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1 song per CD Vs 2 songs per CD Posted on: 12.01.2012 by Tiara Bastarache Question for a the CDJ owners out there that still use or have used actual CD's. Did You burn one song per CD or two songs per CD? Weighing the pro's and con's right now and the one problem that keeps on poping up is what happens if you want to mix a couple of songs that are on the same CD. I'm sure this could be solved with great orginization, but for the sake of conversation I'm seeking input.
Dorie Scelzo 17.01.2012	Originally Posted by Johnv I ended up doing 1 per CD, couldn't fit multiple song titles and different information on a single CD with designs. So far i'm loving it. Works a lot just like Album are with vinyl. Here's a example of what I did: More logic then you'd even consider spending time looking into apparently. The human mind works with image/word/color association. Plenty of studies have been done on it. @Mostapha, great guess. You knew exactly what I was going for. Those CDs are gorgeous. I wouldn't use CDs anymore, I don't believe, compared to either a laptop or USB keys, but if I did, I'd buy a lightscribe burner before the CDJs
Dorie Scelzo 17.01.2012	Originally Posted by Johnv I ended up doing 1 per CD, couldn't fit multiple song titles and different information on a single CD with designs. So far i'm loving it. Works a lot just like Album are with vinyl. Here's a example of what I did: More logic then you'd even consider spending time looking into apparently. The human mind works with image/word/color association. Plenty of studies have been done on it. @Mostapha, great guess. You knew exactly what I was going for. Those CDs are gorgeous. I wouldn't use CDs anymore, I don't believe, compared to either a laptop or USB keys, but if I did, I'd buy a lightscribe burner before the CDJs
Dorie Scelzo 17.01.2012	Originally Posted by Johnv I ended up doing 1 per CD, couldn't fit multiple song titles and different information on a single CD with designs. So far i'm loving it. Works a lot just like Album are with vinyl. Here's a example of what I did: More logic then you'd even consider spending time looking into apparently. The human mind works with image/word/color association. Plenty of studies have been done on it. @Mostapha, great guess. You knew exactly what I was going for. Those CDs are gorgeous. I wouldn't use CDs anymore, I don't believe, compared to either a laptop or USB keys, but if I did, I'd buy a lightscribe burner before the CDJs
Tiara Bastarache 17.01.2012	Originally Posted by DJAdamDaniel in case anyone's interested here's my method... 2 copies of cd with 8-12 tracks on and a printed label with room for bpm, cue and can fit other info if needed. it's a small font but as it's printed it's easier to read than hand writing. Looks good man. The only problem I'd have is that I have horrible vision, so the small print wouldn't fly too well with me.
Dorie Scelzo 17.01.2012	Originally Posted by Johnv I ended up doing 1 per CD, couldn't fit multiple song titles and different information on a single CD with designs. So far i'm loving it. Works a lot just like Album are with vinyl. Here's a example of what I did: More logic then you'd even consider spending time looking into apparently. The human mind works with image/word/color association. Plenty of studies have been done on it. @Mostapha, great guess. You knew exactly what I was going for. Those CDs are gorgeous. I wouldn't use CDs anymore, I don't believe, compared to either a laptop or USB keys, but if I did, I'd buy a lightscribe burner before the CDJs
Mimi Mahaffee 16.01.2012	Originally Posted by kooper1980 why only 1 or 2 tracks per cd? what benefit (if any) does this give you? Or looking at it from another angle what disadvantage does it give you filling the cd with tracks? If using with cdj 1000 u can have 3 hot cues per cd, so if u got 1 cd with 1 tracks, you can have 3 hot cues in the track. If you got 1 cd with 3 tracks, you can have 1 hot cue per track.
Osvaldo Newhall 16.01.2012	Originally Posted by Johnv More logic then you'd even consider spending time looking into apparently. The human mind works with image/word/color association. Plenty of studies have been done on it. No because when I was still using CDs and vinyl, I exactly knew where to locate the specific songs I needed to play or the next song that comes to my mind. Each disc had about 10 tracks and well arranged. The human mind works best not through vision only but by it's memory. I still believe that your 1 song per CD method is pointless and for the weak minded.
