum Ansaldo
26.03.2012
I don't believe there is I'm afraid. NI made that tool to tempt people away from SSL but Serato never did the same thing. I don't believe it's something your average amateur programmer could do.

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