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Posted on: 04.02.2013 by Nikki Mcpeek
i'm not completely satisfied with the sound that my mp3 conversions are coming out. they don't sound good enough.

this is what i've been using:

1. audacity
2. shure whitelabel stylus
3. my audiocard > asus xonar dg [ http://www.asus.com/Sound_Cards_and_...ters/Xonar_DG/ ]

after i record vinyl to mp3, i always pump the gain to 7+ on audacity because that is the volume that matches the volume of an mp3 from beatport. i don't do anything else on audacity. i don't really hear clicks so i dont rly fuck with the clickremovable feature and plus my vinyls are new.

if i was to guess what i can upgrade, i would say getting expensive stylus just for conversion.

thanks in advance for the help i'm going to need.
Qiana Castellucci
26.03.2013
Originally Posted by cutflow
what pre-amp do you guys recommend for converting vinyl to mp3. that is less than $200 USD or is that too low of a budget?
Search for "Rega Fono Mini A2D USB Phono Stage"
Qiana Castellucci
26.03.2013
Originally Posted by cutflow
what pre-amp do you guys recommend for converting vinyl to mp3. that is less than $200 USD or is that too low of a budget?
Search for "Rega Fono Mini A2D USB Phono Stage"
Qiana Castellucci
26.03.2013
Originally Posted by cutflow
what pre-amp do you guys recommend for converting vinyl to mp3. that is less than $200 USD or is that too low of a budget?
Search for "Rega Fono Mini A2D USB Phono Stage"
Qiana Castellucci
26.03.2013
Originally Posted by cutflow
what pre-amp do you guys recommend for converting vinyl to mp3. that is less than $200 USD or is that too low of a budget?
Search for "Rega Fono Mini A2D USB Phono Stage"
Qiana Castellucci
26.03.2013
Originally Posted by cutflow
what pre-amp do you guys recommend for converting vinyl to mp3. that is less than $200 USD or is that too low of a budget?
Search for "Rega Fono Mini A2D USB Phono Stage"
Qiana Castellucci
26.03.2013
Originally Posted by cutflow
what pre-amp do you guys recommend for converting vinyl to mp3. that is less than $200 USD or is that too low of a budget?
Search for "Rega Fono Mini A2D USB Phono Stage"
Qiana Castellucci
26.03.2013
Originally Posted by cutflow
what pre-amp do you guys recommend for converting vinyl to mp3. that is less than $200 USD or is that too low of a budget?
Search for "Rega Fono Mini A2D USB Phono Stage"
Qiana Castellucci
26.03.2013
Originally Posted by cutflow
what pre-amp do you guys recommend for converting vinyl to mp3. that is less than $200 USD or is that too low of a budget?
Search for "Rega Fono Mini A2D USB Phono Stage"
Qiana Castellucci
26.03.2013
Originally Posted by cutflow
what pre-amp do you guys recommend for converting vinyl to mp3. that is less than $200 USD or is that too low of a budget?
Search for "Rega Fono Mini A2D USB Phono Stage"
Qiana Castellucci
26.03.2013
Originally Posted by cutflow
what pre-amp do you guys recommend for converting vinyl to mp3. that is less than $200 USD or is that too low of a budget?
Search for "Rega Fono Mini A2D USB Phono Stage"
Delila Vandommelen
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by maxwelldub
convert to wav/aiff/flac instead. your ears will thank you
No, save as wav/aiff/flac along with the whole process. Not just instead of it all. Since using lossless has been standard to me for over 6 years, I guess I forgot to mention that
Carlton Saracina
05.02.2013
Originally Posted by bumtsch
Going through the mixer colors the sound and since the 350 is digital, that's two extra conversions you're going through (AD + DA), altering the sound further - you'd get an improvement by doing TT -> audio interface with a preamp.
Don't record too hot a signal, adjust your input gain to make sure the input stage isn't getting overloaded then add gain back in software.
I tried using Audacity's click removal, IMO you've made a good choice by avoiding it altogether.

What sample rate are you recording at ? It's possible ripping at 96k then resampling to 44.1 (or now, 48k) with a proper program might yield better results than just ripping straight to 44.1k, it made a noticeable difference for me.
Finally I find there is a slight loss of clarity in the top end (even before resampling) so I usually give a gentle boost to frequencies above 15k or so.

You could get an archival or hi-fi needle for ripping, but frankly since this is getting played at gigs I'd rather have my rips sound as if I were playing the real vinyl with my club needles - and the Whitelabel is supposedly very good at that. A hi-fi cart would take even further fiddling with the EQ to get it to sound livelier.

My 2c
convert to wav/aiff/flac instead. your ears will thank you
Nikki Mcpeek
03.02.2013
Originally Posted by dripstep
Are you running phono out on the turntable, into a line in on your pc? if so, you need a preamp to boost the signal from your turntable.
i'm running phono from tt to djm350. then i'm running master output from mixer to i believe "line in" on pc card

is that good enough?

how about the shure whitelabel, i believe for practicing mixing/beatmatching and the sound quality is amazing but maybe they are garbage for conversion ?
Nikki Mcpeek
04.02.2013		i'm not completely satisfied with the sound that my mp3 conversions are coming out. they don't sound good enough.

this is what i've been using:

1. audacity
2. shure whitelabel stylus
3. my audiocard > asus xonar dg [ http://www.asus.com/Sound_Cards_and_...ters/Xonar_DG/ ]

after i record vinyl to mp3, i always pump the gain to 7+ on audacity because that is the volume that matches the volume of an mp3 from beatport. i don't do anything else on audacity. i don't really hear clicks so i dont rly fuck with the clickremovable feature and plus my vinyls are new.

if i was to guess what i can upgrade, i would say getting expensive stylus just for conversion.

thanks in advance for the help i'm going to need.
Brunilda Kora
28.03.2013		Mixers already have pre-amp - if you've got a half decent mixer you're fine.

