XY pad on mixers? Has this been done before?
Would be nice to see Pioneer/A&H come up with a decent XY pad on common club mixers ( e.g DJM900) to control any 2 assignable parameters, which can be set to release when you take your finger off.
I believe most of you will know what I mean.. Sometimes it feels like you need another pair of hands to control multiple knobs/faders, especially when building to a drop.
I say this because I'll often use fx such as echo/filter as a track is in a breakdown and moving towards a drop.. and at the same time as the track drops I need to hit play on the next track.. BUT you need to turn 2 knobs back down (e.g echo & filter)... Shit I've run out of hands... |
Nereida Jasnoch
10.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by thepanache
I'm fine, sure @myusername is too.
Sure, it 's all good bro. |
Syreeta Piela
11.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by protocollie
Attitude, mate. That's a little bit aggressive, there. I don't believe people much appreciate being spoken to like that.
Yeah ditto |
Syreeta Piela
11.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
Are we ok here?
I'm fine, sure @myusername is too. Not here to cause arguments or get into a community
row, I just don't appreciate sarcastic, closed minded, dismissive replies. |
Syreeta Piela
11.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by MyUsername
Sorry I didn't mean to offend, I might have been to rude.
But this is just my point of view, we here the people of DJTT are not product designers over at pioneer or A&H. We do not have the resources to make a new mixer, we can only speculate or ...
It 's quite clear you want this XY pad on a high end pioneer mixer so that clubs will have it, but I believe it's unlikely pioneer will come out with such a mixer because it 's clearly an effects thing you seek after and Pioneer 's most recent take on in depth effects is the RMX-1000. I believe that will stay that way for a while. (granted I am no expert, but economically it's pretty likely)
And you 're not pleased with the touch screen of the DJM 2000 Nexus
A&H also have an in depth effects thing going on, the DB series of mixers, no XY pads there so A&H is mute as well.
With that said I when I was typing my previous post I was trying to find a way I can help you but I came to the conclusion that I can't.
-Is there a pio A&H mixer w/ XY pad currently on the market ? No.
-Are they making one at the moment ? Not much speculation as of now, so no hard evidence on one w/ an XY pad.
That's pretty much it really. You want something that does not exist, and will probably only become a reality in a couple of years.
I thought it was best you had some closure.
And P.S. not a big fan of effects so there isn't much reason for me to keep track of this thread, I only tried to help but it's turning into an arguement so it's best that I just stop following this thread.
Apologies if that came over aggressive, I'm not here for arguments! |
Laurence Calisto
10.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by thepanache
Ever heard of innovation? I thought the whole point of community
s was to discuss tech and generate new ideas.. You've probably never played in a club so might not understand how a feature like this will benefit DJ's..
Attitude, mate. That's a little bit aggressive, there. I don't believe people much appreciate being spoken to like that. |
Nereida Jasnoch
10.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by thepanache
Ever heard of innovation? I thought the whole point of community
s was to discuss tech and generate new ideas.. You've probably never played in a club so might not understand how a feature like this will benefit DJ's..
Didn't expect to see such a negative/aggressive reply on this thread.. Why is it unlikely to be developed? Why would it not come round in the near future? Why settle for sub-par gear
? Who said there can't be the perfect mixer? Why plug in a crappy battery powered external fx unit when everything else is already there?..
I'm striving for innovation and development but you clearly don't share those feelings. By the sounds of it you're content with your antiquated gear.
Sorry I didn't mean to offend, I might have been to rude.
But this is just my point of view, we here the people of DJTT are not product designers over at pioneer or A&H. We do not have the resources to make a new mixer, we can only speculate or ...
It 's quite clear you want this XY pad on a high end pioneer mixer so that clubs will have it, but I believe it's unlikely pioneer will come out with such a mixer because it 's clearly an effects thing you seek after and Pioneer 's most recent take on in depth effects is the RMX-1000. I believe that will stay that way for a while. (granted I am no expert, but economically it's pretty likely)
And you 're not pleased with the touch screen of the DJM 2000 Nexus
A&H also have an in depth effects thing going on, the DB series of mixers, no XY pads there so A&H is mute as well.
