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DJM-800 vs DN-X1700 opinions
Posted on: 14.01.2013 by Orpha Battel
Hey guys!

I currently have a DN-X1500s, and am looking to upgrade. For my price range, I've come up with the DJM-800 and DN-X1700, but I'm having trouble deciding which one I want to replace my current mixer. What are your guys opinions on these two mixers? Here's a rundown (in priority order) of what I'm looking for in a mixer.

1. 4 channels
2. Reliability/overall quality construction
3. Sound quality
4. Effects (effect quality)
5. Digital-ins
6. Loud headphone amp
7. EQ quality

Let me know what you guys believe. Any info is appreciated!

Thanks,
Jaeros
Orpha Battel
19.01.2013
Originally Posted by SirReal
Might I ask why you got rid of it?
Ditto.
Antonetta Wikel
19.01.2013
Originally Posted by djproben
I've used both and prefer the Denon. They are rubberized and a little thinner and taller than the Pioneer knobs. The Pios are aluminum so if you prefer that feel then you will prefer those but personally I much prefer the rubberized Denons. As far as sturdy, I only had the mixer for a few months and took good care of it but they did have a really solid and professional feel to them; I bet they take a beating pretty well.
Might I ask why you got rid of it?
Danae Dumler
19.01.2013
Originally Posted by Jaeros
How are the quality of the knobs compared to the 800? I essentially want a versatile mixer, with high quality construction and sound.
I've used both and prefer the Denon. They are rubberized and a little thinner and taller than the Pioneer knobs. The Pios are aluminum so if you prefer that feel then you will prefer those but personally I much prefer the rubberized Denons. As far as sturdy, I only had the mixer for a few months and took good care of it but they did have a really solid and professional feel to them; I bet they take a beating pretty well.
Kiyoko Wellisch
18.01.2013
Originally Posted by Jaeros
I guess I feel like there's a reason it's considered the "industry standard" but I don't know what that is.
The reason is that people just pick whatever they know people use rather than sitting down and doing the research and working out what is best for them.
Chandra Lean
17.01.2013
Originally Posted by Jaeros
Thanks for the feedback. I'm not too worried about Scratch Certified, since I do not use Traktor (I'm on a pair of CDJs). Any other opinions?

Thanks!
I own a X1700 (bought it new for $900 on Ebay) i have used 900's and 800's and the X1700 by a long shot. you can actual see your fader curve as you adjust it (it shows up on the screen). having two effect engines is awesome (although you can't send the same channel to both). the faders are rediculously smooth, and the pots light up to tell you what type of channel you are running (Digital,Line, USB). there is a filter on the effect engines, and you can use it while not having the main effect affecting the sound.

If you get one Be sure to update it right away, as you get an extra effect (beatscratch).

Overall it is a great mixer really easy to use, essentially the same layout as a DJM 8XX, 900. minus the Color effects.

Feel free to ask any more questions.
Isa Erik
15.01.2013
Originally Posted by Jaeros
Thanks for the response thus far! I understand the X1700 compares more to the 850 or 900, but I'm looking at buying the gear second hand. I've seen the 800 and X1700 for pretty much the same price used (~$800), so I'd figure I go that route. Sounds like the Denon is the overall winner. I've been leaning towards the Denon, too, because of the Matrix input.

Thanks guys, and all opinions are still appreciated.
and don't worry about "not learning on club standard" I feel like it doesn't matter too much when it comes to mixers - basic functions are the same, most of the FX also. DJM mixers are easy to get used to.
Kiyoko Wellisch
19.01.2013		I believe he upgraded to the god tier mixer that is the DB4.

