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deck c & d controller
Posted on: 20.05.2012 by Raguel Brumfield
so i have the S2 and a midi fighter because I enjoy to do different effects during each song and at the moment really will have 1 song at a time with the other deck to transition and stuff. i want to branch out and use four decks though and use decks C & D to play a minimal house loop in the background behind my electro/house tracks to mess around with further with beats and such i was wondering what controller would best suit me to do this? a launchpad? an x1? and a mapping would be helpful too haha
Fausto Sicard
26.12.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
There's no confusion pal, I see what 'X' state for. X-session seems close to amount of controls and it's cheap.
Ah ok i see i have to check this out. Never heard of this controler. And its more than half the price of the K2. Whats my idea with the contour? The price is like the X session one with more functions.

Ramirez Son
Fausto Sicard
26.12.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
Does X-session gives enough controls for ya then?
ohoh... my english

With "X" i meant the thing i have to buy beside my S2. Not a special controler which is on the market and have the Name "X"... sorry for this misunderstanding.

btw. Would be a Reloop contour be an idea or the solution for my Problem?

Ramirez Son
Kellie Myrum
26.12.2012
Originally Posted by Ramirez Son
2nd my idead was using my S2 with "X" for having control over more two decks for smaler loops etc. So my S2 is playing the main titles of the Set and the other controler controls Deck c+d.
Does X-session gives enough controls for ya then?
Fausto Sicard
26.12.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
K2 you're looking for.
First of all i am not the Topic maker here so i do not have a midi fighter

2nd my idead was using my S2 with "X" for having control over more two decks for smaler loops etc. So my S2 is playing the main titles of the Set and the other controler controls Deck c+d.

The K2 looks great, but its price for only using 2 more decks isnt worth it. I only need 2 more Decks control with a bit FX control and a volume Fader for each new deck. Thats all. Isnt there a cheaper idea?

Thx for helping me guys!

Ramirez Son
Fausto Sicard
27.12.2012
it is the K2 for me After a long evening of research there is no alternative! Plus the feature to use it as a standalone mixer for the next party. Because of its space compared with the S2.

So again thanx and now im in the mapping crazyness...

thx Ramirez
Kellie Myrum
26.12.2012
Welcome. Happy holidays!
Fausto Sicard
26.12.2012
I ll check this out!
thanks for ur help pal!

Ramirez
Kellie Myrum
26.12.2012
Contour can do, but if you're looking for channel faders and EQs for C and D some mixer-ish style controller comes better. Oh and Session is cheaper then reloop contour as I recall.
Fausto Sicard
26.12.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
There's no confusion pal, I see what 'X' state for. X-session seems close to amount of controls and it's cheap.
Ah ok i see i have to check this out. Never heard of this controler. And its more than half the price of the K2. Whats my idea with the contour? The price is like the X session one with more functions.

Ramirez Son
Kellie Myrum
26.12.2012
There's no confusion pal, I see what 'X' state for. X-session seems close to amount of controls and it's cheap.
Fausto Sicard
26.12.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
Does X-session gives enough controls for ya then?
ohoh... my english

With "X" i meant the thing i have to buy beside my S2. Not a special controler which is on the market and have the Name "X"... sorry for this misunderstanding.

btw. Would be a Reloop contour be an idea or the solution for my Problem?

Ramirez Son
Kellie Myrum
26.12.2012
Originally Posted by Ramirez Son
2nd my idead was using my S2 with "X" for having control over more two decks for smaler loops etc. So my S2 is playing the main titles of the Set and the other controler controls Deck c+d.
Does X-session gives enough controls for ya then?
Fausto Sicard
26.12.2012
Originally Posted by Stewe
K2 you're looking for.
First of all i am not the Topic maker here so i do not have a midi fighter

2nd my idead was using my S2 with "X" for having control over more two decks for smaler loops etc. So my S2 is playing the main titles of the Set and the other controler controls Deck c+d.

The K2 looks great, but its price for only using 2 more decks isnt worth it. I only need 2 more Decks control with a bit FX control and a volume Fader for each new deck. Thats all. Isnt there a cheaper idea?

Thx for helping me guys!

Ramirez Son
Kellie Myrum
26.12.2012
K2 you're looking for.
Libbie Orion
26.12.2012
well since you said you have a midi fighter
you dont really need another controller

you can always go to the mappings area for the midi fighther you have
and check the details on mappings that fit your MF
and see if one gives you the option of pressing a button to allow you to launch remix decks play pause, loop, adjust, and so on
Libbie Orion
26.12.2012
well since you said you have a midi fighter
you dont really need another controller

you can always go to the mappings area for the midi fighther you have
and check the details on mappings that fit your MF
and see if one gives you the option of pressing a button to allow you to launch remix decks play pause, loop, adjust, and so on
Margaretta Hebenstreit
26.12.2012
Even though i use x1s, i would go for a xone k2 in this case. if you dont have eqs and faders on your mixer for decks c and d which you need it just cannot be done properly with an x1.
on the xone k2, you can map two of the faders for volume controls, two rows of the knobs for eqs (with kill buttons) and gain, two for fx (faders maybe for dry/wet) and use the pads below for transport controls like play/pause/cuepoints/loops. thats how i would do it.
Tatiana Verdeja
26.12.2012
Really, in my experience, mixing four decks on a controller with a two deck mixer should just not be done.
I've tried it, and the flow is just not right. It would be fine with rotary encoders, but using software layers for things you use as often as EQ and volume is just a terrible idea.

If whatever controller you decide to use has enough controls that you could map the mixer functions onto it, that would be fine, but something like an X1 is a bad idea for this IMO. Besides the mixing issue, even if you plan on always using sync so you don't need nudge controls, you really need some control that you can use for tempo.

Check out the Xone K2. It's got enough controls that you could do deck controls, tempo controls and mixer controls on the same unit.
If you want to be able to actually beatmatch on decks C+D, check out the Behringer PL-1. There are enough knobs on there that you could put your mixer controls on it.
Fausto Sicard
26.12.2012
Originally Posted by oliosky
i run a s2 with a kontrol x1 mapped to control track decks c and d with volume and eq controls mapped to the upper knobs.
Hi is it possible to get the mapping for this anywhere? I am very interested in exactly in this issue! I also want to use my s2 with a (net yet bought) X1 for 4 Deck Mixing. Not using too much FX's in the Set but 4 complete Decks. And another very important (an not understanding) question is: "is the Use of the upper knobs for Volume Deck C+D enough to have full Control within a Live set?"

sorry my bad english... German ..

thx in advance

Ramirez Son

PS: Wanted to write personal message but didnt know how here in the community !
Demarcus Kottemann
21.05.2012
I currently use an x1 for decks C and D. I custom mapped it to match my workflow and I have had no complaints.
Neva Sparacino
20.05.2012
The X1 is the best man when I use the cdjs or turntables the best thing i have used to control C & B is an X1 simple and with 6 extra FX
Loyce Mekonen
20.05.2012
X1 would be your safest bet for now. You can get a decent used deal on the community s and try it out without breaking the bank. It also looks good beside the S2. K2 doesn't look like a bad option, but it will set you back almost double the price of the X1.
Johnetta Olewine
20.05.2012
i run a s2 with a kontrol x1 mapped to control track decks c and d with volume and eq controls mapped to the upper knobs.
Georgina Schatzman
20.05.2012
A NanoKontrol would be perfect for what you need I'd say
Nedra Fresneda
20.05.2012
Personally I would go for a Xone K2, both NI X1 and F1 would do a nice job too, depending on your workflow.

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