Check your latency settings in your DAW. Set 'em nice and HIGH (that's right, HIGH) for recording audio.
Bethann Olortegui
28.03.2013		Reloop iPhono 2

http://www.reloop.com/reloop-iphono-2
Qiana Castellucci
26.03.2013
Originally Posted by cutflow
what pre-amp do you guys recommend for converting vinyl to mp3. that is less than $200 USD or is that too low of a budget?
Search for "Rega Fono Mini A2D USB Phono Stage"
Nikki Mcpeek
25.03.2013		what pre-amp do you guys recommend for converting vinyl to mp3. that is less than $200 USD or is that too low of a budget?
Emelina Chillson
26.02.2013		I have my technic 1200 mk2 running into my mackie d.4 and recording directly into audition. This allows me to disable the eq and record directly from the preamp. Before that tho, I used a bbe 200 preamp into an mbox mini. The less conversion the better so yes, stop using your djm350.
Annalisa Shogren
26.02.2013		Put a memory stick in your DJM, and press record on the top of the mixer. Watch this video and it'll show you how.
Brunilda Kora
14.02.2013		I converted a load of Breakbeat vinyl a few years back. I went TT > Mixer > On-board Soundcard (desktop).

Recorded it to .wav, and converted to 320kbps .mp3.

Sounds absolutely fine. I keep all of my tracks at 89Db, and pump up the volume on the mixer...
Reda Holdsworth
13.02.2013		I do mine straight to a digital recorder. I actually run it through a apogee mini me bypassing the preamp only using the analog to digital converter in the mini me. but everyone doesn't have a mini me laying around.

I archive it in 24/48 then convert it to wav or mp3
Delila Vandommelen
08.02.2013
Originally Posted by maxwelldub
convert to wav/aiff/flac instead. your ears will thank you
No, save as wav/aiff/flac along with the whole process. Not just instead of it all. Since using lossless has been standard to me for over 6 years, I guess I forgot to mention that
Jeromy Bana
07.02.2013		Clean your records first. I cant believe how dirty my record wash is after washing what look like even new records. the grime you pick up at the club on your fingers while mixing plus skin oil just gets into the them..

I'm using a 1210M5G With an Ortofon Night Club 2 with an Elliptical stylus. A Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi HD Sound Card with Phono preamp. record as Wave using Audacity at 24-bit with sampling rate of 96 kHz.

I'll usually then convert to Flac or AIFF to add better tag support and album art..
Ming Devis
06.02.2013		^ ease up.
Celestine Porebski
06.02.2013		You're using an extremely cheap consumer soundcard and wondering why your vinyl rips don't sound good? You can't be serious.
Carlton Saracina
05.02.2013
Originally Posted by bumtsch
Going through the mixer colors the sound and since the 350 is digital, that's two extra conversions you're going through (AD + DA), altering the sound further - you'd get an improvement by doing TT -> audio interface with a preamp.
Don't record too hot a signal, adjust your input gain to make sure the input stage isn't getting overloaded then add gain back in software.
I tried using Audacity's click removal, IMO you've made a good choice by avoiding it altogether.

What sample rate are you recording at ? It's possible ripping at 96k then resampling to 44.1 (or now, 48k) with a proper program might yield better results than just ripping straight to 44.1k, it made a noticeable difference for me.
Finally I find there is a slight loss of clarity in the top end (even before resampling) so I usually give a gentle boost to frequencies above 15k or so.

You could get an archival or hi-fi needle for ripping, but frankly since this is getting played at gigs I'd rather have my rips sound as if I were playing the real vinyl with my club needles - and the Whitelabel is supposedly very good at that. A hi-fi cart would take even further fiddling with the EQ to get it to sound livelier.

My 2c
convert to wav/aiff/flac instead. your ears will thank you
Delila Vandommelen
04.02.2013		Going through the mixer colors the sound and since the 350 is digital, that's two extra conversions you're going through (AD + DA), altering the sound further - you'd get an improvement by doing TT -> audio interface with a preamp.
Don't record too hot a signal, adjust your input gain to make sure the input stage isn't getting overloaded then add gain back in software.
I tried using Audacity's click removal, IMO you've made a good choice by avoiding it altogether.

What sample rate are you recording at ? It's possible ripping at 96k then resampling to 44.1 (or now, 48k) with a proper program might yield better results than just ripping straight to 44.1k, it made a noticeable difference for me.
Finally I find there is a slight loss of clarity in the top end (even before resampling) so I usually give a gentle boost to frequencies above 15k or so.

You could get an archival or hi-fi needle for ripping, but frankly since this is getting played at gigs I'd rather have my rips sound as if I were playing the real vinyl with my club needles - and the Whitelabel is supposedly very good at that. A hi-fi cart would take even further fiddling with the EQ to get it to sound livelier.

My 2c
Nikki Mcpeek
03.02.2013
Originally Posted by dripstep
Are you running phono out on the turntable, into a line in on your pc? if so, you need a preamp to boost the signal from your turntable.
i'm running phono from tt to djm350. then i'm running master output from mixer to i believe "line in" on pc card

is that good enough?

how about the shure whitelabel, i believe for practicing mixing/beatmatching and the sound quality is amazing but maybe they are garbage for conversion ?
Yong Aptekar
04.02.2013		Are you running phono out on the turntable, into a line in on your pc? if so, you need a preamp to boost the signal from your turntable.

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