Tiara Bastarache 15.01.2012	I ended up doing 1 per CD, couldn't fit multiple song titles and different information on a single CD with designs. So far i'm loving it. Works a lot just like Album are with vinyl. Here's a example of what I did: Originally Posted by Nicadraus Sorry but burning 1 or 2 tracks on a single disc is... stupid, waste of money and pointless. No logic at all. More logic then you'd even consider spending time looking into apparently. The human mind works with image/word/color association. Plenty of studies have been done on it. @Mostapha, great guess. You knew exactly what I was going for.
Chong Prestwich 15.01.2012	Originally Posted by kelsey7k i used to do 10+ tracks to cd and make two copies of each cd (i sure don't miss the days of all that cdr burning...) this!!! doesnt waste and cd space and you can still play the same 2 songs / have spare copy incase of scratches
Clifton Schneweis 13.01.2012	Originally Posted by Johnv My presumption was 1/2 tracks for quicker digging. I'll have all the info I need right on the front of the cd. but you are going to have to write the cd's and tracks on paper to keep your cd wallet in order anyway. otherwise you will end up with a load of cd's all jumbled up with your handwriting all over them. My handwriting sucks so that does make it worse when i used to leave cd's out - which i used to do all the time at gig's. Also more tracks means you don't have to change the cd and the track loads quicker. i wouldn't recommend using mp3 cd's either - seems to sound sucky and be far to many tracks. but it's really up to the individual
Dorie Scelzo 12.01.2012	Originally Posted by Johnv I'll be using lightscribe so and I have a pretty good idea as to how I'll be organizing the library. Life would have been a lot easier if I'd have a lightscribe drive the first time around. Originally Posted by kooper1980 why only 1 or 2 tracks per cd? what benefit (if any) does this give you? Or looking at it from another angle what disadvantage does it give you filling the cd with tracks? Organization. How many tracks do you really need for a evening ? 96-CD wallets aren't that thick/heavy and easily fit in a record bag. If you have a visual memory (like I do) then you start to associate the shape of the writing on the CD with the music. It's not a record sleeve, but it's remarkably close for being so hackneyed. And CDRs are cheap
Luke Loughin 18.01.2012	If I have my set roughly planned out, I'll burn my set in order, then duplicate each CD. I also might make another CD with 'bonus tracks', tracks that I might like to throw in but aren't necessarily part of the set.
Tiara Bastarache 17.01.2012	Originally Posted by DJAdamDaniel in case anyone's interested here's my method... 2 copies of cd with 8-12 tracks on and a printed label with room for bpm, cue and can fit other info if needed. it's a small font but as it's printed it's easier to read than hand writing. Looks good man. The only problem I'd have is that I have horrible vision, so the small print wouldn't fly too well with me.
Dorie Scelzo 17.01.2012	Originally Posted by Johnv I ended up doing 1 per CD, couldn't fit multiple song titles and different information on a single CD with designs. So far i'm loving it. Works a lot just like Album are with vinyl. Here's a example of what I did: More logic then you'd even consider spending time looking into apparently. The human mind works with image/word/color association. Plenty of studies have been done on it. @Mostapha, great guess. You knew exactly what I was going for. Those CDs are gorgeous. I wouldn't use CDs anymore, I don't believe, compared to either a laptop or USB keys, but if I did, I'd buy a lightscribe burner before the CDJs
Chong Prestwich 17.01.2012	in case anyone's interested here's my method... 2 copies of cd with 8-12 tracks on and a printed label with room for bpm, cue and can fit other info if needed. it's a small font but as it's printed it's easier to read than hand writing.
Mimi Mahaffee 16.01.2012	Originally Posted by kooper1980 why only 1 or 2 tracks per cd? what benefit (if any) does this give you? Or looking at it from another angle what disadvantage does it give you filling the cd with tracks? If using with cdj 1000 u can have 3 hot cues per cd, so if u got 1 cd with 1 tracks, you can have 3 hot cues in the track. If you got 1 cd with 3 tracks, you can have 1 hot cue per track.