With that said I when I was typing my previous post I was trying to find a way I can help you but I came to the conclusion that I can't.
-Is there a pio A&H mixer w/ XY pad currently on the market ? No.
-Are they making one at the moment ? Not much speculation as of now, so no hard evidence on one w/ an XY pad.
That's pretty much it really. You want something that does not exist, and will probably only become a reality in a couple of years.
I thought it was best you had some closure.
And P.S. not a big fan of effects so there isn't much reason for me to keep track of this thread, I only tried to help but it's turning into an arguement so it's best that I just stop following this thread. |
Syreeta Piela
10.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by MyUsername
Well hate to break it to you but what have in mind does not exist, and it is not very likely that something comes round in the near future that will resemble exactly what you want. So I believe it's best that you either be content with knobs for effects or get a little piece of gear that will do what you want (at the cost of some minor inconveniences such as the required 30 second set up time)
As with everything there is no such thing as the holy grail of mixers, there is no such thing as the perfect piece of kit.
Ever heard of innovation? I thought the whole point of community
s was to discuss tech and generate new ideas.. You've probably never played in a club so might not understand how a feature like this will benefit DJ's..
Didn't expect to see such a negative/aggressive reply on this thread.. Why is it unlikely to be developed? Why would it not come round in the near future? Why settle for sub-par gear
? Who said there can't be the perfect mixer? Why plug in a crappy battery powered external fx unit when everything else is already there?..
I'm striving for innovation and development but you clearly don't share those feelings. By the sounds of it you're content with your antiquated gear. |
Nereida Jasnoch
09.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by thepanache
That's cool but really not what I was talking about
Well hate to break it to you but what have in mind does not exist, and it is not very likely that something comes round in the near future that will resemble exactly what you want. So I believe it's best that you either be content with knobs for effects or get a little piece of gear that will do what you want (at the cost of some minor inconveniences such as the required 30 second set up time)
As with everything there is no such thing as the holy grail of mixers, there is no such thing as the perfect piece of kit. |
Syreeta Piela
09.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by liljustin
I have a DJM 2000 and have mine mapped to control my FX's in Traktor wet/Dry and the Parameter, Letting go turns it off.
That's cool but really not what I was talking about, still means connecting additional hardware. |
Syreeta Piela
08.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by MoeHawk
new djm2000 nexus has a new FX page with the kaoss pad.
Just checked this out. From what I can see it's a MIDI XY pad which is assignable to things on a laptop. Unless there's a way to route this to control internal fx. |
Syreeta Piela
08.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by MyUsername
Korg have mixer with a kaoss pad built in.
They 're pretty awesome I believe.
Korg KM series
Also, why does the pad need to built in ? Multiple modular MIDI or analog XY pads available for controlling effects.
Why not have it built in? The effects are already there generated by the mixer I'd just like to see a more flexible way to control them.. I don't want to be going in behind mixers, setting up additional gear and using send/returns..
Also, never seen or played on a Korg mixer in a club installation.. I'm sure it's a cool mixer but I'm talking about the common club installed mixers, mainly pioneer. |
Syreeta Piela
08.12.2012 | Has this been done before?
Would be nice to see Pioneer/A&H come up with a decent XY pad on common club mixers ( e.g DJM900) to control any 2 assignable parameters, which can be set to release when you take your finger off.
I believe most of you will know what I mean.. Sometimes it feels like you need another pair of hands to control multiple knobs/faders, especially when building to a drop.
I say this because I'll often use fx such as echo/filter as a track is in a breakdown and moving towards a drop.. and at the same time as the track drops I need to hit play on the next track.. BUT you need to turn 2 knobs back down (e.g echo & filter)... Shit I've run out of hands... |
Nereida Jasnoch
10.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by thepanache
I'm fine, sure @myusername is too.
