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Can anyone else relate to this?
Posted on: 10.01.2013 by Deangelo Boender
I'll try and keep the story short! I've never been angry about taking credit as the dj but this has me furious.
New years eve I was booked to play a "rave" at a local bar. After midevening "Jimmykins" and myself were supposed to play electro house, dubstep, remixes or whatever else you play at a "rave".

The plan was for us to tag team every hour or two basically until everyone was gone, the owner said "we are going to try and just not close." I was looking forward to a five am minimal set!
I had never played next to this Jimmykins character, but was I in for a surprise.

At midevening Jimmykins set a playlist in VDJ, maybe 12 or 13 songs. I didn't say anything. As soon as I was done setting up, he said I could take it after his playlist. I thought 12:30 was a little early to trade off, but we had all evening anyway, right? I get two songs into my first set, and he slurs something into my ear, pats me on the back and says "Have a nice evening man!"
... like he's leaving?
I thought "damn, I guess I can keep this going all evening , I've done it before."(The cops wound up shutting us down, but whatever lol)
I played the best set of my life, almost three hours, and the dance floor was going crazy!
The promoter said he's never booking Jimmykins again, I'm all they need for any more club evening s or raves.

Today Jimmykins posts a picture a friend of his took from the DJ booth, of him in his half hour of unmixed head banging, with the tagline
"apparently i killed it that nite, that is what people keep telling me"

W
T
F
Cole Maroto
11.01.2013
Originally Posted by antifmradio
You guys should be "Internet Friends"
cough cough, knife party, cough
oh dear god that's disturbing. i'm glad he doesn't live in my state anymore...
Libbie Orion
10.01.2013
Originally Posted by squidot
this has kind of happened to me.

i met another dj at my last job about 10 years ago and did several gigs and house parties with him. he landed us a spot at a hookah lounge here in town and invited me to open for him. btw, he would never let me be the closer in spite of me telling him it may be a better idea since i was bringing 100% of the people into the venue. that is not an exaggeration. he had 0 people he knew show up every time and i had about 15-30 that i was pulling in for the few weeks we gigged there. it was a small place so that filled it out pretty nicely. there were also some random folks who just popped in as well.

the first evening there, i was spinning some nice, loungy deep house with occasional world vibes sprinkled throughout. you know, the kind of stuff that was in my comfort zone and makes sense in a hookah lounge. songs you would nod your head to while just hanging out and relaxing. i could tell everyone was digging it and jamming along (outside of the couple odd requests for 50 cent and the doors - yup). a group of people came in on my last song (a mellow 16 bit lolitas deep tune) and they gave me a thumbs up and commented on how they were digging the vibes. unfortunately for them my friend was next up and completely destroyed the mood. his first track mixed in was a hard, hard, trance track that he had the pitch fader waaaaaaay down to beatmatch and then he worked the bpms up over 130 very quickly. everyone just stopped, looked at the stage stunned, saw me packing up my gear, and literally all just left. EVERYONE. he cleared out over 30 people including the ones who just got there and sat down. all my friends waited outside for me and they said they couldn't take the music he played. he still occasionally references that "residency" where he "killed" the place. yeah, well it died for sure...every time he came up after me, everyone would shake their head in disbelief and take off.

it's funny because he is the same dude who will constantly post disparaging remarks on his facebook about how he cant get any gigs because laptop djs are stealing them for bar tabs. he calls us "serato jokers" and believes we all torrent music that we scout from the beatport top 100 chart. he actually believes that people who use anything but vinyl have no talent and are not real djs (yes even cdjs). he believes house music is dead. he believes that it's easier and less expensive to get vinyl pressed than a digital song out there.

HE TRIES TO CHARGE $700/HR - 2 HOUR MINIMUM - WEEKLY SPOT - 3 MONTH CONTRACT FOR HIS GIGS. he trainwrecks a lot of transitions. most of his mixes are dissonant. he sends empty jewel cases to promoters to seem in-demand. he spins only hard dance music, usually of the trance variety. he has never produced a track that's harmonically compatible. then he blames people who use laptops (that all pirate everything) as the sole reason he doesn't get any gigs. i made a small joke about his "artist" rates on my facebook page and he wrote a whole diatribe of ramblings on my page and de-friended me for it.

yup, i've had some good times with this dude.
You guys should be "Internet Friends"
cough cough, knife party, cough
Libbie Orion
10.01.2013
Originally Posted by Nakkanen
be happy in the knowledge that you Killed, all the credit is in the people on the dancefloor having a good time, not some stupid meaningless internet post.
This comment just made me believe of something.
lol
internet posts like that are the same as the panties on paris hilton


here today
gone in 60 seconds
Valeri Holderness
10.01.2013
Originally Posted by antifmradio
actually this same thing happened to me YEAAAARS ago

Dj boris (big at the time in the North East USA) was supposed to play while i opened one evening in New York.
Cant remember the name of the place for the life of me but hey.... its long over.