Or I could be getting him confused with someone else. :P
Orpha Battel
19.01.2013
Originally Posted by SirReal
Might I ask why you got rid of it?
Ditto.
Antonetta Wikel
19.01.2013
Originally Posted by djproben
I've used both and prefer the Denon. They are rubberized and a little thinner and taller than the Pioneer knobs. The Pios are aluminum so if you prefer that feel then you will prefer those but personally I much prefer the rubberized Denons. As far as sturdy, I only had the mixer for a few months and took good care of it but they did have a really solid and professional feel to them; I bet they take a beating pretty well.
Might I ask why you got rid of it?
Danae Dumler
19.01.2013
Originally Posted by Jaeros
How are the quality of the knobs compared to the 800? I essentially want a versatile mixer, with high quality construction and sound.
I've used both and prefer the Denon. They are rubberized and a little thinner and taller than the Pioneer knobs. The Pios are aluminum so if you prefer that feel then you will prefer those but personally I much prefer the rubberized Denons. As far as sturdy, I only had the mixer for a few months and took good care of it but they did have a really solid and professional feel to them; I bet they take a beating pretty well.
Chandra Lean
18.01.2013		The pots on the Denon are great they are solid, and they are not loose (twisting wise)

as far as versatility goes, The denon is a lot more versatile. AFAIK what you see on the Pioneer is what you get. Where as the Denon has user customization through the menu (IE change fader curves for different User Profiles n such) you can assign any USb Channel to any mixer channel etc..., There is a vast menu that is easy to use and it has a nice sized full color OLED screen, (not a tiny ass alarm clock looking screen)
Hipolito Scionti
18.01.2013		Or sometimes what's best for people is the same thing everyone uses
Kiyoko Wellisch
18.01.2013
Originally Posted by Jaeros
I guess I feel like there's a reason it's considered the "industry standard" but I don't know what that is.
The reason is that people just pick whatever they know people use rather than sitting down and doing the research and working out what is best for them.
Carlee Pickard
18.01.2013		I got my DJM-850, never used a Denon, and I like it. Costed me $1000.
Orpha Battel
18.01.2013		How are the quality of the knobs compared to the 800? I essentially want a versatile mixer, with high quality construction and sound.

I guess I really want the Denon, but am persuaded to get the Pioneer "industry standard" :/ I guess I feel like there's a reason it's considered the "industry standard" but I don't know what that is.

Thanks!
Chandra Lean
17.01.2013
Originally Posted by Jaeros
Thanks for the feedback. I'm not too worried about Scratch Certified, since I do not use Traktor (I'm on a pair of CDJs). Any other opinions?

Thanks!
I own a X1700 (bought it new for $900 on Ebay) i have used 900's and 800's and the X1700 by a long shot. you can actual see your fader curve as you adjust it (it shows up on the screen). having two effect engines is awesome (although you can't send the same channel to both). the faders are rediculously smooth, and the pots light up to tell you what type of channel you are running (Digital,Line, USB). there is a filter on the effect engines, and you can use it while not having the main effect affecting the sound.

If you get one Be sure to update it right away, as you get an extra effect (beatscratch).

Overall it is a great mixer really easy to use, essentially the same layout as a DJM 8XX, 900. minus the Color effects.

Feel free to ask any more questions.
Orpha Battel
16.01.2013		Thanks for the feedback. I'm not too worried about Scratch Certified, since I do not use Traktor (I'm on a pair of CDJs). Any other opinions?

Thanks!
Hipolito Scionti
16.01.2013		Scratch certified is a bonus no doubt
Leota Dolney
15.01.2013		Hard to really go wrong with either mixer. I have a 1700 and love it. Matrix input is great...the Midi mapping capabilities of the controls is nice if you need it, and it is scratch certified.
Hipolito Scionti
15.01.2013		Id still say the pio over the denon... horses for courses though.

Here's EZ using a DJM 800 and this is recent. I do know plenty of big names who still swear by the DJM800



Not saying the denon is bad, am sure it's great. People hate on pio cause they are industry standard but i really like em, believe they are industry standard for a reason.

