New Windows Tuning Tips at N.I.

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New Windows Tuning Tips at N.I.
Posted on: 17.12.2010 by nayit ruiz jaramillo
There are some brand new Windows Tuning Tips posted at the NI community .

http://www.native-instruments.com/fo...d.php?t=125245
Rolanda Bosiacki
20.12.2010
Originally Posted by photojojo
I don't believe he meant to use Traktor in the virtual environment.
Ah, misunderstood Afro's post. Well, his suggestion seems strange nevertheless. Other applications don't take away resources unless you elect to run them in the background.
Leeanna Ayla
20.12.2010
Originally Posted by AfroWhitie
when you want to use other apps just run them in a virtual machine.
Originally Posted by dumdidum
This is a horrible suggestion due to the higher latencies of audio and video in a VM. A guy on the VirtualBox community reports a latency of 70ms!!! Furthermore, most ASIO drivers are not going to work so one's best bet is probably ASIO4ALL.
I don't believe he meant to use Traktor in the virtual environment.
Rolanda Bosiacki
20.12.2010
Originally Posted by AfroWhitie
I highly recommend folks running windows start using virtualization - this way you can have a completely bare bones OS to run Traktor and when you want to use other apps just run them in a virtual machine.

Its free an easy - search for virtual PC...
This is a horrible suggestion due to the higher latencies of audio and video in a VM. A guy on the VirtualBox community reports a latency of 70ms!!! Furthermore, most ASIO drivers are not going to work so one's best bet is probably ASIO4ALL.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
18.12.2010
Originally Posted by IrishBlaggard
id say what most people including myself are mostly surprised about, is the lack customer support there receiving...

new product or not...

JUST FIX IT
Are you fucking serious. Im not NI. Im not support. I just posted that here so that people who dont go on the NI community could see it.

Wind your neck buddy.


Originally Posted by Patch
Great post, Karlos - this type of thing should be one of the first elements that a noob picks up!
Cheers Patch. Hope it helps.
nayit ruiz jaramillo
17.12.2010
There are some brand new Windows Tuning Tips posted at the NI community .

http://www.native-instruments.com/fo...d.php?t=125245
Lenny Calmes
20.12.2010
I just went & bought a macbook pro. Absoloutly no issues. My dv7 was a evening mare. I basically disabled eveything like that article says & noluck. I wanted a mac & this gave me the excuse. So happy i did as i have 0.0 issues now. I know what you guys are saying if i wasnt in the place to buy a new lappy i would have been f*ck&ed. If i had just bought the dv7 there is no way i would have considered a new lappy. They obviously only tested on mac. Night & day
Daisy Dotseth
20.12.2010
Thanks for paying attention photo

So to reiterate

@ Dumdi - from the perspective of keeping a 'clean' machine i believe its much better - you will be amazed at how many running apps and services you have on a windows machine after some time even though nothing is open.

Windows machines suffer from performance attrition over time just because of how easy the registry is to clog up with all sorts of crapware that you invariably pick up along the way. Using virtualization you can keep that potent 'fresh-format' beast of a machine to run Traktor on as your base.

You can then bring up your web surfing dog machine when you need it - when you are done put it back in its kennel and get back to enjoying your real machine again.
Rolanda Bosiacki
20.12.2010
Originally Posted by photojojo
I don't believe he meant to use Traktor in the virtual environment.
Ah, misunderstood Afro's post. Well, his suggestion seems strange nevertheless. Other applications don't take away resources unless you elect to run them in the background.
Loretta Lignell
20.12.2010
wait a tick, does this mean people are having issues with the S4 on windows? What kind of issues exactly?

This gets me a bit worried about purchasing one now.
Oswaldo Appeldorn
20.12.2010
well... buy a mac ... alright alright.. i'm out.. xD
Mac Fly
20.12.2010
People I have a 5 year old Windows machine and the controller works fine and I use it atleast twice a week in clubs. All you need is some know how and a bit of patience.
Leeanna Ayla
20.12.2010
Originally Posted by AfroWhitie
when you want to use other apps just run them in a virtual machine.
Originally Posted by dumdidum
This is a horrible suggestion due to the higher latencies of audio and video in a VM. A guy on the VirtualBox community reports a latency of 70ms!!! Furthermore, most ASIO drivers are not going to work so one's best bet is probably ASIO4ALL.
I don't believe he meant to use Traktor in the virtual environment.
Rolanda Bosiacki
20.12.2010
Originally Posted by AfroWhitie
I highly recommend folks running windows start using virtualization - this way you can have a completely bare bones OS to run Traktor and when you want to use other apps just run them in a virtual machine.

Its free an easy - search for virtual PC...
This is a horrible suggestion due to the higher latencies of audio and video in a VM. A guy on the VirtualBox community reports a latency of 70ms!!! Furthermore, most ASIO drivers are not going to work so one's best bet is probably ASIO4ALL.
Daisy Dotseth
19.12.2010
I highly recommend folks running windows start using virtualization - this way you can have a completely bare bones OS to run Traktor and when you want to use other apps just run them in a virtual machine.