Sure, it 's all good bro. |
Syreeta Piela
11.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by protocollie
Attitude, mate. That's a little bit aggressive, there. I don't believe people much appreciate being spoken to like that.
Yeah ditto |
Syreeta Piela
11.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
Are we ok here?
I'm fine, sure @myusername is too. Not here to cause arguments or get into a community
row, I just don't appreciate sarcastic, closed minded, dismissive replies. |
Syreeta Piela
11.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by MyUsername
Sorry I didn't mean to offend, I might have been to rude.
But this is just my point of view, we here the people of DJTT are not product designers over at pioneer or A&H. We do not have the resources to make a new mixer, we can only speculate or ...
It 's quite clear you want this XY pad on a high end pioneer mixer so that clubs will have it, but I believe it's unlikely pioneer will come out with such a mixer because it 's clearly an effects thing you seek after and Pioneer 's most recent take on in depth effects is the RMX-1000. I believe that will stay that way for a while. (granted I am no expert, but economically it's pretty likely)
And you 're not pleased with the touch screen of the DJM 2000 Nexus
A&H also have an in depth effects thing going on, the DB series of mixers, no XY pads there so A&H is mute as well.
With that said I when I was typing my previous post I was trying to find a way I can help you but I came to the conclusion that I can't.
-Is there a pio A&H mixer w/ XY pad currently on the market ? No.
-Are they making one at the moment ? Not much speculation as of now, so no hard evidence on one w/ an XY pad.
That's pretty much it really. You want something that does not exist, and will probably only become a reality in a couple of years.
I thought it was best you had some closure.
And P.S. not a big fan of effects so there isn't much reason for me to keep track of this thread, I only tried to help but it's turning into an arguement so it's best that I just stop following this thread.
Apologies if that came over aggressive, I'm not here for arguments! |
Tatum Ansaldo
11.12.2012 | Are we ok here? |
Erich Vallabhaneni
10.12.2012 | wow no need for you guys to lose your cool. This is just a discussion, so lets be civil. |
Laurence Calisto
10.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by thepanache
Ever heard of innovation? I thought the whole point of community
s was to discuss tech and generate new ideas.. You've probably never played in a club so might not understand how a feature like this will benefit DJ's..
Attitude, mate. That's a little bit aggressive, there. I don't believe people much appreciate being spoken to like that. |
Nereida Jasnoch
10.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by thepanache
Ever heard of innovation? I thought the whole point of community
s was to discuss tech and generate new ideas.. You've probably never played in a club so might not understand how a feature like this will benefit DJ's..
Didn't expect to see such a negative/aggressive reply on this thread.. Why is it unlikely to be developed? Why would it not come round in the near future? Why settle for sub-par gear
? Who said there can't be the perfect mixer? Why plug in a crappy battery powered external fx unit when everything else is already there?..
I'm striving for innovation and development but you clearly don't share those feelings. By the sounds of it you're content with your antiquated gear.
Sorry I didn't mean to offend, I might have been to rude.
But this is just my point of view, we here the people of DJTT are not product designers over at pioneer or A&H. We do not have the resources to make a new mixer, we can only speculate or ...
It 's quite clear you want this XY pad on a high end pioneer mixer so that clubs will have it, but I believe it's unlikely pioneer will come out with such a mixer because it 's clearly an effects thing you seek after and Pioneer 's most recent take on in depth effects is the RMX-1000. I believe that will stay that way for a while. (granted I am no expert, but economically it's pretty likely)
And you 're not pleased with the touch screen of the DJM 2000 Nexus
A&H also have an in depth effects thing going on, the DB series of mixers, no XY pads there so A&H is mute as well.
With that said I when I was typing my previous post I was trying to find a way I can help you but I came to the conclusion that I can't.
-Is there a pio A&H mixer w/ XY pad currently on the market ? No.
