External HD that will stand the test of time?? Hey everyone I'm looking to buy an external 1TB / 2TB HDD. The use would be for my MBP time capsules and my music library mainly. This would be left at home out of harms way, so powered is cool with me too. I'm believeing I could utilize the firewire port instead of USB on my MBP because both of the existing USB ports are bieng used by my S4 and MF3D, and I've had some trouble with my USB hub :X........
Any suggestions anyone?? I know its just a HD but mine ALWAYS seem to break, glitch, catch fire (wait what?!) within 1 year or so of purchase.. |
Vada Branyon
02.02.2013 |
Originally Posted by deevey
I believe you missed the whole idea of an EXTERNAL USB raid Enclosure which would mean you have 3 mirrored copies of your data - 2 of which would be on the same external enclosure and one on your computer.
1. Your Computer drive
2. Your External Drive set up as Raid1
I agree that an Internal raid is NOT a backup, nor is a RAID0 in any form. External USB RAID1 setups are a different breed altogether.
I know what you mean, but the bigger the hdd is the more demanding the task of the chipset on that external hdd are going to be, especially when you are rebuilding one hdd to another.
The chipsets in consumer grade raid enclosures aren't that great. Most of these are not interchangeable, so you need to get the same type of chipset, if the chipset would die ( this happens more then you would believe).
If your chipset fails you just reduced your 3 data copies to one. The changes of 1 raid1 setup failing vs 2 copies of the same data are bigger.
A regular user really is better of just buying separate hdd's and making more backups. It also keeps things simple... If the OP needs to ask this kind of question, then don't bother him with raid.
When you can buy 4tb hdd's and 512g ssds... There really isn't any use for a regular user for raid. There are uses, but this is not one of them. |
Arielle Posso
01.02.2013 |
Originally Posted by deevey
I believe you missed the whole idea of an EXTERNAL USB raid Enclosure which would mean you have 3 mirrored copies of your data - 2 of which would be on the same external enclosure and one on your computer.
1. Your Computer drive
2. Your External Drive set up as Raid1
I agree that an Internal raid is NOT a backup, nor is a RAID0 in any form. External USB RAID1 setups are a different breed altogether.
I agree. Raid is great as a main drive set up because its fast but its terrible for back up because all your data is spread between multiple drives so if one should fail you loose all you data. |
Federico Vilas
31.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by DJ_JCohh
Thanks again everyone. I ended up going with a LaCie 1TB external.
I've had my Lacie since 2007 - 500GB and only thing that went bad was power adapter one time. replaced it and it has worked great going on 6 years. creating a backup on an external hard-drive that you can boot from is a must...just in case you laptop hard-drive tanks on you. |
Vada Branyon
31.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by deevey
You mean RAID1 surely - Mirrored for a 1:1 backup.
RAID on its own internally for sure is not a backup (which should be kept externally) however backing up to an 2 disc External Raid1 array like the buffalo I mentioned above would create 2 copies of your backup data in a single external enclosure. In the even that one of your backup discs fail you will still have the second healthy backup drive and would not need to run a backup twice to still have a redundant copy.
I know how raid works... It's not a backup and you shouldn't advice it to the op.
Google "raid is not a backup".
To get you started
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/nas/n...-is-not-backup |
Klara Kinnebrew
28.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by deevey
You mean RAID1 surely - Mirrored for a 1:1 backup.
RAID on its own internally for sure is not a backup (which should be kept externally) however backing up to an 2 disc External Raid1 array like the buffalo I mentioned above would create 2 copies of your backup data in a single external enclosure. In the even that one of your backup discs fail you will still have the second healthy backup drive and would not need to run a backup twice to still have a redundant copy.
Woops! Typo! Feel like an idiot considering I have an IT degree. Good catch sir. |
Rolanda Clodfelder
28.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by William Gibson
RAID is definatley bakup as long as it is RAID 2... all raid incorporates 2 or more disks
You mean RAID1 surely - Mirrored for a 1:1 backup.
Raid is not backup...
