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S4 -> VCI-100 Mapping Request
Posted on: 09.11.2010 by Karl Forde
Hi Guys,

Can everyone interested in DJTT creating a VCI-100 type mapping for the S4 please make their desire known by replying to this thread.

From what I've seen only Ean and the DJTT team can make this great piece of gear something legendary (like the VCI-100 became)

But they need to know we want it, so be sure to let them know by letting them know!

Thanks.
Karl Forde
10.11.2010
Originally Posted by photojojo
I understand your thoughts. I believe it could be better, but I've also found after a week of playing with it daily I'm getting more accustomed to where everything is on the controller. Still, things like having to choosing between sample decks or cues 5-8 kind of baffles me. It's not such a big deal because I have an X1 which compliments the S4 VERY well, but still.
I found a great beginners tutorial here:

http://blog.dubspot.com/traktor-kontrol-s4-part-1/

I am excitedly waiting for the next 2 videos highlighting other functions of the S4.
Leeanna Ayla
10.11.2010
Originally Posted by maxonemillionone
See. This is the bull shit I'm talking about.
Seriously? There's an awesome new controller out so people are going to talk about it. Your starting to sound like old school vinyl guys dissing controllerists.

Originally Posted by r1chardell1s
Um - With the VCI, there is a real sense of intelligent mapping. The fader FX, echo dub delay and slicing that Ean hard mapped gives me the best way to add FX and transition between different tempo songs. At the moment, despite having controls for each FX parameter, I can't do the same things that have become a staple of my DJing style.

So by 'clunky', I mean not as 'hands on' and 'easy, immediate results' providing as the VCI-100.

Does that make any sense???
I understand your thoughts. I believe it could be better, but I've also found after a week of playing with it daily I'm getting more accustomed to where everything is on the controller. Still, things like having to choosing between sample decks or cues 5-8 kind of baffles me. It's not such a big deal because I have an X1 which compliments the S4 VERY well, but still.
Karl Forde
10.11.2010
Originally Posted by maxonemillionone
See. This is the bull shit I'm talking about.
If you're believeing this is another S4 fanboy thread, that was not my intention.

I am keen to mod (if only via TSI) the device into something as good (but likely better) than the VCI-100 and wanted Ean to know that there are users like me who are interested in making this happen.

But just so I'm not wasting my time here talking about something which you weren't referring to, could you please elaborate on what you meant?
Karl Forde
10.11.2010
Originally Posted by photojojo
What do you mean by clunky?
Um - With the VCI, there is a real sense of intelligent mapping. The fader FX, echo dub delay and slicing that Ean hard mapped gives me the best way to add FX and transition between different tempo songs. At the moment, despite having controls for each FX parameter, I can't do the same things that have become a staple of my DJing style.

So by 'clunky', I mean not as 'hands on' and 'easy, immediate results' providing as the VCI-100.

Does that make any sense???
robin loo
10.11.2010
Originally Posted by dafe
..?
i believe he means this
Scarlett Saupp
09.11.2010
Originally Posted by maxonemillionone
See. This is the bull shit I'm talking about.
..?
robin loo
09.11.2010
Originally Posted by r1chardell1s
Hi Guys,

Can everyone interested in DJTT creating VCI-100 type mapping for Traktor please make their desire known by replying to this thread.

From what I've seen only Ean and the DJTT team can make this great piece of gear something legendary.

But they need to know we want it, so be sure to let them know by letting them know!

Thanks.
that's a good idea..

i'm really hoping NI gives ean the code. some better fx integration, customisable presets and a live fader fx mode :eek:
Leeanna Ayla
09.11.2010
Originally Posted by r1chardell1s
Cheers Jojo for the news.

So he's just waiting for the OK from NI then and isn't debating whether or not people would want this enough to be time well spent developing?

I started this thread to help gauge the communities desire for such a mapping. At the moment, I find the S4 a bit clunky and not as immediate as the VCI-100.

I was wondering if others felt the same.

What do you mean by clunky?
Karl Forde
09.11.2010		Hi Guys,

Can everyone interested in DJTT creating a VCI-100 type mapping for the S4 please make their desire known by replying to this thread.

From what I've seen only Ean and the DJTT team can make this great piece of gear something legendary (like the VCI-100 became)

But they need to know we want it, so be sure to let them know by letting them know!

Thanks.
Leeanna Ayla
22.11.2010		I like it. It's easier than the VCI to run four decks. I have an X1 mapped to control the sample decks and that makes it a little easier than using shift on the S4, but it's still a handful for me to remember what's going on where and still have my timing down sometimes.
Karl Forde
22.11.2010		Now We've Had A Bit Of Time With The S4 - What does everyone make of it in comparison to the VCI-100 workflow.

