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Traktor setup/recording issues
Posted on: 22.12.2012 by Ali Sin
Hi all

first post on here so be gentle

have recently migrated from rekordbox to Traktor, but having some issues with setting up

My Rig consists of CDJ-900, DJM-800 and a high spec laptop. Trying to record direct from Traktor, but cannot get this to work unless I use the internal options, b ut I lose a channel that way.
Have since installed third party software to record my sets, did one over the weekend but there seems to be a lot of lag/stammering coming from the laptop.

Is this due to the that that I am using the onboard sound card on the laptop or is it due to the fact that its a windows system? I know a lot of dj peeps use apple, but I didnt want to commit to buying a mac, just to dj as I have enough computer gear as it is.

If someone could point me in the right direction in regards to setup and correct gear, it will be most appreciated, beginning to pull my hair out here

thanks for listening

CHZ
Ali Sin
30.12.2012
Originally Posted by OmniRoss
Did you disable the built in mic on your laptop? As that should solve your problems. Also, I highly recommend the Audio 8 if you don't need the extra inputs of the A10.
nah, was still getting external feed back from somewhere, even with all the mic settings turned off. Was beginning to pull my hair out at this point and took time out before I threw the laptop out the window

I also have the TK F1 (x2) and was informed that I will need the A10 if I want to use these in my setup

CHZ
Annalisa Shogren
24.12.2012
Originally Posted by CoolHandZook
got the audacity to work, however the playback is pants. picking up external sounds

i want to cry
Make sure you've disabled the built in mic on your laptop.
Ali Sin
24.12.2012
Originally Posted by CoolHandZook
Ahhh, nice one, will go and update that now.

Thanks
got the audacity to work, however the playback is pants. picking up external sounds

i want to cry
Ali Sin
24.12.2012
Originally Posted by xs2man
As said above, you plug the 3.5mm into the line in / microphone socket, and select that as the input in Audacity. Plug the other end into either the rec out or master out depending on if you want control over the recording volume on the mixer or not.

Should work fine.
I have got 2 kontrol f1's that will need to eventually go through traktor etc. I wanted to get to the bottom of this current kerfufel so I can get some new mixes online, before playing with my sampling set up

So will be better going for the a10, yes?
Ali Sin
24.12.2012
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
Fortunately you are wrong. You need to plug the RCA end into the record out of the mixer and the 3.5mm end into your laptop's mic input, then (this is the bit you've probably missed) make sure you select the mic input as the input device in audacity or whatever you're using to record.
Ahhh, nice one, will go and update that now.

Thanks
Ali Sin
30.12.2012
Originally Posted by OmniRoss
Did you disable the built in mic on your laptop? As that should solve your problems. Also, I highly recommend the Audio 8 if you don't need the extra inputs of the A10.
nah, was still getting external feed back from somewhere, even with all the mic settings turned off. Was beginning to pull my hair out at this point and took time out before I threw the laptop out the window

I also have the TK F1 (x2) and was informed that I will need the A10 if I want to use these in my setup

CHZ
Annalisa Shogren
30.12.2012		Did you disable the built in mic on your laptop? As that should solve your problems. Also, I highly recommend the Audio 8 if you don't need the extra inputs of the A10.
Ali Sin
30.12.2012		Hi all

just to give you an update, I have connected my rig to my main pc for now and it seems to be working fine and I managed to record a decent set last evening .

also, I have created a partition on the hard drive on my laptop with intention of creating a stand alone windows installation for running traktor only. So we shall see how that goes.

Going to get the A10, but I need to raise the dosh first, so hopefully by then all my issues will be a distance memory

Thanks again for the advise

CHZ

https://soundcloud.com/cool_hand_zoo...o-mix-29-12-12
Annalisa Shogren
24.12.2012
Originally Posted by CoolHandZook
got the audacity to work, however the playback is pants. picking up external sounds

i want to cry
Make sure you've disabled the built in mic on your laptop.
Ali Sin
24.12.2012
Originally Posted by CoolHandZook
Ahhh, nice one, will go and update that now.

Thanks
got the audacity to work, however the playback is pants. picking up external sounds

i want to cry
Tamela Batara
24.12.2012		Ha ha. I wrote a big reply before, had to go out, came back, and hit send. Then read the other replies, and edited. I'm guessing the above two replies, were quick off the mark.