-Are they making one at the moment ? Not much speculation as of now, so no hard evidence on one w/ an XY pad.
That's pretty much it really. You want something that does not exist, and will probably only become a reality in a couple of years.
I thought it was best you had some closure.
And P.S. not a big fan of effects so there isn't much reason for me to keep track of this thread, I only tried to help but it's turning into an arguement so it's best that I just stop following this thread. |
Syreeta Piela
10.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by MyUsername
Well hate to break it to you but what have in mind does not exist, and it is not very likely that something comes round in the near future that will resemble exactly what you want. So I believe it's best that you either be content with knobs for effects or get a little piece of gear that will do what you want (at the cost of some minor inconveniences such as the required 30 second set up time)
As with everything there is no such thing as the holy grail of mixers, there is no such thing as the perfect piece of kit.
Ever heard of innovation? I thought the whole point of community
s was to discuss tech and generate new ideas.. You've probably never played in a club so might not understand how a feature like this will benefit DJ's..
Didn't expect to see such a negative/aggressive reply on this thread.. Why is it unlikely to be developed? Why would it not come round in the near future? Why settle for sub-par gear
? Who said there can't be the perfect mixer? Why plug in a crappy battery powered external fx unit when everything else is already there?..
I'm striving for innovation and development but you clearly don't share those feelings. By the sounds of it you're content with your antiquated gear. |
Nereida Jasnoch
09.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by thepanache
That's cool but really not what I was talking about
Well hate to break it to you but what have in mind does not exist, and it is not very likely that something comes round in the near future that will resemble exactly what you want. So I believe it's best that you either be content with knobs for effects or get a little piece of gear that will do what you want (at the cost of some minor inconveniences such as the required 30 second set up time)
As with everything there is no such thing as the holy grail of mixers, there is no such thing as the perfect piece of kit. |
Syreeta Piela
09.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by liljustin
I have a DJM 2000 and have mine mapped to control my FX's in Traktor wet/Dry and the Parameter, Letting go turns it off.
That's cool but really not what I was talking about, still means connecting additional hardware. |
Tonia Denor
08.12.2012 | I have a DJM 2000 and have mine mapped to control my FX's in Traktor wet/Dry and the Parameter, Letting go turns it off. |
Syreeta Piela
08.12.2012 | Still not quite what I was talking about.. But close.. Kind of. Completely agree it's a cool mixer.. |
Alyce Southey
08.12.2012 | check the vid out. its part synth part fx. it kinda uses samples i guess to layer over the xy when manipulated.
that setup is all just cdjs and mixer. |
Syreeta Piela
08.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by MoeHawk
new djm2000 nexus has a new FX page with the kaoss pad.
Just checked this out. From what I can see it's a MIDI XY pad which is assignable to things on a laptop. Unless there's a way to route this to control internal fx. |
Alyce Southey
08.12.2012 |
@ 13:00 shows the xy feature.
sick new mixer! |
Syreeta Piela
08.12.2012 |
Originally Posted by MyUsername
Korg have mixer with a kaoss pad built in.
They 're pretty awesome I believe.
Korg KM series
Also, why does the pad need to built in ? Multiple modular MIDI or analog XY pads available for controlling effects.
Why not have it built in? The effects are already there generated by the mixer I'd just like to see a more flexible way to control them.. I don't want to be going in behind mixers, setting up additional gear and using send/returns..
Also, never seen or played on a Korg mixer in a club installation.. I'm sure it's a cool mixer but I'm talking about the common club installed mixers, mainly pioneer. |
Alyce Southey
08.12.2012 | new djm2000 nexus has a new FX page with the kaoss pad. |
Nereida Jasnoch
08.12.2012 | Korg have mixer with a kaoss pad built in.
They 're pretty awesome I believe.
Korg KM series
Also, why does the pad need to built in ? Multiple modular MIDI or analog XY pads available for controlling effects. |