Well i opened for a couple hours of dropping beats, then he comes walking in.
This guy actually went to the owner and said "He didnt like the vibe of the evening with the music i was going to leave him off with"
he said this to the owner.
then he says that he is leaving,
came back to the booth
took his stuff
and walked out. Didnt seem pissed, just like, he was not in the mood.

The owner came to me while still playing and begged that i had enough music to cover the rest of the evening .
I did, no problem
he then proceeded to give me an envelope with Boris' pay in it.
I said "I dont know how to reach him"
the owner said that the money was for me.

like im going to say no?

but all the promotions and whatnot, marketing and stuff that came out next day.
editorials,
blogs
news articles bla bla bla

they all spoke of Boris ripping it up in a set that was described as "Rare Form"


ok so what about me? i got no credit for it, and still, i didnt argue it either.


My advice, stick to your guns man.


This is one of those times where is best to say NOTHING at all. Take it while you can get it, and cherish it for now
thats nuts, i'd be ticked
Deangelo Boender
10.01.2013
Originally Posted by antifmradio
actually this same thing happened to me YEAAAARS ago
This is one of those times where is best to say NOTHING at all. Take it while you can get it, and cherish it for now
That totally sucks! I knew I wasn't the only person to experience this exact scenario!
Brunilda Kora
11.01.2013
post a comment asking him when the promoters are booking him next.
This.

And then victory is yours.
Sherrell Dargenio
11.01.2013
That sounds incredibly frustrating, but in the long run he'll get caught up in his lie. His friends will wanna see him spin but you'll be getting gigs and he won't.
Cole Maroto
11.01.2013
Originally Posted by antifmradio
You guys should be "Internet Friends"
cough cough, knife party, cough
oh dear god that's disturbing. i'm glad he doesn't live in my state anymore...
Libbie Orion
10.01.2013
Originally Posted by squidot
this has kind of happened to me.

i met another dj at my last job about 10 years ago and did several gigs and house parties with him. he landed us a spot at a hookah lounge here in town and invited me to open for him. btw, he would never let me be the closer in spite of me telling him it may be a better idea since i was bringing 100% of the people into the venue. that is not an exaggeration. he had 0 people he knew show up every time and i had about 15-30 that i was pulling in for the few weeks we gigged there. it was a small place so that filled it out pretty nicely. there were also some random folks who just popped in as well.

the first evening there, i was spinning some nice, loungy deep house with occasional world vibes sprinkled throughout. you know, the kind of stuff that was in my comfort zone and makes sense in a hookah lounge. songs you would nod your head to while just hanging out and relaxing. i could tell everyone was digging it and jamming along (outside of the couple odd requests for 50 cent and the doors - yup). a group of people came in on my last song (a mellow 16 bit lolitas deep tune) and they gave me a thumbs up and commented on how they were digging the vibes. unfortunately for them my friend was next up and completely destroyed the mood. his first track mixed in was a hard, hard, trance track that he had the pitch fader waaaaaaay down to beatmatch and then he worked the bpms up over 130 very quickly. everyone just stopped, looked at the stage stunned, saw me packing up my gear, and literally all just left. EVERYONE. he cleared out over 30 people including the ones who just got there and sat down. all my friends waited outside for me and they said they couldn't take the music he played. he still occasionally references that "residency" where he "killed" the place. yeah, well it died for sure...every time he came up after me, everyone would shake their head in disbelief and take off.

it's funny because he is the same dude who will constantly post disparaging remarks on his facebook about how he cant get any gigs because laptop djs are stealing them for bar tabs. he calls us "serato jokers" and believes we all torrent music that we scout from the beatport top 100 chart. he actually believes that people who use anything but vinyl have no talent and are not real djs (yes even cdjs). he believes house music is dead. he believes that it's easier and less expensive to get vinyl pressed than a digital song out there.