Its free an easy - search for virtual PC...
Rolanda Bosiacki
18.12.2010
Don't buy bleeding-edge products if you want something that's as hassle-free and reliable as possible. It's completely standard for professionals not to use hard- and software for production before the product has matured a bit.

Obviously most DJs switched to digital within the last 2, 3 years or so. They might not have internalized the above statement yet. But I repeat: don't buy bleeding-edge technology for immediate production use. Manufacturers can claim whatever they want, but there are gonna be bugs after a new major release. I can give you example from every big player out there: IBM, Apple, Microsoft, Intel, Oracle, Red Hat, Dell, HP, OCZ, whatever--you just name it.
Hailey Westen
18.12.2010
my point is,
if they state there product works right out of the box then it should at least work like they say it does...
IF IT DONT, ITS FALSE ADVERTISING (which is illegal)

but on a side note, of course i have dedicated systems to run djing and tweeked

*the problem aint with the PCs, its with the S4 software*

*thats the other point i was making*


luckily for me, i dont need to depend on the S4, as i have many other systems to use.
and i expected there to be some bugs with it been a new proDuct etc

but i aint looking for who/what/where/when/why
***im looking for a FIX a simple FIX. thats all...***

NI need to take there finger out and sort it out...


ps. karlos i always enjoy your helpfull posts,
and i know you aint a Rep.
if you believe my post is personaly directed at you and have somehow taking offence, for that im sorry.

keep up the good work.
Onie Sarandos
18.12.2010
Sorry, but NI should not have marketed this package as "no hassle" and "plug and play" since that's obviously not the case. Those were some of NI's biggest marketing points, and they were largely false. This isn't directed at u personally Karlos, I understand that u aren't our personal NI rep. And I'm still keeping my S4 and am going to try to make it work. But that doesn't change the fact that its very, very frustrating in the meantime.
Hailey Westen
18.12.2010
Karlos Santos... relax man, whats with the swear words.

no need for it
nayit ruiz jaramillo
18.12.2010
Originally Posted by IrishBlaggard
id say what most people including myself are mostly surprised about, is the lack customer support there receiving...

new product or not...

JUST FIX IT
Are you fucking serious. Im not NI. Im not support. I just posted that here so that people who dont go on the NI community could see it.

Wind your neck buddy.


Originally Posted by Patch
Great post, Karlos - this type of thing should be one of the first elements that a noob picks up!
Cheers Patch. Hope it helps.
Brunilda Kora
18.12.2010
C'mon, guys. Tuning your PC is an absolute MUST for audio production and performance. Plug and Play is NOT GOOD ENOUGH. You HAVE to maximise the performance of the computer/laptop you are using.

That is why, if you do not have a dedicated machine, you should have multiple partitions. 1 that is maximised/optimised for performance, and 1 that you use for general internet, office apps, etc...

If you don't take this (DJ'ing) seriously enough to learn about PC optimisation, you'll always have performance issues.

Great post, Karlos - this type of thing should be one of the first elements that a noob picks up!
Hailey Westen
18.12.2010
id say what most people including myself are mostly surprised about, is the lack customer support there receiving...

new product or not...

JUST FIX IT
Teressa Madorin
18.12.2010
I know it sucks - but BUGS and BUG FIXES are 'standard' in the first months of releasing new hardware and software. It's not an excuse; that's just how it works. It's a risk you take buying a brand new product upon it's release.

If you thought it would be different this time, believe again. And remember that for next time, too.

(thought i'd toss in my two cents; I'm just surprised peeps are surprised...)
nayit ruiz jaramillo
17.12.2010
Yeah, im just pointing it out so people know its there.
Know what i mean? pfft.
Hailey Westen
17.12.2010
as clearly stated on the
"Introducing the Traktor Kontrol S4 DJ System" video

"the S4 contains everything that all modern dj's of all genres need to spin,
ALL IN A COMPLETE PACKAGE WITH NO SET UP HASSLE"
and later
"JUST PLUG IN AND PERFORM"

YEAH RIGHT

why should people have to go trough all them processes
(and most people have much higher required spec systems than what is said to be needed to run the S4)

basically disabling most of there laptop/PCs drivers/software/features etc.
just to MAYBE make the S4 software work is NOT GOOD ENOUGH...

the problem is with the S4 software/drivers...
whether or not its due to the audio sound card in the S4 or clashing with graphics cards or what ever them tips suggest.

ITS NOT GOOD ENOUGH

granted them tips will help some, but why bother.
when NI should simply release an update.


it's completely stupid that NI released the S4 with so many bugs in the windows software.
(most of which are minor and easily fixed,but many are not)

if you state the S4 is compatible with windows then make it work with windows...


JUST FIX THE PROBLEM NI



(not a rant just common sense)

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