What ever though dude, either mixer is obvs fine

I wish id never sold my DJM800
Kiyoko Wellisch
15.01.2013		And the layout on the Denon is pretty much identical the Pioneer
Isa Erik
15.01.2013
Originally Posted by Jaeros
Thanks for the response thus far! I understand the X1700 compares more to the 850 or 900, but I'm looking at buying the gear second hand. I've seen the 800 and X1700 for pretty much the same price used (~$800), so I'd figure I go that route. Sounds like the Denon is the overall winner. I've been leaning towards the Denon, too, because of the Matrix input.

Thanks guys, and all opinions are still appreciated.
and don't worry about "not learning on club standard" I feel like it doesn't matter too much when it comes to mixers - basic functions are the same, most of the FX also. DJM mixers are easy to get used to.
Orpha Battel
15.01.2013		Thanks for the response thus far! I understand the X1700 compares more to the 850 or 900, but I'm looking at buying the gear second hand. I've seen the 800 and X1700 for pretty much the same price used (~$800), so I'd figure I go that route. Sounds like the Denon is the overall winner. I've been leaning towards the Denon, too, because of the Matrix input.

Thanks guys, and all opinions are still appreciated.
Tesha Freudenstein
15.01.2013
Originally Posted by Jester
X1700 by a long shot. The DJM is an ok mixer but its over 10 years old and discontinued as far as i know. You'll get a lot more for a lot less with the Denon.
actually it's 7 years old it's still a viable solution alright, but still: denon by a long shot on this one.

EDIT: just saw your earlier post where you corrected yourself.
Danae Dumler
15.01.2013
Originally Posted by MaxOne
Djm 800 is still found in many many clubs though. Justsayin
True but the 1700 isn't laid out much differently than the 800; it would be pretty easy to use the 800 (or whatever else) even if you had the 1700 at home.
Hipolito Scionti
15.01.2013		Djm 800 is still found in many many clubs though. Justsayin

The djm850 looks decent though if you're spending that money then the djm900 is worth a look too.

I'm contemplating a djm250 just for serious no frills mixing

Cheap as chips but build quality and features though limited look super solid
Kristofer Krauel
15.01.2013		WOW! Literally seems like it came out no more than a couple of years ago! I really liked that mixer.
Latoria Kavulich
15.01.2013		Last year yup. Not as old as i thought tho, they came out 2006
Kristofer Krauel
15.01.2013		Djm800 is over 10years old and discontinued?
Isa Erik
15.01.2013
Originally Posted by djproben
Yeah there is really no contest here; you're better off comparing the Pioneer DJM-900 to be on the same level (and even then I believe the Denon wins). The Denon is a far better unit by any possible measure. It's also Traktor Scratch certified if that's a benefit for you. The only complaint I had about it (I owned it for about 6 months) is that the headphone amp, while plenty loud, has noticeably poorer sound quality than the mixer's regular outputs. But it's fully functional for DJing, and as long as you don't expect to sit and listen critically to music in a quiet environment through the headphone jack, this mixer is amazing. I like the effects better than pioneer's too; they're not as heavy handed and you can be much more subtle and flexible with them. Whereas Pioneer effects are quicker to master (and to abuse), the Denon's are quite a bit more flexible.
nicely said
Danae Dumler
15.01.2013		Yeah there is really no contest here; you're better off comparing the Pioneer DJM-900 to be on the same level (and even then I believe the Denon wins). The Denon is a far better unit by any possible measure. It's also Traktor Scratch certified if that's a benefit for you. The only complaint I had about it (I owned it for about 6 months) is that the headphone amp, while plenty loud, has noticeably poorer sound quality than the mixer's regular outputs. But it's fully functional for DJing, and as long as you don't expect to sit and listen critically to music in a quiet environment through the headphone jack, this mixer is amazing. I like the effects better than pioneer's too; they're not as heavy handed and you can be much more subtle and flexible with them. Whereas Pioneer effects are quicker to master (and to abuse), the Denon's are quite a bit more flexible.
Latoria Kavulich
15.01.2013		X1700 by a long shot. The DJM is an ok mixer but its over 10 years old and discontinued as far as i know. You'll get a lot more for a lot less with the Denon.

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