HE TRIES TO CHARGE $700/HR - 2 HOUR MINIMUM - WEEKLY SPOT - 3 MONTH CONTRACT FOR HIS GIGS. he trainwrecks a lot of transitions. most of his mixes are dissonant. he sends empty jewel cases to promoters to seem in-demand. he spins only hard dance music, usually of the trance variety. he has never produced a track that's harmonically compatible. then he blames people who use laptops (that all pirate everything) as the sole reason he doesn't get any gigs. i made a small joke about his "artist" rates on my facebook page and he wrote a whole diatribe of ramblings on my page and de-friended me for it.

yup, i've had some good times with this dude.
You guys should be "Internet Friends"
cough cough, knife party, cough
Libbie Orion
10.01.2013
Originally Posted by Nakkanen
be happy in the knowledge that you Killed, all the credit is in the people on the dancefloor having a good time, not some stupid meaningless internet post.
This comment just made me believe of something.
lol
internet posts like that are the same as the panties on paris hilton


here today
gone in 60 seconds
Cole Maroto
10.01.2013
this has kind of happened to me.

i met another dj at my last job about 10 years ago and did several gigs and house parties with him. he landed us a spot at a hookah lounge here in town and invited me to open for him. btw, he would never let me be the closer in spite of me telling him it may be a better idea since i was bringing 100% of the people into the venue. that is not an exaggeration. he had 0 people he knew show up every time and i had about 15-30 that i was pulling in for the few weeks we gigged there. it was a small place so that filled it out pretty nicely. there were also some random folks who just popped in as well.

the first evening there, i was spinning some nice, loungy deep house with occasional world vibes sprinkled throughout. you know, the kind of stuff that was in my comfort zone and makes sense in a hookah lounge. songs you would nod your head to while just hanging out and relaxing. i could tell everyone was digging it and jamming along (outside of the couple odd requests for 50 cent and the doors - yup). a group of people came in on my last song (a mellow 16 bit lolitas deep tune) and they gave me a thumbs up and commented on how they were digging the vibes. unfortunately for them my friend was next up and completely destroyed the mood. his first track mixed in was a hard, hard, trance track that he had the pitch fader waaaaaaay down to beatmatch and then he worked the bpms up over 130 very quickly. everyone just stopped, looked at the stage stunned, saw me packing up my gear, and literally all just left. EVERYONE. he cleared out over 30 people including the ones who just got there and sat down. all my friends waited outside for me and they said they couldn't take the music he played. he still occasionally references that "residency" where he "killed" the place. yeah, well it died for sure...every time he came up after me, everyone would shake their head in disbelief and take off.

it's funny because he is the same dude who will constantly post disparaging remarks on his facebook about how he cant get any gigs because laptop djs are stealing them for bar tabs. he calls us "serato jokers" and believes we all torrent music that we scout from the beatport top 100 chart. he actually believes that people who use anything but vinyl have no talent and are not real djs (yes even cdjs). he believes house music is dead. he believes that it's easier and less expensive to get vinyl pressed than a digital song out there.

HE TRIES TO CHARGE $700/HR - 2 HOUR MINIMUM - WEEKLY SPOT - 3 MONTH CONTRACT FOR HIS GIGS. he trainwrecks a lot of transitions. most of his mixes are dissonant. he sends empty jewel cases to promoters to seem in-demand. he spins only hard dance music, usually of the trance variety. he has never produced a track that's harmonically compatible. then he blames people who use laptops (that all pirate everything) as the sole reason he doesn't get any gigs. i made a small joke about his "artist" rates on my facebook page and he wrote a whole diatribe of ramblings on my page and de-friended me for it.

yup, i've had some good times with this dude.
Valeri Holderness
10.01.2013
Originally Posted by antifmradio
actually this same thing happened to me YEAAAARS ago

Dj boris (big at the time in the North East USA) was supposed to play while i opened one evening in New York.
Cant remember the name of the place for the life of me but hey.... its long over.

Well i opened for a couple hours of dropping beats, then he comes walking in.
This guy actually went to the owner and said "He didnt like the vibe of the evening with the music i was going to leave him off with"
he said this to the owner.
then he says that he is leaving,
came back to the booth
took his stuff
and walked out. Didnt seem pissed, just like, he was not in the mood.