Audrey Pinda 16.01.2012	If I ever went to CD's, and I've thought about it, I'd do the 1 track per CD method. I have a printer and such to label any CD's I want to burn. I actually bought the contraption because before I fell into the deal on my 1200's, I was planning on picking up a pair of CDJ-400's. So I had started a little prep with my CD's, of which really isn't useful to me at this point. But for me, having a bit of artwork and just one track per CD makes sense. Yeah, you actually might have to switch the CD's more often. But you know exactly what is going to be ready, and you probably won't need more than a single CD wallet for a set... even with that. And you can always have a couple CD's really filled up for the "just in case" times where you might need to go longer. But alas, I also scratch CD's like it's my job. I'll finish up a mix, burn it to CD, bring it to my car, and it will be scratched. So, I'm not all too worried about using CDJ's at this point because I fail at CD's lol.
Osvaldo Newhall 16.01.2012	Originally Posted by Johnv More logic then you'd even consider spending time looking into apparently. The human mind works with image/word/color association. Plenty of studies have been done on it. No because when I was still using CDs and vinyl, I exactly knew where to locate the specific songs I needed to play or the next song that comes to my mind. Each disc had about 10 tracks and well arranged. The human mind works best not through vision only but by it's memory. I still believe that your 1 song per CD method is pointless and for the weak minded.
Tiara Bastarache 15.01.2012	I ended up doing 1 per CD, couldn't fit multiple song titles and different information on a single CD with designs. So far i'm loving it. Works a lot just like Album are with vinyl. Here's a example of what I did: Originally Posted by Nicadraus Sorry but burning 1 or 2 tracks on a single disc is... stupid, waste of money and pointless. No logic at all. More logic then you'd even consider spending time looking into apparently. The human mind works with image/word/color association. Plenty of studies have been done on it. @Mostapha, great guess. You knew exactly what I was going for.
Alla Bluemke 15.01.2012	I also do full CDs. I write a title to the CDs like house nye 2012. Then I put the date on the cd. Afterwards I print out a track listing with exact same title and put the listing in my wallet.
Chong Prestwich 15.01.2012	Originally Posted by kelsey7k i used to do 10+ tracks to cd and make two copies of each cd (i sure don't miss the days of all that cdr burning...) this!!! doesnt waste and cd space and you can still play the same 2 songs / have spare copy incase of scratches
Delila Vandommelen 15.01.2012	Do it like DJ Sneak does
Osvaldo Newhall 14.01.2012	Sorry but burning 1 or 2 tracks on a single disc is... stupid, waste of money and pointless. No logic at all.
Fred Offill 14.01.2012	When i use to play with cdj's , i burned 1 track per cd for a few reason . 1- You can separate them by genre more easily (not that you can't otherwise , but it can help) 2- Less is more (in my opinion) . You won't be distracted by sheets of paper with 10-15 tracks on them . You'll only have what you really need , once the track is outdated or not needed anymore , you leave it in storage . 3- You can change the way you organize your cd wallet at anytime . One day you might want to sort it by artist , next time by bpm , key...
Marilee Drinnen 13.01.2012	If I have a lot of tunes by an artist, I just burn all the tracks of theirs that I know I'm going to play on one or two CDs. For others, I normally put 8-9 tunes on a CD.
Clifton Schneweis 13.01.2012	Originally Posted by Johnv My presumption was 1/2 tracks for quicker digging. I'll have all the info I need right on the front of the cd. but you are going to have to write the cd's and tracks on paper to keep your cd wallet in order anyway. otherwise you will end up with a load of cd's all jumbled up with your handwriting all over them. My handwriting sucks so that does make it worse when i used to leave cd's out - which i used to do all the time at gig's. Also more tracks means you don't have to change the cd and the track loads quicker. i wouldn't recommend using mp3 cd's either - seems to sound sucky and be far to many tracks. but it's really up to the individual
Jonathan Chiuchiolo 13.01.2012	I used to use two tracks on each cd, bought a cd printer, and used a stencil image on every cd, kind of like a record cover, I too like the images for quicker browsing. eg.