The 2 disks idea is better!
RAID on its own internally for sure is not a backup (which should be kept externally) however backing up to an 2 disc External Raid1 array like the buffalo I mentioned above would create 2 copies of your backup data in a single external enclosure. In the even that one of your backup discs fail you will still have the second healthy backup drive and would not need to run a backup twice to still have a redundant copy. |
Klara Kinnebrew
28.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by Jay Melis
Raid is not backup...
The 2 disks idea is better!
RAID is definatley bakup as long as it is RAID 2... all raid incorporates 2 or more disks |
Rolanda Clodfelder
25.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by DJ_JCohh
I've always felt like that, good to know I'm not the only one believeing that!! I believe I'm going to go with the buying two route. Thanks all.
Or a RAID1 Enclosure ? No Point in doing things twice if you don't need to - right ?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...npage:IN+STOCK |
Rhona Dessler
24.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by Patch
No such thing. There are ALWAYS bad units no matter how much you spend.
Get TWO half decent ones, and use one for regular back-ups (I back up once a week, or when I add a large number of new tunes to my library). A lot of us here have learned that the hard way.
You should learn it the easy way.
I've always felt like that, good to know I'm not the only one believeing that!! I believe I'm going to go with the buying two route. Thanks all. |
Rhona Dessler
23.01.2013 | Hey everyone I'm looking to buy an external 1TB / 2TB HDD. The use would be for my MBP time capsules and my music library mainly. This would be left at home out of harms way, so powered is cool with me too. I'm believeing I could utilize the firewire port instead of USB on my MBP because both of the existing USB ports are bieng used by my S4 and MF3D, and I've had some trouble with my USB hub :X........
Any suggestions anyone?? I know its just a HD but mine ALWAYS seem to break, glitch, catch fire (wait what?!) within 1 year or so of purchase.. |
Vada Branyon
02.02.2013 |
Originally Posted by deevey
I believe you missed the whole idea of an EXTERNAL USB raid Enclosure which would mean you have 3 mirrored copies of your data - 2 of which would be on the same external enclosure and one on your computer.
1. Your Computer drive
2. Your External Drive set up as Raid1
I agree that an Internal raid is NOT a backup, nor is a RAID0 in any form. External USB RAID1 setups are a different breed altogether.
I know what you mean, but the bigger the hdd is the more demanding the task of the chipset on that external hdd are going to be, especially when you are rebuilding one hdd to another.
The chipsets in consumer grade raid enclosures aren't that great. Most of these are not interchangeable, so you need to get the same type of chipset, if the chipset would die ( this happens more then you would believe).
If your chipset fails you just reduced your 3 data copies to one. The changes of 1 raid1 setup failing vs 2 copies of the same data are bigger.
A regular user really is better of just buying separate hdd's and making more backups. It also keeps things simple... If the OP needs to ask this kind of question, then don't bother him with raid.
When you can buy 4tb hdd's and 512g ssds... There really isn't any use for a regular user for raid. There are uses, but this is not one of them. |
Arielle Posso
01.02.2013 |
Originally Posted by deevey
I believe you missed the whole idea of an EXTERNAL USB raid Enclosure which would mean you have 3 mirrored copies of your data - 2 of which would be on the same external enclosure and one on your computer.
1. Your Computer drive
2. Your External Drive set up as Raid1
I agree that an Internal raid is NOT a backup, nor is a RAID0 in any form. External USB RAID1 setups are a different breed altogether.
I agree. Raid is great as a main drive set up because its fast but its terrible for back up because all your data is spread between multiple drives so if one should fail you loose all you data. |
Rolanda Clodfelder
31.01.2013 |
I know how raid works... It's not a backup and you shouldn't advice it to the op.
Google "raid is not a backup".
I believe you missed the whole idea of an EXTERNAL USB raid Enclosure which would mean you have 3 mirrored copies of your data - 2 of which would be on the same external enclosure and one on your computer.