The owner came to me while still playing and begged that i had enough music to cover the rest of the evening .
I did, no problem
he then proceeded to give me an envelope with Boris' pay in it.
I said "I dont know how to reach him"
the owner said that the money was for me.

like im going to say no?

but all the promotions and whatnot, marketing and stuff that came out next day.
editorials,
blogs
news articles bla bla bla

they all spoke of Boris ripping it up in a set that was described as "Rare Form"


ok so what about me? i got no credit for it, and still, i didnt argue it either.


My advice, stick to your guns man.


This is one of those times where is best to say NOTHING at all. Take it while you can get it, and cherish it for now
thats nuts, i'd be ticked
Tomiko Schellenberger
10.01.2013
That sucks, but be happy in the knowledge that you Killed, all the credit is in the people on the dancefloor having a good time, not some stupid meaningless internet post.
Deangelo Boender
10.01.2013
Originally Posted by antifmradio
actually this same thing happened to me YEAAAARS ago
This is one of those times where is best to say NOTHING at all. Take it while you can get it, and cherish it for now
That totally sucks! I knew I wasn't the only person to experience this exact scenario!
Libbie Orion
10.01.2013
actually this same thing happened to me YEAAAARS ago

Dj boris (big at the time in the North East USA) was supposed to play while i opened one evening in New York.
Cant remember the name of the place for the life of me but hey.... its long over.

Well i opened for a couple hours of dropping beats, then he comes walking in.
This guy actually went to the owner and said "He didnt like the vibe of the evening with the music i was going to leave him off with"
he said this to the owner.
then he says that he is leaving,
came back to the booth
took his stuff
and walked out. Didnt seem pissed, just like, he was not in the mood.

The owner came to me while still playing and begged that i had enough music to cover the rest of the evening .
I did, no problem
he then proceeded to give me an envelope with Boris' pay in it.
I said "I dont know how to reach him"
the owner said that the money was for me.

like im going to say no?

but all the promotions and whatnot, marketing and stuff that came out next day.
editorials,
blogs
news articles bla bla bla

they all spoke of Boris ripping it up in a set that was described as "Rare Form"


ok so what about me? i got no credit for it, and still, i didnt argue it either.


My advice, stick to your guns man.


This is one of those times where is best to say NOTHING at all. Take it while you can get it, and cherish it for now
Addie Engbrecht
10.01.2013
Never really had this happen to me. Kid sounds like a nobody anyways, wouldnt even respond
Deangelo Boender
10.01.2013
I didn't bother saying anything to him, I know it would fall on deaf ears, nobody else would care, and it's not worth the bad blood! I'll talk to the promoter, and make sure to keep jimmykins in my back pocket in case we need a half hour opening set lol
Renate Mayeur
10.01.2013
Like Tekki already said; be mature and professional.
It makes you stronger!

Offcourse it's frustrating; but you're the one who 'killed it' that evening and you will be booked again.
Let the guy believe what he wants, he's not getting far with that kind of attitude. You will!
Tashia Mcdunn
10.01.2013
Originally Posted by DJKyleHughes
I wouldn't worry about it, you're the one getting booked again, not him.

Just let him be
exactly this! Anyone giving themselves props for "killing it" is wack anyways...
Random X
10.01.2013
Just make sure you're the one that stays mature and professional about it.

It could also be, that his remark was just something that boggled him for some reason. (Apparently, he left and people had one of _the_ best evening s. )
Lillia Datson
10.01.2013
Ask him how he mixed that ''breakdown'' at a certain part on his playlist. And just call him out straight up.
Noriko Lebowitz
10.01.2013
I wouldn't worry about it, you're the one getting booked again, not him.

Just let him be
Valeri Holderness
10.01.2013
thats definitely frustrating. i wouldn't bother calling him it out, imo its just not worth the trouble. I had a similar situation a little over a year ago. I was playing on a stage with two dj set ups about 15 feet away from each other. started playing my first track and to my horror i heard "clop clop clop". I look across, and the dj who opened for me was playing a hip hop track over my house track. i'm not one to lose my cool ever, but i went over and let him have a piece of my mind. after that he just sat behind the other pair of decks pretending to dj the whole time. I just wanted to play my set so I let him be, what could the damage be right? the next day i heard from my friends that "the two of us made such a great team and that we should dj together more often". he basically did the same thing with facebook as well, didn't stop bragging about how much he "killed it" -_-
Werner Bile
10.01.2013
post a comment asking him when the promoters are booking him next.
Tera Baragan
10.01.2013
Comment on it saying that he only dj'ed for a half hour..? I would be straight up about it.

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