Terese Bachorski 13.01.2012	I fill up discs and make safety copies of each, plus 3 storage backups. I memorize the list. Exactly like I used to memorize what I had on vinyl. It's not that hard and jogs your memory instead of being computer assisted.
Latoria Ericsson 13.01.2012	I use 1 song per cd but that's because I write everything down on it including the key, bpm, artist etc. (I'm really anal about my organization) and it's a lot of work but it helps me keep my cd wallet really organized and I can find the song instantly by using the program I get the songs analyzed from which is beaTunes.
Dorie Scelzo 12.01.2012	Originally Posted by Johnv I'll be using lightscribe so and I have a pretty good idea as to how I'll be organizing the library. Life would have been a lot easier if I'd have a lightscribe drive the first time around. Originally Posted by kooper1980 why only 1 or 2 tracks per cd? what benefit (if any) does this give you? Or looking at it from another angle what disadvantage does it give you filling the cd with tracks? Organization. How many tracks do you really need for a evening ? 96-CD wallets aren't that thick/heavy and easily fit in a record bag. If you have a visual memory (like I do) then you start to associate the shape of the writing on the CD with the music. It's not a record sleeve, but it's remarkably close for being so hackneyed. And CDRs are cheap
Tiara Bastarache 12.01.2012	My presumption was 1/2 tracks for quicker digging. I'll have all the info I need right on the front of the cd.
Glynis Mangona 12.01.2012	i used to do 10+ tracks to cd and make two copies of each cd (i sure don't miss the days of all that cdr burning...)
Kristofer Krauel 12.01.2012	why only 1 or 2 tracks per cd? what benefit (if any) does this give you? Or looking at it from another angle what disadvantage does it give you filling the cd with tracks?
Dana Ordinario 12.01.2012	I usually burn about 8 tracks a disk. I will sometimes duplicate tracks on multiple disks if I know I use it a lot just in case I want to play 2 songs that are on the same CD. That's when I use CDs also which isn't very often anymore.
Palma Hanslip 12.01.2012	I use MP3 CD's so have around 40 songs per CD. I write on the CD the type of music (House, Commercial, Club, Techno etc), the estimated time for that type of music (Start of evening , Warm Up, Mid Set, Main Set, Classics, Test Tracks), Month. I usually make a duplicate and i work between the two.. Next month i will do the same and so on. Two weeks later i will make another MP3 CD with numerous 'New' tracks full of various stuff. The CDJ issue doesn't bother me as i only use CDJ 1000's/2000's.
Tiara Bastarache 12.01.2012	Originally Posted by DJDoubleYou use a hard drive? This is exactly what I'm trying not to do. Just sold most of the DVS gear .
Era Roka 12.01.2012	use a hard drive?
Lynell Piechocinski 12.01.2012	I was burning 6-8 tracks per CD. Depended on lenght of track. I just don't see a point of burning 1 or 2 tracks per CD, becouse when i have 80tracks on 10 cd's for a gig, you have 40 cd's... With my method, I saved more time on writing cd's, saved time for browsing collection, saved space in cd bag, saved money for new cd's or tracks.
Tiara Bastarache 12.01.2012	Couple of good ideas there. I may just end up burning two songs per disc and then duplicate that disk. I'll be using lightscribe so and I have a pretty good idea as to how I'll be organizing the library.
Lora Vandewark 12.01.2012	I used to burn lots of tracks to a single CD (sometimes up to 150 if I was using MP3 compatible CDJ's) and quite often burn two identical CD's. This not only eliminated the problem of wanting to mix tracks from the same CD, it also served as a handy backup if one CD got scratched or broken, as you always had a backup to play / copy again. However, if you are going to burn lots of tracks per CD, make sure you have a good idea of what tracks are on it, as CDJ's often have no Traktor-esque search feature! If I knew I was playing a specific set for a gig, I used to work out a set-list prior to the evening and burn the tracks alternately over two discs. (e.g. tracks 1,3,5,7,9... on disc 1 and tracks 2,4,6,8,10... on disc 2). This means you don't have to mess about changing CD's and the next song is just a button away. It goes without saying though that this method is useless if your not using a pre-planned set. If your only burning one or two tracks per CD, you will be burn a fair few discs per set!

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