mapping mf3d with more than 1X shift?
mapping mf3d with more than 1X shift? Posted on: 23.06.2013 by Shu Dietiker hi thereis it possible to map more than one shift button on the mf3d with each shift button acting as a unique shift button? let's say i'm on four banks enabled and want the 1st bank to have 3 different shift buttons. the shift buttons dont do anything on their own unless they are combined with at least a secondary button. thnx. | |
| Shu Dietiker 25.06.2013 | Here's what I managed to do after a lot of time.... Arcade does increase/decrease and with combination of modifier it resets. But still not 100% what I wanted... Control: Modifier 1 Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Direct Set to value: 0 Control: Modifier 1 Modifier Conditions: M1 - 0 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Direct Set to value: 1 Control: Modifier 2 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Hold Set to value: 1 Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 0 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Inc Assignment: Deck A Button options: Auto Repeat Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Dec Assignment: Deck A Button options: Auto Repeat Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 |
| Shu Dietiker 25.06.2013 | Here's what I managed to do after a lot of time.... Arcade does increase/decrease and with combination of modifier it resets. But still not 100% what I wanted... Control: Modifier 1 Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Direct Set to value: 0 Control: Modifier 1 Modifier Conditions: M1 - 0 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Direct Set to value: 1 Control: Modifier 2 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Hold Set to value: 1 Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 0 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Inc Assignment: Deck A Button options: Auto Repeat Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Dec Assignment: Deck A Button options: Auto Repeat Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 |
| Shu Dietiker 25.06.2013 | Here's what I managed to do after a lot of time.... Arcade does increase/decrease and with combination of modifier it resets. But still not 100% what I wanted... Control: Modifier 1 Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Direct Set to value: 0 Control: Modifier 1 Modifier Conditions: M1 - 0 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Direct Set to value: 1 Control: Modifier 2 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Hold Set to value: 1 Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 0 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Inc Assignment: Deck A Button options: Auto Repeat Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Dec Assignment: Deck A Button options: Auto Repeat Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 |
| Shu Dietiker 25.06.2013 | Here's what I managed to do after a lot of time.... Arcade does increase/decrease and with combination of modifier it resets. But still not 100% what I wanted... Control: Modifier 1 Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Direct Set to value: 0 Control: Modifier 1 Modifier Conditions: M1 - 0 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Direct Set to value: 1 Control: Modifier 2 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Hold Set to value: 1 Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 0 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Inc Assignment: Deck A Button options: Auto Repeat Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Dec Assignment: Deck A Button options: Auto Repeat Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 |
| Shu Dietiker 25.06.2013 | Here's what I managed to do after a lot of time.... Arcade does increase/decrease and with combination of modifier it resets. But still not 100% what I wanted... Control: Modifier 1 Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Direct Set to value: 0 Control: Modifier 1 Modifier Conditions: M1 - 0 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Direct Set to value: 1 Control: Modifier 2 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Hold Set to value: 1 Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 0 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Inc Assignment: Deck A Button options: Auto Repeat Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Dec Assignment: Deck A Button options: Auto Repeat Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 |
| Shu Dietiker 25.06.2013 | Here's what I managed to do after a lot of time.... Arcade does increase/decrease and with combination of modifier it resets. But still not 100% what I wanted... Control: Modifier 1 Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Direct Set to value: 0 Control: Modifier 1 Modifier Conditions: M1 - 0 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Direct Set to value: 1 Control: Modifier 2 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Hold Set to value: 1 Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 0 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Inc Assignment: Deck A Button options: Auto Repeat Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Dec Assignment: Deck A Button options: Auto Repeat Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 |