As FEP said, a full DVS interface would be overkill unless you are looking to go DVS later on. I guess not though. You wont need a NI card either (assuming no DVS), as your only needing to output two channels from the PC (Traktor decks C & D) and input one channel. For mixer control of these decks. Maybe something like this : http://www.dv247.com/computer-hardwa...terface--96072

But wait on other recommendations, as there might be a cheaper option.
Ali Sin
24.12.2012
Originally Posted by xs2man
As said above, you plug the 3.5mm into the line in / microphone socket, and select that as the input in Audacity. Plug the other end into either the rec out or master out depending on if you want control over the recording volume on the mixer or not.

Should work fine.
I have got 2 kontrol f1's that will need to eventually go through traktor etc. I wanted to get to the bottom of this current kerfufel so I can get some new mixes online, before playing with my sampling set up

So will be better going for the a10, yes?
Tatum Ansaldo
24.12.2012		You can't use an Audio 2 because it has no inputs, only 2 stereo outs. I believe a full NI DVS interface is overkill for just recording, your laptop's mic input should work fine if you set it up correctly, and even if that doesn't work an external recorder or a much cheaper sound card with an input channel will suffice.
Ali Sin
24.12.2012
Originally Posted by fullenglishpint
Fortunately you are wrong. You need to plug the RCA end into the record out of the mixer and the 3.5mm end into your laptop's mic input, then (this is the bit you've probably missed) make sure you select the mic input as the input device in audacity or whatever you're using to record.
Ahhh, nice one, will go and update that now.

Thanks
Tamela Batara
24.12.2012		As said above, you plug the 3.5mm into the line in / microphone socket, and select that as the input in Audacity. Plug the other end into either the rec out or master out depending on if you want control over the recording volume on the mixer or not.

Should work fine.
Ali Sin
24.12.2012		No mac, dell laptop
Tatum Ansaldo
24.12.2012
Originally Posted by CoolHandZook
Thanks m8, I have one these cables already. With audacity, it records what sound is coming out of the PC/laptop, correct me if I am wrong but if the sound is connected to the amp, mixer etc, the sound is not coming out of the pc hence audacity will not be able to pick up the sound.

I tried audacity yesterday but got nothing from it
Fortunately you are wrong. You need to plug the RCA end into the record out of the mixer and the 3.5mm end into your laptop's mic input, then (this is the bit you've probably missed) make sure you select the mic input as the input device in audacity or whatever you're using to record.
Annalisa Shogren
24.12.2012		Which Macbook do you have?

You're probably better off just getting one of these... http://www.zoom.co.jp/english/products/h2/
Ali Sin
24.12.2012
Originally Posted by OmniRoss
I don't understand, if you're using the 900's then use them in HID mode. Run this cable from the rec out of your DJM 800 to an input on your computer/laptop and download audacity, then press the big red record button. It couldn't be simpler. There's no need to have a Traktor soundcard in your case.
Thanks m8, I have one these cables already. With audacity, it records what sound is coming out of the PC/laptop, correct me if I am wrong but if the sound is connected to the amp, mixer etc, the sound is not coming out of the pc hence audacity will not be able to pick up the sound.

I tried audacity yesterday but got nothing from it
Cole Maroto
24.12.2012
Originally Posted by OmniRoss
I don't understand, if you're using the 900's then use them in HID mode. Run this cable from the rec out of your DJM 800 to an input on your computer/laptop and download audacity, then press the big red record button. It couldn't be simpler. There's no need to have a Traktor soundcard in your case.
yup, i used to record this way all the time when i was running cdjs and a mixer into my pc soundcard input. never had any issues.
Annalisa Shogren
24.12.2012		I don't understand, if you're using the 900's then use them in HID mode. Run this cable from the rec out of your DJM 800 to an input on your computer/laptop and download audacity, then press the big red record button. It couldn't be simpler. There's no need to have a Traktor soundcard in your case.
Ali Sin
24.12.2012		Am I correct in saying that, if I want the to buy the A10 I need to buy the scratch pro package also?
Ali Sin
24.12.2012
Originally Posted by DJ SB
I assumed you had the soundcard since you said you were using Traktor but I guess you were using the CDJs in HID mode. If this is the case, any cheap sound card with rca in will work for recording.

If you are using timecode and want to run the sample decks through the mixer, get the audio 10.
No sound card yet m8, hence the reason for the posting in the first place, as i needed to find out exactly where I was going wrong before I spent anymore money.

Audio 10 it is then, this is going to please the mrs lol
Halley Wurzer
24.12.2012		I assumed you had the soundcard since you said you were using Traktor but I guess you were using the CDJs in HID mode. If this is the case, any cheap sound card with rca in will work for recording.