1. Your Computer drive
2. Your External Drive set up as Raid1
I agree that an Internal raid is NOT a backup, nor is a RAID0 in any form. External USB RAID1 setups are a different breed altogether. |
Federico Vilas
31.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by DJ_JCohh
Thanks again everyone. I ended up going with a LaCie 1TB external.
I've had my Lacie since 2007 - 500GB and only thing that went bad was power adapter one time. replaced it and it has worked great going on 6 years. creating a backup on an external hard-drive that you can boot from is a must...just in case you laptop hard-drive tanks on you. |
Vada Branyon
31.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by deevey
You mean RAID1 surely - Mirrored for a 1:1 backup.
RAID on its own internally for sure is not a backup (which should be kept externally) however backing up to an 2 disc External Raid1 array like the buffalo I mentioned above would create 2 copies of your backup data in a single external enclosure. In the even that one of your backup discs fail you will still have the second healthy backup drive and would not need to run a backup twice to still have a redundant copy.
I know how raid works... It's not a backup and you shouldn't advice it to the op.
Google "raid is not a backup".
To get you started
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/nas/n...-is-not-backup |
Rhona Dessler
30.01.2013 | Thanks again everyone. I ended up going with a LaCie 1TB external. |
Klara Kinnebrew
28.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by deevey
You mean RAID1 surely - Mirrored for a 1:1 backup.
RAID on its own internally for sure is not a backup (which should be kept externally) however backing up to an 2 disc External Raid1 array like the buffalo I mentioned above would create 2 copies of your backup data in a single external enclosure. In the even that one of your backup discs fail you will still have the second healthy backup drive and would not need to run a backup twice to still have a redundant copy.
Woops! Typo! Feel like an idiot considering I have an IT degree. Good catch sir. |
Rolanda Clodfelder
28.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by William Gibson
RAID is definatley bakup as long as it is RAID 2... all raid incorporates 2 or more disks
You mean RAID1 surely - Mirrored for a 1:1 backup.
Raid is not backup...
The 2 disks idea is better!
RAID on its own internally for sure is not a backup (which should be kept externally) however backing up to an 2 disc External Raid1 array like the buffalo I mentioned above would create 2 copies of your backup data in a single external enclosure. In the even that one of your backup discs fail you will still have the second healthy backup drive and would not need to run a backup twice to still have a redundant copy. |
Klara Kinnebrew
28.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by Jay Melis
Raid is not backup...
The 2 disks idea is better!
RAID is definatley bakup as long as it is RAID 2... all raid incorporates 2 or more disks |
Vada Branyon
28.01.2013 | Raid is not backup...
The 2 disks idea is better! |
Rolanda Clodfelder
25.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by DJ_JCohh
I've always felt like that, good to know I'm not the only one believeing that!! I believe I'm going to go with the buying two route. Thanks all.
Or a RAID1 Enclosure ? No Point in doing things twice if you don't need to - right ?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...npage:IN+STOCK |
Rhona Dessler
24.01.2013 |
Originally Posted by Patch
No such thing. There are ALWAYS bad units no matter how much you spend.
Get TWO half decent ones, and use one for regular back-ups (I back up once a week, or when I add a large number of new tunes to my library). A lot of us here have learned that the hard way.
You should learn it the easy way.
I've always felt like that, good to know I'm not the only one believeing that!! I believe I'm going to go with the buying two route. Thanks all. |
Brunilda Kora
24.01.2013 | No such thing. There are ALWAYS bad units no matter how much you spend.
Get TWO half decent ones, and use one for regular back-ups (I back up once a week, or when I add a large number of new tunes to my library). A lot of us here have learned that the hard way.
You should learn it the easy way. |
Rolanda Clodfelder
24.01.2013 |
I will say that go for western digital external they will for sure stand the test of time always.
Tell that to the dead 320 gig WD external I have sitting on my desk right now |
Janene Kalakay
24.01.2013 | I will say that go for western digital external they will for sure stand the test of time always. |
Klara Kinnebrew
23.01.2013 | Owc mercury elite.
/end thread |