| Shu Dietiker 25.06.2013 | Here's what I managed to do after a lot of time.... Arcade does increase/decrease and with combination of modifier it resets. But still not 100% what I wanted... Control: Modifier 1 Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Direct Set to value: 0 Control: Modifier 1 Modifier Conditions: M1 - 0 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Direct Set to value: 1 Control: Modifier 2 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Hold Set to value: 1 Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 0 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Inc Assignment: Deck A Button options: Auto Repeat Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Dec Assignment: Deck A Button options: Auto Repeat Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 |
| Shu Dietiker 25.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Stewe
I wrote the same cuz you asked me hahaha i'm too new for complex mapping. definitely one of THE most complex one's I have ever made with all these combos commands etc.. I guess I'll just go with the recent one I made. |
| Shu Dietiker 25.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Stewe
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| Shu Dietiker 25.06.2013 | Here's what I managed to do after a lot of time.... Arcade does increase/decrease and with combination of modifier it resets. But still not 100% what I wanted... Control: Modifier 1 Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Direct Set to value: 0 Control: Modifier 1 Modifier Conditions: M1 - 0 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Direct Set to value: 1 Control: Modifier 2 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Hold Set to value: 1 Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 0 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Inc Assignment: Deck A Button options: Auto Repeat Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Dec Assignment: Deck A Button options: Auto Repeat Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 |
| Shu Dietiker 25.06.2013 | But there's still something missing. Or not? It's basically the same mapping i had in the beginning except that the modifier is in toggle mode. here's a screenshot. Screen Shot 2013-06-26 at 2.24.57 AM.jpgScreen Shot 2013-06-26 at 2.25.07 AM.jpgScreen Shot 2013-06-26 at 2.25.15 AM.jpgScreen Shot 2013-06-26 at 2.25.23 AM.jpg Dono if I messed up or you misunderstood. I want one single button to do 3 different commands. Increase. Decrease. Reset. SORRY about not getting it. Give another shot please. |
| Shu Dietiker 24.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Stewe
Would really appreciate it. |
| Shu Dietiker 24.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Stewe
Screen Shot 2013-06-25 at 3.44.57 AM.jpg Don't get the rest. Sorry for that. Just to let you know, I've basically mapped the button to increase, decrease with modifier. |
| Kellie Myrum 25.06.2013 | Keep on man. Modifiers are all about logic. After ten years for me it's like looking in matrix I don't record any set recently because of all the mappings am working on but I will definitely take one session. Probably a trap routine too. Accepted your friend request |
| Shu Dietiker 25.06.2013 | JUST FOR INFO! IT WORKED! I've adjusted it a little..... THANKS A LOT FOR UR INPUT! I OWE YOU. I'LL BE HAPPY TO SUPPORT ON A TRACK OR TWO OF YOURS IF YOU GOT ANY. |
| Shu Dietiker 25.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Stewe
I wrote the same cuz you asked me hahaha i'm too new for complex mapping. definitely one of THE most complex one's I have ever made with all these combos commands etc.. I guess I'll just go with the recent one I made. |
| Kellie Myrum 25.06.2013 | (writing same sentence again) Dude I answered it twice in this thread If I have 3D I'd made you a TSI so far... |
| Shu Dietiker 25.06.2013 | I have them programmed now like this: Increase by simply hitting arcade. Decrease by holding shift+arcade. This is what I managed so far... fairly simple. |
| Shu Dietiker 25.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Stewe
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| Shu Dietiker 25.06.2013 | Here's what I managed to do after a lot of time.... Arcade does increase/decrease and with combination of modifier it resets. But still not 100% what I wanted... Control: Modifier 1 Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Direct Set to value: 0 Control: Modifier 1 Modifier Conditions: M1 - 0 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Direct Set to value: 1 Control: Modifier 2 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Hold Set to value: 1 Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 0 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Inc Assignment: Deck A Button options: Auto Repeat Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 Type of Controller: Button Interaction: Dec Assignment: Deck A Button options: Auto Repeat Control: High Adjust Modifier Conditions: M1 - 1 |