If you are using timecode and want to run the sample decks through the mixer, get the audio 10.
Ali Sin
24.12.2012
Originally Posted by DJ SB
rca from mixer master / booth / rec out to an in on your traktor sound card. Select those channels in traktor rec pref. done.
Thanks SB, so I definitely need the sound card?

So here is my next question; my complete set up consists of the cdj900, djm 800, plus 2 kontrol f1's. do I need to buy the audio 6 or the audio 10?

Regards

CHZ
Ali Sin
24.12.2012
Originally Posted by manchild
read DJM 900 for some reason. super hungover
I edited the post after reading your reply, sorry for the confusion
Addie Engbrecht
23.12.2012		read DJM 900 for some reason. super hungover
Halley Wurzer
23.12.2012		rca from mixer master / booth / rec out to an in on your traktor sound card. Select those channels in traktor rec pref. done.
Ali Sin
23.12.2012		Thanks MC, however there is no utility appears for the mixer (djm800), hence there is no USB to connect to the laptop
Addie Engbrecht
23.12.2012		Its actually really easy and you dnt have to lose a channel, just a channel Input, so unless you're mixing w/ 4 cdj's or 2cdj's and 2 TTs then you dnt lose a channel. When the Nexus utility pops up, set one of the channels that you have no CDJ's or TT's hooked up to, to internal recording or some ish like that. Then in Traktor, set ur mix recorder to external, and ur external inpout to whatever channel you have set-up for internal recording. Done deal
Tamela Batara
23.12.2012		Ahhhh. Okay, now I see. So now you best bet would be to not use Traktor to record. To use Traktor, you would need to somehow connect the mixer to Traktor, something I have never done on a non-digital mixer (i.e. the 800 doesn't have a USB port to connect directly to Traktor).

Give Audacity a try first. Hopefully you will get better results from that.
Ali Sin
23.12.2012		Ok, will give the audacity a go and see where that gets me, btw slight typo on the original post, I have a djm 800, not the 900, my bad lol
Tamela Batara
22.12.2012		Yeah, not too far from Aberdeen. I could try to help via Skype, but, to be honest, I get lost pretty easy unless I'm sitting in front of stuff, lol. Skype might be a good shout though, usually best time for me is after 10-12 pm though.

PM me, and we can try to sort something out. Not really too sure how the Pioneer will work though. My old Pioneer mixer was just the 800, so no fancy recording in Traktor. I simply used a RCA to 3.5mm (headphone) jack, to connect the Master out to the line in / mic in on the pc. Selected the pc's soundcard as the input device in Audacity, and was good to go. Using the rec out as the Master to the stereo.

Audacity is free software though, might be worth trying that to see what results you get with that?
Ali Sin
22.12.2012
Originally Posted by xs2man
I used to use Audacity to record from the rec out (actually, I set it up to record from my main out, and used rec out for my main, so I could control the level of the recording from the mixer, and control the main volume with my amp), on my old mixer (DJM 800), through the very cheap soundcard in my laptop. Never had a problem with it. This was on a business spec Dell Windows desktop, so by all accounts, a really poor machine.

Now I have my DB4 mixer, I output the mix over USB channels 1 & 2 on the DB4, and set Traktor to record on these channels.

To record in Traktor you would have to have one of your DJM channels outputting the mixed signal to Traktor over USB so that Traktor can record whatever you are doing on the DJM. Basically you have to tell Traktor what to record, and set up your DJM to output what you want recorded.
Still not getting anywhere with this, went through what described, but still cannot record in traktor and I am currently using sound forge to record but it sounds like its recording through a mic, I must be a right mong to not be able to make sense of this.

I just noticed that you are in the area, perhaps a Skype sesh might be in order if that wont be too much trouble

Thanks
Tamela Batara
22.12.2012		I used to use Audacity to record from the rec out (actually, I set it up to record from my main out, and used rec out for my main, so I could control the level of the recording from the mixer, and control the main volume with my amp), on my old mixer (DJM 800), through the very cheap soundcard in my laptop. Never had a problem with it. This was on a business spec Dell Windows desktop, so by all accounts, a really poor machine.

Now I have my DB4 mixer, I output the mix over USB channels 1 & 2 on the DB4, and set Traktor to record on these channels.

To record in Traktor you would have to have one of your DJM channels outputting the mixed signal to Traktor over USB so that Traktor can record whatever you are doing on the DJM. Basically you have to tell Traktor what to record, and set up your DJM to output what you want recorded.

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