I'm still not gigging with my S4 because I don't have FX mode or hard mapped Slice and echo buttons.

I am waiting patiently to see if Ean and Co. create a new mapping for the S4
Karl Forde
10.11.2010
Originally Posted by photojojo
I understand your thoughts. I believe it could be better, but I've also found after a week of playing with it daily I'm getting more accustomed to where everything is on the controller. Still, things like having to choosing between sample decks or cues 5-8 kind of baffles me. It's not such a big deal because I have an X1 which compliments the S4 VERY well, but still.
I found a great beginners tutorial here:

http://blog.dubspot.com/traktor-kontrol-s4-part-1/

I am excitedly waiting for the next 2 videos highlighting other functions of the S4.
Leeanna Ayla
10.11.2010
Originally Posted by maxonemillionone
See. This is the bull shit I'm talking about.
Seriously? There's an awesome new controller out so people are going to talk about it. Your starting to sound like old school vinyl guys dissing controllerists.

Originally Posted by r1chardell1s
Um - With the VCI, there is a real sense of intelligent mapping. The fader FX, echo dub delay and slicing that Ean hard mapped gives me the best way to add FX and transition between different tempo songs. At the moment, despite having controls for each FX parameter, I can't do the same things that have become a staple of my DJing style.

So by 'clunky', I mean not as 'hands on' and 'easy, immediate results' providing as the VCI-100.

Does that make any sense???
I understand your thoughts. I believe it could be better, but I've also found after a week of playing with it daily I'm getting more accustomed to where everything is on the controller. Still, things like having to choosing between sample decks or cues 5-8 kind of baffles me. It's not such a big deal because I have an X1 which compliments the S4 VERY well, but still.
Karl Forde
10.11.2010
Originally Posted by maxonemillionone
See. This is the bull shit I'm talking about.
If you're believeing this is another S4 fanboy thread, that was not my intention.

I am keen to mod (if only via TSI) the device into something as good (but likely better) than the VCI-100 and wanted Ean to know that there are users like me who are interested in making this happen.

But just so I'm not wasting my time here talking about something which you weren't referring to, could you please elaborate on what you meant?
Karl Forde
10.11.2010
Originally Posted by photojojo
What do you mean by clunky?
Um - With the VCI, there is a real sense of intelligent mapping. The fader FX, echo dub delay and slicing that Ean hard mapped gives me the best way to add FX and transition between different tempo songs. At the moment, despite having controls for each FX parameter, I can't do the same things that have become a staple of my DJing style.

So by 'clunky', I mean not as 'hands on' and 'easy, immediate results' providing as the VCI-100.

Does that make any sense???
robin loo
10.11.2010
Originally Posted by dafe
..?
i believe he means this
Scarlett Saupp
09.11.2010
Originally Posted by maxonemillionone
See. This is the bull shit I'm talking about.
..?
Kristian Buneta
09.11.2010		See. This is the bull shit I'm talking about.
robin loo
09.11.2010
Originally Posted by r1chardell1s
Hi Guys,

Can everyone interested in DJTT creating VCI-100 type mapping for Traktor please make their desire known by replying to this thread.

From what I've seen only Ean and the DJTT team can make this great piece of gear something legendary.

But they need to know we want it, so be sure to let them know by letting them know!

Thanks.
that's a good idea..

i'm really hoping NI gives ean the code. some better fx integration, customisable presets and a live fader fx mode :eek:
Leeanna Ayla
09.11.2010
Originally Posted by r1chardell1s
Cheers Jojo for the news.

So he's just waiting for the OK from NI then and isn't debating whether or not people would want this enough to be time well spent developing?

I started this thread to help gauge the communities desire for such a mapping. At the moment, I find the S4 a bit clunky and not as immediate as the VCI-100.

I was wondering if others felt the same.

What do you mean by clunky?
Karl Forde
09.11.2010		Cheers Jojo for the news.

So he's just waiting for the OK from NI then and isn't debating whether or not people would want this enough to be time well spent developing?

I started this thread to help gauge the community's desire for such a mapping. At the moment, I find the S4 a bit clunky and not as immediate as the VCI-100.

I was wondering if others felt the same.
Leeanna Ayla
09.11.2010		It was said in the S4 article that Ean wanted to do a mapping for the S4, but he wanted to do it NHL mode and not midi. NI has to give him access to that so we'll see.

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