| Kellie Myrum 25.06.2013 | Back to beginning then. So you had three shift buttons and you needed to hold ether one to do a different interaction? Personally I'd set them to direct mode and rather to have mode always selected. |
| Shu Dietiker 25.06.2013 | But there's still something missing. Or not? It's basically the same mapping i had in the beginning except that the modifier is in toggle mode. here's a screenshot. Screen Shot 2013-06-26 at 2.24.57 AM.jpgScreen Shot 2013-06-26 at 2.25.07 AM.jpgScreen Shot 2013-06-26 at 2.25.15 AM.jpgScreen Shot 2013-06-26 at 2.25.23 AM.jpg Dono if I messed up or you misunderstood. I want one single button to do 3 different commands. Increase. Decrease. Reset. SORRY about not getting it. Give another shot please. |
| Shu Dietiker 25.06.2013 | still dont get it |
| Kellie Myrum 25.06.2013 | What ever modifier you're using for adjusting filter just go ahead and assign it for corresponding modifier value of your toggling modifier. That way your inc/dec modifier will be activated only when one of this two states is toggled. |
| Shu Dietiker 24.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Stewe
Would really appreciate it. |
| Kellie Myrum 24.06.2013 | Assign that modifier to work in same condition as your inc state will be |
| Shu Dietiker 24.06.2013 |
Originally Posted by Stewe
Screen Shot 2013-06-25 at 3.44.57 AM.jpg Don't get the rest. Sorry for that. Just to let you know, I've basically mapped the button to increase, decrease with modifier. |
| Kellie Myrum 24.06.2013 | Here's example with modifier 1: Add in Modifier 1 Modifier conditions / M1=0 Type of controller-button Interaction mode-direct Set to value-1 Add in Modifier 1 Modifier conditions / M1=1 Type of controller-button Interaction mode-direct Set to value-0 After you got it working assign condition 0 for increment and assign condition 1 for your reset command. In this scenario the parameter should be reset every second time you hit the button. |
| Shu Dietiker 24.06.2013 | Yeah I thought of that reset by releasing but technically I am mapping an EQ mixer on one of the pages of the MF3D so it would be nicer if I had the possibility to inc/dec. Can you please help me out here? not sure how to do that toggle modifier. |
| Kellie Myrum 24.06.2013 | How about reset to certain value on release of the button? However one toggling modifier can handle that double press thing: Set a modifier to switch between two values on each press and assign one state to inc/dec and second state to reset parameter. |
| Shu Dietiker 24.06.2013 | I've mapped the filter by holding it to increase with autorepeat and by holding a modifier next to it it would decrease. I was believein to perhaps double press it and it would reset. Or any other suggestions or way around it? |
| Kellie Myrum 24.06.2013 | Do you have parameter value kick in when you press the button for first time and how do you adjust filter? By holding? |
| Shu Dietiker 24.06.2013 | I'm still having trouble setting this. I want one arcade button to modulate the filter values. I was able to make one arcade button to increase and decrease while holding a modifier. but how can i set it to "reset" the value by simply double pressing the same arcade button? |
| Shu Dietiker 23.06.2013 | i read it but certain things i didnt quiet get |
| Nedra Fresneda 23.06.2013 | Read the MF's manual, it indicates what messages you need to send back to the unit to use the time synced animations. |
| Shu Dietiker 23.06.2013 | I'm looking at bome now. Never heard of it. |
| Shu Dietiker 23.06.2013 | thanks. helpful.
Originally Posted by padi_04
is there a way I could map the arcade to blink in a certain manner? such as to adapt to a certain bpm? or strobe? |
| Nedra Fresneda 23.06.2013 | Yup, modifiers again. You map the conditions so when the modifier is 0 it jumps to 1, then to 2, then to 3 and finally back to 0. If you mean that the interval between clicking is timed (picture clicking and double clicking with your mouse) then you are out luck unless you use a 3rd party app such as Bome's. |
| Shu Dietiker 23.06.2013 | what if I want to map a button to do different things without a shift/modifier, such as if I press the arcade button once it does a command and if i hit it 2 or 3 times in a row it does something different. Is that possible? |
| Nedra Fresneda 23.06.2013 | As long as you have free modifiers, map away! You can set the MF from the utility to either keep or send different values from the side buttons as you navigate the different banks. http://www.djranking s.com/2008/12/22/get-more-controlls/ |
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