CDJ 850 vs CDJ900 Comparison help
CDJ 850 vs CDJ900 Comparison help Posted on: 23.07.2013 by Suzanna Eisenbath Context:I'm comparing the two CDJ to upgrade my setup, I have a traktor setup which I've been using for a couple of years and I've played out in a couple of clubs. I can beatmatch on vinyl and using a controller. I don't need effects really as I'm producing my own tracks at the moment. I just want a simpler setup and tear down and to be as comfortable as possible when playing live. Questions What is Frame Accuracy and why do I want it?, I can guess but I want a guaranteed answer, I've looked on the internet to no avail. Are there pictures on the internet of the 900 wave display and the 850's wave display? I've seen the 800's irl and I've seen the others in youtube videos but not a direct comparison. I've read a lot of the threads here but there doesn't really seem to be a consensus. I really can't afford the 2000's. | |
| Alphonso Deitchman 23.07.2013 | The 850s do have HID support but not in Traktor. I would guess that by your " |
| Suzanna Eisenbath 23.07.2013 | I don't really use loops I know when my tracks are about to end. The 850's do have HID support, check the pioneer website, I know they didn't at one point though. I don't really need a link feature for |
| Alphonso Deitchman 23.07.2013 | The 850s do have HID support but not in Traktor. I would guess that by your " |
| Suzanna Eisenbath 23.07.2013 | I don't really use loops I know when my tracks are about to end. The 850's do have HID support, check the pioneer website, I know they didn't at one point though. I don't really need a link feature for |
| Alphonso Deitchman 23.07.2013 | The 850s do have HID support but not in Traktor. I would guess that by your " |
| Suzanna Eisenbath 23.07.2013 | I don't really use loops I know when my tracks are about to end. The 850's do have HID support, check the pioneer website, I know they didn't at one point though. I don't really need a link feature for |
| Alphonso Deitchman 23.07.2013 | The 850s do have HID support but not in Traktor. I would guess that by your " |
| Suzanna Eisenbath 23.07.2013 | I don't really use loops I know when my tracks are about to end. The 850's do have HID support, check the pioneer website, I know they didn't at one point though. I don't really need a link feature for |
| Alphonso Deitchman 23.07.2013 | The 850s do have HID support but not in Traktor. I would guess that by your " |
| Suzanna Eisenbath 23.07.2013 | I don't really use loops I know when my tracks are about to end. The 850's do have HID support, check the pioneer website, I know they didn't at one point though. I don't really need a link feature for |
| Suzanna Eisenbath 23.07.2013 | Context: I'm comparing the two CDJ to upgrade my setup, I have a traktor setup which I've been using for a couple of years and I've played out in a couple of clubs. I can beatmatch on vinyl and using a controller. I don't need effects really as I'm producing my own tracks at the moment. I just want a simpler setup and tear down and to be as comfortable as possible when playing live. Questions What is Frame Accuracy and why do I want it?, I can guess but I want a guaranteed answer, I've looked on the internet to no avail. Are there pictures on the internet of the 900 wave display and the 850's wave display? I've seen the 800's irl and I've seen the others in youtube videos but not a direct comparison. I've read a lot of the threads here but there doesn't really seem to be a consensus. I really can't afford the 2000's. |
| Alphonso Deitchman 30.07.2013 | DJMs have beat detection too, but mixers will not determine where the loop starts, only how long it is. |
| Malia Janise 29.07.2013 | Regarding quantized loops on the 900 - I watched some demos of the Xone DB4 and it looks like it has built-in beat detection. Is this so? Just trying to understand how important quantized loops are. |
| Suzanna Eisenbath 24.07.2013 | ah bugger. Yes that was the plan, I'm a real sucker for warranties and I've been stung by ebay before. |
| Alphonso Deitchman 23.07.2013 | The 850s do have HID support but not in Traktor. I would guess that by your " |
| Suzanna Eisenbath 23.07.2013 | I don't really use loops I know when my tracks are about to end. The 850's do have HID support, check the pioneer website, I know they didn't at one point though. I don't really need a link feature for |
| Alphonso Deitchman 23.07.2013 | 900s have quantized loops which are much easier to use, and the 900 has Traktor HID support which the 850s don't. If you're fine without these and the Link feature, getting a pair of used 850s is a good option. |
| Suzanna Eisenbath 23.07.2013 | @johney thanks, thats is a perfect answer. I believe that I'll probably go for the CDJ 850, it's likely if I ever want to upgrade I'll get the 2000 then. |
| Augustine Mitzen 23.07.2013 | CDJs divide the track into frames, one frame is 1/75th of a second or 13ms. IIRC. They are important for looping and for setting a cuepoint when in CDJ mode, when setting a loop (don't quote me on this) the beginning and end point of the loop snap to the closest frame available. For cuing, you pause the track, then you hear the CDJ stuttering at the point where you paused it. then you can get to the exact point using jog wheel, press CUE and you have your cue point. CDJ-850 has a 1 frame, while 900 has (according to this http://www.djresource.eu/Topics/story/25/) a half frame accuracy, meaning it's two times as precise. It really depends on if you want to use loops a lot. if so, the higher accuracy might come in handy, but for cuing, 1 frame is more than enough. (besides, only pussies use the CDJ mode ) hope i helped |
| Dedra Kreinbring 23.07.2013 | and slip mode? |
| Alphonso Deitchman 23.07.2013 | The main featuers on the 900 that are missing from the 850 are Quantize for your loops and Link so you can share a USB stick between two players. The 900 has more screen space for browsing tracks and the waveform looks a little better. 900: 850: |
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